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Normal 04-08-2023 06:32 AM

Great Opportunity
 
It’s a great time to check all your sprinkler filter heads, go through your system and monitor efficiency. I’m very grateful for a little highlight of dry weather to serve us all better.

ithos 04-08-2023 06:56 AM

This was the grandaddy of all droughts. CO2 around 300 ppm.

WHAT IS DROUGHT
Historical Drought
The 1930s “Dust Bowl” drought remains the most significant drought—meteorological and agricultural—in the United States’ historical record.

Historical Drought | Drought.gov.

sounding 04-08-2023 07:47 AM

Florida's "dry season" runs through May -- this is completely normal. There's nothing unusual about our current conditions -- except for lots of unnatural golf courses and manicured lawns.

Beyond The Wall 04-08-2023 07:47 AM

Watch out
 
Typically, April is a tough month for lawns and landscaping, as spring brings hotter weather but not much rain. On average, the dry season transitions to the rainy season in Orlando on May 27, or five days before the Atlantic hurricane season begins.

Derrick Weitlich, a lead meteorologist and climate program leader at the National Weather Service in Central Florida, said precipitation across the region so far in 2023 has ranged from 1 to 4 inches, which is as much as 6 inches below normal.

But, with global heating , ( Global Warming) 🤡 stirring the climate pot, weather has been wickedly fickle during the past half-year.

Hurricane Ian brought widespread flooding and record rainfall to Central Florida in late October

With historic amounts of rain and snow this year in California and unrelenting drying out across Florida’s peninsula, the drought map has reversed.
This is called weather!


The Gulf is bubbling right now! Expect numerous storms shortly.
Global heating is recycled Global warming. Hurricanes and drought have been around for a long time.

Average rain and snow is just that , an average of different extremes. Yes it has been dry, yes it does cause stress on everything mentioned.

Do what you can to protect your property investment.

Regorp 04-08-2023 08:03 AM

Drought
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nana2Teddy (Post 2205078)
Murphy’s Law. We left California last November for greener pastures (among other reasons), and lo and behold we ended up in a more severe drought than we left. Sigh.
I guess we won’t waste money having gutters installed.

Arrived in August and would pour every day, so gutters were first priority. Call Stipes to install by end of May or beware of flooded lanai.

Dusty_Star 04-08-2023 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2205123)
1. The "US Drought Monitor" is a climate alarmist outlet. Read how it operates. It uses "subjective methods" and "unnamed experts" to create scary maps.
2. Florida's dry season ends in May. Be patient.
3. Golf courses and lawns are NOT part of natural Florida.

Thank you!

Mazjaz 04-08-2023 08:58 AM

Over the 65 years of my life living in different parts of the country, been thru excessive droughts, excessive rain periods, excessive snows, little snow. The climate changes yearly, daily, and often. Always has always will. Not concerned one bit when you look at the history of the earth’s climate over thousands of years.

waterflower 04-08-2023 09:04 AM

If people only realize that water is only a few feet under their feet.. Learn how to be sovereign.

blueash 04-08-2023 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Boffin (Post 2205289)
FYI: Section 107 of the Copyright Act, which provides that fair use of a work “for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use, scholarship, or research)” is not an infringement of copyright.

Really not my point at all. Copyright law allows exactly what you stated. In such a case you should cite the source of what you are using, not present it as your own work. Secondly, this website, TOTV, has its own rule about using copyrighted material which is stricter than the prohibition on general use. There is no question the material you presented as your own was copyrighted. There is no question that you did not excerpt a small part of the work, rather you presented the entire body of someone else's work as your own without any attribution or credit to the real author.
And there is no question that you did not conform to the rules of this website regarding use of copyrighted material even if you may not have violated the Federal laws, which by the way, also say that fair use does not generally mean using the entire article.

From your link:
" If the use includes a large portion of the copyrighted work, fair use is less likely to be found;"

blueash 04-08-2023 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waterflower (Post 2205414)
If people only realize that water is only a few feet under their feet.. Learn how to be sovereign.

Please tell me what sovereign action we should be considering regarding water use in Florida as individuals. You might have a great solution for each of us to pursue.

Escape Artist 04-08-2023 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Boffin (Post 2205060)
With less than 2 inches of rain this year, Orlando is enduring its second driest stretch from Jan. 1 to April 5 since the late 1800s and also its hottest on record for that period.

Central Florida and much of the state’s peninsula are experiencing a widening severe drought, according to the U.S. Drought Monitor, a collaboration of universities and federal environmental agencies.

“When was the last time it rained?” said Fran Boettcher, a master gardener at the Orange County and University of Florida agricultural extension center. “Who can remember?”

In Orlando, the last measurable rain was 25 days ago, when just .15 inches barely wetted the ground, boosting the year’s rain to 1.89 inches, or about as much as a single, typical summer downpour can bring.

The Drought Monitor is updated weekly on Thursday mornings. The newest report shows 55 percent of Florida under severe drought now, up from 20 percent at the start of this year and less than 1 percent last year at this time.

Also on Thursday, Florida’s commissioner of agriculture, Wilton Simpson, warned of a potentially torrid brush and forest fire season in the making from Ocala south across a tinder-dry landscape. His department oversees the Florida Forest Service, the lead agency for wildfire responses.

He urged care with backyard barbecues and watchfulness for arson and lightning strikes. Burn bans have been declared for Brevard, Orange, Osceola and Seminole counties.

We are asking everyone to be very vigilant,” Simpson said. “We realize this already has been a very busy season.”

Typically, April is a tough month for lawns and landscaping, as spring brings hotter weather but not much rain. On average, the dry season transitions to the rainy season in Orlando on May 27, or five days before the Atlantic hurricane season begins.

Derrick Weitlich, a lead meteorologist and climate program leader at the National Weather Service in Central Florida, said precipitation across the region so far in 2023 has ranged from 1 to 4 inches, which is as much as 6 inches below normal.

But, with global heating stirring the climate pot, weather has been wickedly fickle during the past half-year.

Hurricane Ian brought widespread flooding and record rainfall to Central Florida in late September.

By early October, the Florida peninsula was entirely drought free, according to the U.S. Drought Monitor, while much of the West and especially California were dealing with brutally dry conditions.

With historic amounts of rain and snow this year in California and unrelenting drying out across Florida’s peninsula, the drought map has reversed.

California now has almost no severe drought and nearly all of Florida’s peninsula is swaddled in it.

The Drought Monitor Thursday cited reports in Central Florida of “numerous impacts of very dry conditions in the region including water holes drying up and areas experiencing extremely poor pasture conditions with supplemental feeding necessary to maintain livestock.”

For Central Florida residents watching their lawns broil into brown, Boettcher, the master gardener, suggested it might be time to consider switching to Florida native plants that can shrug off dry spells a lot better than thirsty grass.

“Lawns need a lot of water, fertilizer and pest control,” Boettcher said. “That’s a lot of time and a lot of pocket book.”

Your concerns will allayed starting this week which will usher in the rainy season early.

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-08-2023 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boffin (Post 2205289)
FYI: Section 107 of the Copyright Act, which provides that fair use of a work “for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use, scholarship, or research)” is not an infringement of copyright.

Yes you can use the entire work. But you still have to cite the source. If it's a paper thing and not an internet link, you have to specify the name of the book/newspaper/magazine, edition, date of copyright.

If you don't, then you're basically equating the article with your own writing, and THAT is copyright infringement.

In addition, bluash quoted the terms of service of THIS website, this forum, that you agree to obey when you sign up for an account:

Quote:

Copyright:

You agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you or by the Talk of the Villages. This includes text, content, art or photos. It is recommended to insert a link to an article that you would like to reference as opposed to inserting the copy into your thread or post.

jimjamuser 04-08-2023 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boffin (Post 2205060)
With less than 2 inches of rain this year, Orlando is enduring its second driest stretch from Jan. 1 to April 5 since the late 1800s and also its hottest on record for that period.

Central Florida and much of the state’s peninsula are experiencing a widening severe drought, according to the U.S. Drought Monitor, a collaboration of universities and federal environmental agencies.

“When was the last time it rained?” said Fran Boettcher, a master gardener at the Orange County and University of Florida agricultural extension center. “Who can remember?”

In Orlando, the last measurable rain was 25 days ago, when just .15 inches barely wetted the ground, boosting the year’s rain to 1.89 inches, or about as much as a single, typical summer downpour can bring.

The Drought Monitor is updated weekly on Thursday mornings. The newest report shows 55 percent of Florida under severe drought now, up from 20 percent at the start of this year and less than 1 percent last year at this time.

Also on Thursday, Florida’s commissioner of agriculture, Wilton Simpson, warned of a potentially torrid brush and forest fire season in the making from Ocala south across a tinder-dry landscape. His department oversees the Florida Forest Service, the lead agency for wildfire responses.

He urged care with backyard barbecues and watchfulness for arson and lightning strikes. Burn bans have been declared for Brevard, Orange, Osceola and Seminole counties.

We are asking everyone to be very vigilant,” Simpson said. “We realize this already has been a very busy season.”

Typically, April is a tough month for lawns and landscaping, as spring brings hotter weather but not much rain. On average, the dry season transitions to the rainy season in Orlando on May 27, or five days before the Atlantic hurricane season begins.

Derrick Weitlich, a lead meteorologist and climate program leader at the National Weather Service in Central Florida, said precipitation across the region so far in 2023 has ranged from 1 to 4 inches, which is as much as 6 inches below normal.

But, with global heating stirring the climate pot, weather has been wickedly fickle during the past half-year.

Hurricane Ian brought widespread flooding and record rainfall to Central Florida in late September.

By early October, the Florida peninsula was entirely drought free, according to the U.S. Drought Monitor, while much of the West and especially California were dealing with brutally dry conditions.

With historic amounts of rain and snow this year in California and unrelenting drying out across Florida’s peninsula, the drought map has reversed.

California now has almost no severe drought and nearly all of Florida’s peninsula is swaddled in it.

The Drought Monitor Thursday cited reports in Central Florida of “numerous impacts of very dry conditions in the region including water holes drying up and areas experiencing extremely poor pasture conditions with supplemental feeding necessary to maintain livestock.”

For Central Florida residents watching their lawns broil into brown, Boettcher, the master gardener, suggested it might be time to consider switching to Florida native plants that can shrug off dry spells a lot better than thirsty grass.

“Lawns need a lot of water, fertilizer and pest control,” Boettcher said. “That’s a lot of time and a lot of pocket book.”

Plus grass requires cutting and causes thousands of "have not" fast-driving lawn terrorists to invade the "haves" areas and produce class friction - all because overweight Village People are too lazy to cut their own lawns or buy a patio home. It is simple to plant podocarpus and viburnum hedges and use rock gardens and ground cover to reduce the plain, ugly grass to a bare minimum. Thus saving water and preventing the fertilizer runoff that is polluting the lakes of the Villages. This is NOT rocket science, folks - it is basic horticulture. Take a class or read a book and show some individuality. Just because the average, dim-witted Village person is dumb enough to pay for out-of-area MUSCLE to cut their lawns, does NOT mean that YOU have to fall into that TRAP!

jimjamuser 04-08-2023 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nana2Teddy (Post 2205078)
Murphy’s Law. We left California last November for greener pastures (among other reasons), and lo and behold we ended up in a more severe drought than we left. Sigh.
I guess we won’t waste money having gutters installed.

Cor D'alaine Idaho would have been a better choice for the summer 6 months.

jimjamuser 04-08-2023 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JP (Post 2205108)
Gee...weather changes, I'm shocked.

It is going to CHANGE by having increasing HEAT planet-wide for the next 30 years. I guess some would call that a change???????


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