Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2243230)

Record cold this winter in Florida would be weather. Global (world wide) temperature, look at that instead of picking some local weather phenomenon.

Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2243176)

Today 98 degrees
Thurs 97 degrees
Fri 98 degrees
Sat 98 degrees
Sun 97 degrees

Coupled with a low of 76 - 77 degrees each day. That's actual temp not heat index. The heat index is forecast to be 111 - 113 degrees. - enjoy.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2243191)

It's called central Florida in August, no different than 200 years ago

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2243237)

That the rate of warming has increased over the last 150 years is no longer being disputed, even by the deniers. I won't be proving it, I'm not a climatologist and the data is available to anyone interested in googling it.

Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2243244)

Same dates last year
Aug 9 - 90 degrees
Aug 10 - 95 degrees
Aug 11 - 93 degrees
Aug 12 - 93 degrees
Aug 13 - 93 degrees

Proof positive climate is warming:
Same 5 days this year Vs last year are projected to be +8.6 degrees higher.
I could not find the same 5 days data from 200 years ago.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2243245)

And you have proof that this is the ONLY 150 year period over the last 4 1/2 million years when the rate of warming has increased??? How about the periods where the rate of warming in the current 20,000 year cycle has slowed? How about the periods where the planet has cooled, even during the current warming cycle.

Again, we lack the data to conclude anything. The chicken little crowd thinks that extrapolating cherry picked data is "science" . Color me dubious.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2243032)

2 articles that try to spin a growing glacier as bad

Any questions?

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2243248)

Proof positive????? :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: Joking, right????

5 days this year compared to 5 days last year is "proof positive":1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Maybe you should submit that premise to the department of climatology at Harvard university as your doctoral thesis :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

(Some days I wonder why I even bother to educate some people)

PS: If you actually read a few pages back you'll find that the days 7/27-8/3 are 2.6 degrees cooler this year than last, as I had previously posted. But that also proves NOTHING

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2243251)

For some reason you seem to be stuck in the past. I really don't care about 4 1/2 million years ago and I don't care about 4 1/2 million years from now. I care about what is happening today, what may be affecting it, and what might be done before my nieces, nephews, and their children have to deal with it.

One graph of data that shows the increased rate of warming over the last 150 years begins 2,000 years ago. Not the 4 1/2 million years that has your attention but hardly cherry picking.

Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2243267)

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Yet you posted it as the lead into this thread to illustrate what - the climate is not warming ?

Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2243267)

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Yet you posted it as the lead into this thread to illustrate what - the climate is not warming ?

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2242345)

I generally watch WFTV (ABC affiliate) in the morning for local news and weather. I have no idea about other stations, but for the last 2 weeks they have been pushing harder than ever their narrative of high temperatures. This morning they claimed that we have substantially higher temps than normal, and used the terms "unprecedented", and "dangerous". What is insidious is their use of "heat index" almost to the exclusion of actual temperatures so they can put triple number digits on their map. No comparison of these "heat indices" with past values are given.

OK, actual high temps in the Villages 7/27-8/3----94,96,95,96,96,98,96 avg 95.86
Oh, wait a minute, that was LAST year
This year, same dates---89,90,96,97,91,95,93 avg 93.00 or 2.86 deg COOLER
This is what the weatherman claimed is "substantially higher than usual". So I'm calling BS on that.
I can only assume that the news media has access to more complete temperature data than those numbers I just pulled off the accuweather website, so clearly they are LYING TO US. Why???? Is there an agenda at work here?

Meanwhile, pretty much all of Central Florida is under a heat advisory, which the weatherman stated was unusual. True, there was no heat advisory this time last year when it was 2.86 degrees WARMER. So why is that?

Well, heat advisories are issued by the National Weather Service, a division of NOAA which falls under the Department of Commerce, lead by a cabinet level secretary.
So, here is what they are doing:
"Today, U.S. Commerce Secretary Gina M. Raimondo announced funding opportunities from NOAA's $2.96 billion in Infrastructure Law funds to address the climate crisis and strengthen coastal resilience and infrastructure. Over the next five years, NOAA’s targeted investments in the areas of habitat restoration, coastal resilience, and climate data and services will advance ongoing federal efforts toward building climate resilience.

Looks like they're getting plenty of media support for their "efforts"

Draw your own conclusions, but IMHO it appears that reporting temps as heat indices, issuing heat advisories when it is actually cooler than last year, and Good Morning America's lead story every day on the weather serves to push the continuing false narrative of "global warming", for which a few figure to profit immensely.

Addendum: This morning's GMA story is about a glacier they hunted for that is melting at an "unprecedented" rate. Probably true, but there are other glaciers that are growing. And in another 40,000 years those glaciers will grow 2 miles of ice over much of the Northern Hemisphere.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2243272)

First of all, you really should learn the difference between a "lead in" and a postscript. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Secondly, I posted it to emphasize that a one year comparison MEANS NOTHING, to EITHER side of the argument.

Geez, my bad, I thought the post was pretty clear

Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2243244)

Same dates last year
Aug 9 - 90 degrees
Aug 10 - 95 degrees
Aug 11 - 93 degrees
Aug 12 - 93 degrees
Aug 13 - 93 degrees

Proof positive climate is warming:
Same 5 days this year Vs last year are projected to be +8.6 degrees higher.
I could not find the same 5 days data from 200 years ago.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2243248)

Proof positive????? :1rotfl: Joking, right????

5 days this year compared to 5 days last year is "proof positive":1rotfl:

Maybe you should submit that premise to the department of climatology at Harvard university as your doctoral thesis :1rotfl:

(Some days I wonder why I even bother to educate some people)

PS: If you actually read a few pages back you'll find that the days 7/27-8/3 are 2.6 degrees cooler this year than last, as I had previously posted. But that also proves NOTHING

Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2243267)

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Yet you posted it as the lead into this thread to illustrate what - the climate is not warming ?

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2243272)

First of all, you really should learn the difference between a "lead in" and a postscript. :1rotfl:

Secondly, I posted it to emphasize that a one year comparison MEANS NOTHING, to EITHER side of the argument.

Geez, my bad, I thought the post was pretty clear

Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2243267)

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What is a postscript in a letter?

A postscript is a brief message appended to the end of a letter (following the signature) or other text. A postscript is usually introduced by the letters P.S.

No PS. Centered mid post. Oh and look an addendum at the end. :a20:

Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2243277)

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THIS is the thread. You referenced , by quoting, my response that included a POSTSCRIPT, clearly highlighted. Then you must have some sort of cognitive break by responding to my OP. I understand your confusion.

So to answer the question you intended, rather than the nonsense you actually posted, I made the OP not to dispute that we are currently in a warming cycle, but to question whether human activity has anything to do with it, while pointing out the incredibly obvious push of the narrative every day.

Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2243267)

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Yet you posted it as the lead into this thread to illustrate what - the climate is not warming ?

Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2243277)

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Speaking of cognitive breakdowns I had no question. I simply posted a statement of fact. Last year Aug 9 -13 was lower in temp than this year's forecast for the same days. chilout I understand one of the conditions of delusion is cabin fever. Ah summer in mid Florida.