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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 2242631)

This is the best thing I've ever heard on the subject.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSrjAXK5pGw

By the way, you wouldn't believe how much climate change is pushed on news programs in Europe. Almost every news program starts out with a report on how hot it is.

The guy is a well known grifter. Makes a great living spreading a narrative that a certain segment of the US is happy believe and donate towards. He even states that fossil fuels are good for the environment.

Farmers are having issues all over Europe that have not been seen in their lifetime due to climate change. Why would that not be the top news story? Food is pretty important to our survival in my opinion.

Climate change, global warming, are these real and is it caused by man, that is the real question and until there is a definite answer there will be camps on both sides of this issue. Now the believers who claim man is responsible for the abnormal weather patterns say it due to the burning of fossil fuels. I personally am less interested in the weather changes than I am in the pollution we are pumping into the air we breathe. I did a job 30 years ago, in the mountains overlooking the valley in California, and the sky was a dirty yellow. When I was told it was pollution, I thought are we idiots we are living in our own filth. Look we’re poisoning our air, rivers and soil on the pursuit of profits, this is got to stop. I’m up there in age and won’t be around much longer, but one day this is going to come back to bite humans in the a**, hopefully this will be address before it is too late.

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Originally Posted by MrChip72 (Post 2242658)

The guy is a well known grifter. Makes a great living spreading a narrative that a certain segment of the US is happy believe and donate towards. He even states that fossil fuels are good for the environment.

Farmers are having issues all over Europe that have not been seen in their lifetime due to climate change. Why would that not be the top news story? Food is pretty important to our survival in my opinion.

Wrong, wrong, WRONG!

Farmers in Europe are having issues with a month or two of unusually hot WEATHER. Weather is NOT CLIMATE CHANGE. Collect 2 or 3 thousand years of similar data and then you can claim "climate change".

The secret to a happy life? Don’t watch the news.

They are going to give you the news they want you to hear and not the real news. Mainstream news is their narrative news. Welcome to the misinformed world.

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Originally Posted by Andyb (Post 2242671)

They are going to give you the news they want you to hear and not the real news. Mainstream news is their narrative news. Welcome to the misinformed world.

Yes, and same TV station in my OP just seconds ago referring to today's high of 94 in TV in August: "The extreme heat continues". Of course they put up the heat indices instead.

94 in Central Florida is "extreme"? Unusual in August????
We should change his opening line to "The extreme BS continues"

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2242388)

"It's not the heat, it's the humidity."

It's actually both. I've been in 100+ temps in Az where the humidity was low - it felt pretty comfortable. In Md where we get 80-90 degree temps but a high humidity it felt terrible. Here in Fl it is usually somewhere in between.

Have you found a site that gives both temperature and humidity measurements for each day in 2021, 2022, and 2023? Post the link and I'll get the heat index numbers for late July and early August so we can compare apples to apples.

But you can't ignore the value of hysteria either. I remember not so long ago when we heard forecasts of hurricanes about to hit or tropical storms about to become hurricanes. Now we hear forecasts of tropical disturbances that might become tropical depressions that might become tropical storms that might become hurricanes that might come close to the States. No one really cares if it's warm again today but if they can announce the EXTREMELY HEAT DANGER then they get viewers and can sell advertising.

I was raised in 100* temps in CA but very low humidity and the heat didn’t bother me like here with the humidity. But I love the humidity, not fond of CA, left at 60 and won’t return! You’re right, now any rainstorm near Florida is “going to be a tropical storm & then a hurricane”. The sky is falling…. It’s like they WANT a cat 5 to hit so they have something to talk about!! We’re fortunate that we haven’t had anything major hit but that’s also the reason why I agreed to moving to Florida but only inland and not on the coast! Who knows what the next couple of months will bring but, no matter what it is, they will be wanting to put more $$$ into trying to change global warming…🙄🙄

Thank you for this. ABC is the worst… They offer The View with Whoppi, Joy, et el. Should tell you all you need to know. It’s freakin Summer!!! John Kerry working overtime with Greta to push their woke agenda

Where did you get your degree in climatology?

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Originally Posted by Gunny2403 (Post 2242684)

So true! And don't even mention "The View". I couldn't put together a similar collection of ignorant, stupid, idiotic, moronic witches if I tried. Especially that Joyce/Joy/whatever and her "climate change da-nye-ah" crap. Somebody should give her an extended vacation so she can go back and complete 3rd grade.

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2242393)

But, but, but...... The narrative they are cramming down your throat is that global warming is due to human activity specifically burning fossil fuels. But we have been warming (in the current cycle) for 20,000 years.

I have issued this challenge numerous times to the acolytes of those who would profit from monies spent on "climate change": What make and model of SUV did Fred Flintstone drive???

There are many causes of global warming and man is one. The only thing we can do anything about is man’s contribution. If we do nothing and it is true the future is bleak if we do nothing and it is false we have left the world in a better place and spent some money. I choose for doing something as do 95% of climatologists.

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Originally Posted by kansasr (Post 2242347)

Your grandchildren are just going to love the world we're leaving for them.

Yeah and it has nothing to do with climate...

Weather Channel doing the same thing. Talking points are out. If there is any rise in temps it has more to do with all the building in cities and roadways etc. Proven that the cities get hotter and they retain temps longer than rural areas. Sometimes they will even talk about it. Oops, not part of today's narrative.

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Originally Posted by crash (Post 2242689)

Correct, there are many causes of our current 70-120,000 year cycles of glaciation and interglacial thaws that have been going on for the last 4 1/2 million years of our current ICE AGE. But it is hard to blame man for that. The issue is whether or not we are accelerating the process for the last 100 years or so by burning fossil fuels.

The last 4 1/2 million years have been driven by the power of the sun, changes in Earth's orbit and Earth's axis. I have doubts as to how much the last 100+ years of human activity is adding to that.

As to that 95% number, it has been debunked over and over again. But still, a majority of climatologists are touting the false narrative. Of course they are. Try getting a government grant for a research project that will show global warming has nothing to do with human activity. Rotsa ruck. Try getting tenure. Try getting published. So if you are a climatologist that wants to feed his family, you tout the party line.

And spent "some money"???? $100 TRILLION is not "some money", it is global bankruptcy for the purpose of funneling huge sums into the hands of a very few. I would have thought all those with woke leanings would be against that, but alas, the media and university bombardment of the false climate change narrative have brainwashed many.

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2242345)

I generally watch WFTV (ABC affiliate) in the morning for local news and weather. I have no idea about other stations, but for the last 2 weeks they have been pushing harder than ever their narrative of high temperatures. This morning they claimed that we have substantially higher temps than normal, and used the terms "unprecedented", and "dangerous". What is insidious is their use of "heat index" almost to the exclusion of actual temperatures so they can put triple number digits on their map. No comparison of these "heat indices" with past values are given.

OK, actual high temps in the Villages 7/27-8/3----94,96,95,96,96,98,96 avg 95.86
Oh, wait a minute, that was LAST year
This year, same dates---89,90,96,97,91,95,93 avg 93.00 or 2.86 deg COOLER
This is what the weatherman claimed is "substantially higher than usual". So I'm calling BS on that.
I can only assume that the news media has access to more complete temperature data than those numbers I just pulled off the accuweather website, so clearly they are LYING TO US. Why???? Is there an agenda at work here?

Meanwhile, pretty much all of Central Florida is under a heat advisory, which the weatherman stated was unusual. True, there was no heat advisory this time last year when it was 2.86 degrees WARMER. So why is that?

Well, heat advisories are issued by the National Weather Service, a division of NOAA which falls under the Department of Commerce, lead by a cabinet level secretary.
So, here is what they are doing:
"Today, U.S. Commerce Secretary Gina M. Raimondo announced funding opportunities from NOAA's $2.96 billion in Infrastructure Law funds to address the climate crisis and strengthen coastal resilience and infrastructure. Over the next five years, NOAA’s targeted investments in the areas of habitat restoration, coastal resilience, and climate data and services will advance ongoing federal efforts toward building climate resilience.

Looks like they're getting plenty of media support for their "efforts"

Draw your own conclusions, but IMHO it appears that reporting temps as heat indices, issuing heat advisories when it is actually cooler than last year, and Good Morning America's lead story every day on the weather serves to push the continuing false narrative of "global warming", for which a few figure to profit immensely.

Addendum: This morning's GMA story is about a glacier they hunted for that is melting at an "unprecedented" rate. Probably true, but there are other glaciers that are growing. And in another 40,000 years those glaciers will grow 2 miles of ice over much of the Northern Hemisphere.

I hear you. This isn’t a government plot. It’s a newscast plot. All of these TV news stations base their charge for advertising on how many people are watching. Most TV news stations, have taken to doing whatever they can to keep people watching. Decades ago, the weather report was boring. Now, the stations do whatever they can to keep people watching instead of changing the channel or going to the kitchen or something. The best way they have found is by presenting the weather report in an alarmist way and warning you throughout the news that you won’t want to miss this. Garbage. They are presenting the unlikely worst it could be as if people should worry about it. Thus the heat index. It’s so much more impressive than just the temperature because it’s so much higher. In the north, they also do it with the Wind Chill Factor. It looks so much scarier, so you keep watching through the next commercial to find out what horrible thing to expect. Alarmist! Remember that word. Don’t believe TV weather reports. I use Weather Underground online. It just takes a minute, and it’s in line with the national report combined with lots of local weather gathering stations. Try it. It’s very different from what you’ll see on TV, but more accurate. Imagine! You’ve been wasting maybe half an hour a day on TV weather! You don’t need to do that. TV weather also tries to keep people watching by using attractive weather women in sexy dresses and high heels. That’s for you, guys, and they lay look great, but the way they are being used is disgusting. Or they use weather men who crack jokes. Keep ‘em laughing. Yech! How often to you see serious, plain weather people these days? It isn’t common.

I don’t watch TV news or TV news/entertainment mixtures like Good Morning America at all (and I don’t get news from sites like Facebook, either). I thus save myself hours a day to use on other things—like writing this. I find much of the so-called news on TV to be alarmist and lacking in context. If there isn’t video available, it isn’t covered because it’s boring. Someone’s speech isn’t generally covered unless the person makes a gaffe or trips and falls. That’s when it becomes “newsworthy”. TV news is trying to make you a news junky—an addict. And the News level is aimed at the lowest common denominator of the audience. Do you want to be that dumb and gullible? Just say no!