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jimjamuser 11-13-2023 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2273862)
Believe what you want. Fact is no one here is going to do anything about it one way or the other, other than lip service, that is. Just keep your El Nino (or El Nina) off my lawn.

Yes, you can help to stop Global Warming. Simply buy an E-bike, an E-golf cart, an E-car, or an E-truck. That will put less CO2 into the upper atmosphere and lessen the HEAT reflection.

jimjamuser 11-13-2023 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PugMom (Post 2273880)
i wouldn't loose any sleep over it. the Earth has been here for how long? nothing dramatic to have temp changes, it's just weather

Scientists disagree !!!!!!

jimjamuser 11-13-2023 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2273893)
Why? They're not concerned that their own generation is living with dying coral beds, dying ecosystem, all caused by human intervention. They don't care that China has no more room for garbage imported from the USA, so we have to add more trash heaps to our own country, and Georgia doesn't have more room for ours.

They don't care that droughts and hurricanes and floods and unseasonable freezes in warm climates have caused foods of all types to go up in price. They don't care that there's a systematic push to raze land previously occupied by bees and butterflies for drilling and "the wall", which means less pollination, which means either more unhealthy fertilizers polluting our waters or entering our bloodstreams (or both).

The only thing they care about is which political party to blame it on. They accept zero responsibility for their own personal contribution to the problem and will reject the existence of the problem entirely, if it turns out "their side" is to blame.

Good thought-provoking post.

jimjamuser 11-13-2023 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by kkingston57 (Post 2274055)
Weather is local and snow is more contingent on moisture than the temperature

The higher the temperature the more water vapor that AIR can hold.

OrangeBlossomBaby 11-13-2023 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2274338)
Yes, you can help to stop Global Warming. Simply buy an E-bike, an E-golf cart, an E-car, or an E-truck. That will put less CO2 into the upper atmosphere and lessen the HEAT reflection.

It just isn't that simple. Arkansas will now be hosting Exxon-Mobile's first foray into the United States with mining lithium. The process involves separating the lithium from saltwater. In Arkansas. A landlocked state. There's no natural saltwater, they have to drill over 10,000 feet to get to it. The process also results in pollution to area freshwater sources. Which means - a whole lot of new employees to do the drilling, and a whole lot of new employees to dig new plots in cemeteries to bury all the people who will die from poisoned water sources.

And that's because - there is no place to PUT the polluted water, they don't have the kinds of treatment plants necessary to clean the toxic waste produced by the lithium drilling operation.

No point in reducing global warming that will happen eventually whether we contribute to it or not, if everyone is dead before it ever gets that far.

There's lots of lithium in Arkansas. So there's going to be lots of drilling. And lots of displaced wildlife who have to live somewhere, but won't be living near the wells. The country will be less reliant on foreign sources for lithium - which is where you get those batteries for your electric vehicles. So we pollute the land to get the lithium that makes the batteries we use in our electric cars that we drive to prevent pollution from oil drilling.

See what I mean? It's not that simple.

jimjamuser 11-13-2023 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2274093)
"Man" cannot profit unless there are those that are buying his(HER) product. I doubt there are very many folks out there that wish to do away with planes, trains and automobiles, environmental control. artificial light and communication. I believe that most folks enjoy their food cooked.

The only SACRIFICES that need to be made are for 30 % of new car, truck, and golf cart buyers to purchase E-vehicles instead of the polluting internal combustion vehicles.

jimjamuser 11-13-2023 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2274083)
Total dribble

Is that worse than double dribble in basketball?

jimjamuser 11-13-2023 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ptmcbriz (Post 2274156)
Global warming is temperature averages over the past several hundred years along with measurements from ice cores. It’s an average. Overall our planet is increasing. Being an average means there will be ebb and flows of seasonal temps higher and lower during seasons, but when you factor all the temps globally over time the data is unmistakable. The average is increasing. You can’t judge global warming by using one specific geographical location during one season. That’s not an average over hundreds of years.

The last 8 years are the warmest in recorded history. Definitely man-made !!!!!!

JMintzer 11-13-2023 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2274338)
Yes, you can help to stop Global Warming. Simply buy an E-bike, an E-golf cart, an E-car, or an E-truck. That will put less CO2 into the upper atmosphere and lessen the HEAT reflection.

Remind me... What brand of E-bike, E-golf cart, E-car/truck did you purchase?

JMintzer 11-13-2023 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2274350)
The last 8 years are the warmest in recorded history. Definitely man-made !!!!!!

Yes, because man has been around for only 8 years...

JMintzer 11-13-2023 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2274342)
The higher the temperature the more water vapor that AIR can hold.

Which increases the temp more than CO2 does...

margaretmattson 11-13-2023 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2274342)
The higher the temperature the more water vapor that AIR can hold.

It is unusual to have record breaking snowfall in early November. I believe the El Niño effect is responsible. Record breaking precipitation is being seen throughout the world. Some major cities have flooded due to an abundance of rain. Buckle up your seat belts! Most likely, we are going to see some crazy weather this year.

As a side note, some posters stated precipitation is not an element of climate. It most definitely is! The rain forest and arid climates are perfect examples.

Pairadocs 11-13-2023 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Randall55 (Post 2273787)
It's early in the season, but Anchorage Alaska has already seen record breaking amounts of snowfall. Some areas, surrounding the city, accumulated two feet within two days. A snow emergency has been declared. Is El Niño the cause? Do you think the scientists who support the theory of global warming are staring at their monitors in disbelief? Strange thing, I did not see this reported on the news as often as this summer's record breaking heat. Any thoughts on why?

Well.... to start with, could it be a "follow the money" thing... do you think it's possible that many have made a great deal of money by engaging in research projects that support global warming ? There are so many ways to produce convincing "research", the average man on the street (whoever that is) unless they completed an earned PhD with a research requirement, have no idea how easy it is to set up a study to "prove" whatever you wish to prove. Choose your variables carefully, ignore any that might counter indicate, set your level of error carefully, chose your experimental groups carefully.. it is very easy when you know the structure, but, I doubt very much that any climate scientists would engage in such "adjusted" study formats, just like our pharmaceutical manufacturers would never construct trials and studies to produce favorable results for a new medicine or vaccine, right ?

margaretmattson 11-13-2023 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 2274383)
Well.... to start with, could it be a "follow the money" thing... do you think it's possible that many have made a great deal of money by engaging in research projects that support global warming ? There are so many ways to produce convincing "research", the average man on the street (whoever that is) unless they completed an earned PhD with a research requirement, have no idea how easy it is to set up a study to "prove" whatever you wish to prove. Choose your variables carefully, ignore any that might counter indicate, set your level of error carefully, chose your experimental groups carefully.. it is very easy when you know the structure, but, I doubt very much that any climate scientists would engage in such "adjusted" study formats, just like our pharmaceutical manufacturers would never construct trials and studies to produce favorable results for a new medicine or vaccine, right ?

Probably true. For some, money is a motivating factor.

dhdallas 11-14-2023 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Randall55 (Post 2273787)
It's early in the season, but Anchorage Alaska has already seen record breaking amounts of snowfall. Some areas, surrounding the city, accumulated two feet within two days. A snow emergency has been declared. Is El Niño the cause? Do you think the scientists who support the theory of global warming are staring at their monitors in disbelief? Strange thing, I did not see this reported on the news as often as this summer's record breaking heat. Any thoughts on why?

Did you know that commercial snow crab fishing in the Bering Sea off Alaska has been banned for the second straight year? There has been a huge decline from 8 billion down to 1 billion in the crab population due to the warming waters which increase the crab's metabolism and cause them to starve. The crab season has never been canceled before.

Global warming/climate change statistics are the result of averaging temperatures over an entire year. Yes, some winters may be colder than others but over a period of years, decades and centuries the earth's temperatures have been steadily rising. To deny scientific facts and to do nothing to combat the warming trend shows total disregard and selfishness for the generations to follow.


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