Originally Posted by oldtimes (Post 2263100)

But we could have prevented the tornado if we had gone out and bought all new energy efficient appliances.

Originally Posted by Wondering (Post 2263107)

I think it's called Climate Change. Global warming will cause changes in the yearly climate. Do some legitimate fact checking and research and stop believing the propaganda noise networks!

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2263046)

You don't seem to be paying attention. Perhaps I used too many words.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2263147)

After all, 50,000 years ago we were Neanderthals and Cro-Magnons.

Originally Posted by donfey (Post 2263317)

We used to call that WEATHER.
The hottest temperature EVER recorded in Florida was 109 on June 29, 1931 in Monticello. Must have been plenty of cow flatulence back then.

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2263338)

That's because calling it "Global Warming" wasn't convincing enough...

Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2262810)

This graph uses as a zero point the temperature average over a 30 year period from 1991 to 2020. Of course this was a period when temps were already moving upward as you can see looking at how no years prior to 2002 were warmer than that average. So when a person who regularly posts that we are in a cooling trend selectively uses a single hot year as a baseline, know you are being manipulated and lied to.

Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2262810)

This graph uses as a zero point the temperature average over a 30 year period from 1991 to 2020. Of course this was a period when temps were already moving upward as you can see looking at how no years prior to 2002 were warmer than that average. So when a person who regularly posts that we are in a cooling trend selectively uses a single hot year as a baseline, know you are being manipulated and lied to.

Originally Posted by Warcats (Post 2263380)

Those that deny are uneducated in the sciences or even worse religious aieeee

Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2262810)

This graph uses as a zero point the temperature average over a 30 year period from 1991 to 2020. Of course this was a period when temps were already moving upward as you can see looking at how no years prior to 2002 were warmer than that average. So when a person who regularly posts that we are in a cooling trend selectively uses a single hot year as a baseline, know you are being manipulated and lied to.

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2263277)

I would welcome a discussion with a skeptic. I enjoyed pondering why sea levels rose so quickly in the past compared to today. It was interesting to research sea level change in the Med and to think about how it could appear that the levels were 20ft higher on one side of the island in Roman times while also being 13ft *lower* on the other side. Asking questions about the data and sincerely looking for answers is interesting.

What is more common on this topic are deniers. Some are simply say "there ain't no climate change." Others point to gross estimations of the climate millions of years ago to ignore instrumented measurements from the last 100 years. And others attempt to mislead by posting data from denier websites or cherry-picking data until a graph looks the way they want or discussing the wardrobe choices of coral.

Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2262810)

this graph uses as a zero point the temperature average over a 30 year period from 1991 to 2020. Of course this was a period when temps were already moving upward as you can see looking at how no years prior to 2002 were warmer than that average. So when a person who regularly posts that we are in a cooling trend selectively uses a single hot year as a baseline, know you are being manipulated and lied to.

Originally Posted by cjrjck (Post 2263395)

Good points but I am still confused why it matters that some people don't believe in climate change. How is it important what someone else thinks or believes?

Originally Posted by The Chipster (Post 2263321)

I have learned NOT to use reason with climate deniers. No matter what reliable, scientific, reasonable data you share with them, they are in a cult and will not believe anything except for their conspiracy-laden anti-government/media beliefs. Better to just nod your head and smile.

Note to OP: this is not political.

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2263282)

When a team has had its ups and downs over many seasons then you expect that team to win a few and lose a few this season as well. If you start to notice that the team is now winning a lot more than it is losing and that this started when Tom Brady was added then it would be foolish not to take notice of that. Maybe it isn't Brady, maybe it is Gronkoski, but something out of the ordinary is happening.