Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2263051)

Yes, seas levels are rising. And yes, they will continue to rise. And yes, there will be more flooding. And yes, in about 50,-60,000 years half of Florida will be underwater. AS HAS BEEN THE CASE OVER A DOZEN TIMES IN THE LAST 4.5 MILLION YEARS. However, all of that has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with human activity. THAT is the science, THAT is the data, and yet there are still deniers. I understand the profit motives of those power brokers that are pushing the false narrative, I even understand the media complicity since they are chasing ratings. I even understand the uber-hypocrites that want to dictate a lifestyle to everyone else while they do as they please. What I fail to understand is how anyone can buy into this garbage. I do understand to a small degree our young people who buy this crap hook, line and sinker, since they are ignorant, inexperienced, yearn to find they own identity and want to join "a cause". But mature people with half a brain? I just don't get it.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2262893)

A 20 foot difference in ocean level is not created by land mass shifts, we are talking about global temperatures and the amount of water tied up in polar ice caps. I can't imagine continental drift plays a major role.

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2263071)

Since your facts don't match those from the climatologists it seems you must have done tour own research.

Originally Posted by Whitley (Post 2263074)

Sincere question. IF; Matter can neither be created nor destroyed; all of the H2O that has ever existed on planet Earth currently exists; Fill a glass of water and ice cubes to the brim and as the ice melts going from solid to liquid the level remains the same; then -Must we worry about rising seas from melting glaciers? Perhaps the melting of frozen snow/ice that covers land would lead to sea level rise. Does melting glaciers floating in the seas contribute to significant water level rise?

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2262935)

Kent Island is sinking...

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2262828)

That's fine----SO WHAT??????

8 year cooling trend, 30 year warming trend, 150 years of warming----SO WHAT. It means nothing in the last 4.5 million years of our current ICE AGE marked by 70-120,000 years of alternating periods of glaciation and interglacial thaws. Our current warming trend started about 19,000 years ago and will probably continue for the next 25-30,000 years. At the peak of warming, most of Florida will be gone and our coastal cities will be under 200-400 feet of water, AS IT HAS BEEN AT LEAST A DOZEN TIMES OVER THOSE 4.5 MILLION YEARS. And guess what? Fifty thousand year or so later, NYC will once again be covered by 2 miles of ice, AS IT HAS BEEN AT LEAST A DOZEN TIMES OVER THOSE 4.5 MILLION YEARS. And now for the harsh reality---none of that was influenced by any human (or humanoid) activity. NONE OF IT.

So, the climate change alarmists can go on spouting their garbage. Those few in the position to profit from all the hype will make $billions if not $trillions. The lemmings will march off and buy their EVs and put solar panels on their roofs. The media will continue to push this false narrative---and guess what again---none of it will make the slightest difference. We simply do not have the technology to challenge the power of the sun, Earth's orbit and precession of our axis.

And finally, as a promise to one who is constantly sounding the imminent disaster alarm, here is a picture. It was taken last month off the Isle of Capri in the Mediterranean (well actually, the Gulf of Naples) at high tide. The dark line along the cliff about 15-20 feet ABOVE the water (above the boat on the left, sorry about the resolution but it was hazy) is erosion from where the sea level was 2,000 years ago when Ceasar Augustus ruled. So much for ocean levels rising in the last 2,000 years, and at the current rate of rise we have quite a long time just to get back to the level of Roman times. Yes, we'll get there and hundreds of feet more, but not in the next decades, but in many millennia.

Originally Posted by mntlblok (Post 2263080)

Well, that's just great. Can't resist a possibly interesting rabbit hole, so wasted some googling time down this one. That "sinking" thing coulda been *really* interesting to learn about, but all I got was this article where "sinking" is merely a euphemism for alarmist levels of sea level rise in a ridiculously short period of time. RISING TIDES – Stevenson Villager

And *now* learn that "Bill" isn't even currently living in Stevenson! :-) Also, it appears that I still have a bit to figure out about those "signature" listings of former places residence. Guess the lower the listing, the more recent - at least sometimes. I do now know that Victor, NY, apparently has nothing to do with any Kent Island. :-)

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2263076)

Which climatologists are they??? The ones who work for the government whose jobs depend on them pushing the false narrative???? Or the ones at the Universities whose tenure, publications and grants are denied if the don't push this false agenda. Try seeing what retired climatologists and those that independent of outside influences have to say. Oh, I forgot, they are the ones that the climate change advocates have labelled "deniers" and "nut jobs".

Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2262810)

This graph uses as a zero point the temperature average over a 30 year period from 1991 to 2020. Of course this was a period when temps were already moving upward as you can see looking at how no years prior to 2002 were warmer than that average. So when a person who regularly posts that we are in a cooling trend selectively uses a single hot year as a baseline, know you are being manipulated and lied to.

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2263017)

You deny that man can impact climate change but somehow that doesn't make you a denier?

India and China feel that fighting poor living conditions and famine is more important right now. This was the subject of a long thread about a year ago. As we make progress towards greener power generation and transportation, they will be able to make use of it to solve their humanitarian problems while decreasing their pollution problems.