Talk of The Villages Florida

Talk of The Villages Florida (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/)
-   Weather Talk (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/weather-talk-515/)
-   -   Hurricane "Experts" backing off on extreme seasonal outlook (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/weather-talk-515/hurricane-experts-backing-off-extreme-seasonal-outlook-352695/)

golfing eagles 09-06-2024 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2367919)
The comparison is to look at the graph of temperature worldwide for the last 50 years (from 1974) to today. You will find that the graph INCREASES big time from 1994 til today. It is very similar to a graph of world population for that same time period. Climate Scientists feel that the reason for the HEAT increase (Global Warming) is that excessive world CO2 allowed a high altitude layer to block the infrared wave energy from the sun that then hit the Earth and bounced upward. 30 or so years ago the layer had not yet formed and the infrared would continue into space. Today, the radiation is refracted back to earth and has caused Man-caused Global Warming.

So now we're up to 50 years from 30? OK, no problem----50 WHOLE YEARS out of the last 4.3 billion? Or I'll settle for all the 50-year periods for the last 4.5 million years of our CURRENT ICE AGE. (Yes, by definition, we are in an ICE AGE)

maistocars 09-06-2024 02:28 PM

They don't call them experts for nothing..............

golfing eagles 09-06-2024 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maistocars (Post 2367923)
They don't call them experts for nothing..............

Let me correct that grammar:

They are experts AT nothing

fdpaq0580 09-06-2024 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 2367607)
Environmentalism is obviously just another religion.

Others might think environmentalism is obviously a long term survival strategy. I tend to agree.

fdpaq0580 09-06-2024 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2367725)
This is the ridiculous part -- how the media (and complicit experts) twist the facts in order to protect a myth that CO2 is a control knob. Find out more Sep 6, 4 PM, at Lake Miona -- for the weekly Philosophy Club meeting.

The funny part is, I never heard anyone else refer to CO2 as a "control knob". Is that your creation, or are you just repeating it because you thought it sounded cool? 🫠

fdpaq0580 09-06-2024 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2367740)
We should be thinking more about what kind of world we are handing over to our grandkids and great grandkids and not just the price of gas and groceries in the present.

Yes! Unfortunately, some people can't "see the forest for the trees". Short term myopia. Maybe, if they got their heads out of their a ...rmpits (dodged a bullet there), they would actually see the truth all around them. Maybe they just can't handle the truth? 😒😑

fdpaq0580 09-06-2024 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2367761)
Yes, we should. The world the climate change cultists want is one of abject poverty for 99.99% and 0.01% benefiting from the windfall of $168 TRILLION spent to "combat" the absolute fallacy of anthropogenic global warming at our expense. I'd rather these cultists use at least 2 neurons to realize the science of paleoclimatology tells us humans have nothing to do with these repetitive cycles of glaciation and interglacial thaws and spend their efforts addressing real problems such as how to lower their golf handicaps. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Golf handicaps? Eagles not good enough for you? You wish to be called Golfing Aces now? 😉

fdpaq0580 09-06-2024 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2367797)
Again ... you don't know how much man-made CO2 warmed the earth last year ... which is why the media and so-called experts won't say ---- because it's soooo tiny it exposes the CO2 control-knob scam.

Oh, we know! But you don't know the secret handshake, so we're not going to tell you.
Open your eyes. Open your mind. Open your search. You can find it, just like I and others have done. Or, ignore reality and sit around making fun of real science. Enjoy!

fdpaq0580 09-06-2024 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2367858)
OK, I'll post it ONCE AGAIN---the challenge is:

Get a degree in climatology and a job at a major university. Then apply for a grant for your research to prove global warming has nothing to do with human activity. See how far you get. See if you get published. See if you get tenure. Starve. Then you can read the divorce papers from your wife that left you for a climatologist who understands academia, has a huge grant for playing along with the powers that be to advocate the MYTH of anthropogenic global warming, and is the future fraudulent chairman of climatology at Harvard.

Uh? Wife left you for a guy with a huge "grant"? Is that what they're calling it these days? I call mine "meenie-weenie". Guess my wife hasn't met "Grant" yet?
Or, are you making up another one of your "acadamia nut" conspiracy stories again? Naughty Golfing Eagles! Tsk, Tsk. 🙈🙉🙊

golfing eagles 09-06-2024 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2367969)
Uh? Wife left you for a guy with a huge "grant"? Is that what they're calling it these days? I call mine "meenie-weenie". Guess my wife hasn't met "Grant" yet?
Or, are you making up another one of your "acadamia nut" conspiracy stories again? Naughty Golfing Eagles! Tsk, Tsk. 🙈🙉🙊

Clearly a reply from someone unfamiliar with how academia works.

MorTech 09-07-2024 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2367920)
So now we're up to 50 years from 30? OK, no problem----50 WHOLE YEARS out of the last 4.3 billion? Or I'll settle for all the 50-year periods for the last 4.5 million years of our CURRENT ICE AGE. (Yes, by definition, we are in an ICE AGE)

Earth is cold, dry and windy with hardly any cloud cover or CO2...Barely biological life sustaining. Earth should be bright white when viewed from outer space...Not blue. Hurricanes and tornados diminish as global temperatures rise because of smaller global temperature deltas (H and L pressure). We are obviously in an Ice Age. Obviously.

jimjamuser 09-07-2024 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 2368033)
Earth is cold, dry and windy with hardly any cloud cover or CO2...Barely biological life sustaining. Earth should be bright white when viewed from outer space...Not blue. Hurricanes and tornados diminish as global temperatures rise because of smaller global temperature deltas (H and L pressure). We are obviously in an Ice Age. Obviously.

Right now here in Florida, we have massive amounts of cloud cover and RAIN. It makes sense because the Earth is setting an all time record for temperature. Warm air holds more moisture. That's why in The Villages our lakes are close to overflowing. As far as the sky being BLUE as seen from Earth and space, I believe that is due to blue being the shortest of the light frequencies and therefore being able to cut through the air best to be SEEN. As far as the Earth having "hardly ANY CO2" that is the exact opposite of our current condition where the Coral Reefs are all dying from TOO MUCH CO2. And the Earth having this year as a RECORD HOT year because of TOO MUCH CO2 being produced by factories and internal combustion engines. Also, hurricanes and tornadoes don't "diminish " ------just the opposite they become STRONGER and more frequent. Hurricanes are an Earth mechanism to COOL off the summer HEAT (WHICH GETS HIGHER EACH YEAR for the last 30 years). Since the Earth is at RECORD temperatures that would be the LARGEST factor as to the intensity and frequency of hurricanes and tornadoes. However, there are about 4 other factors that can also determine the number of hurricanes we will experience in ANY given year (like this year).
.........World population increase and automobile and ICE usage are likely to keep INCREASING for the foreseeable FUTURE due to human greed and shortsightedness. Only wars and disease can slow down population growth.

sounding 09-07-2024 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2368211)
Right now here in Florida, we have massive amounts of cloud cover and RAIN. It makes sense because the Earth is setting an all time record for temperature. Warm air holds more moisture. That's why in The Villages our lakes are close to overflowing. As far as the sky being BLUE as seen from Earth and space, I believe that is due to blue being the shortest of the light frequencies and therefore being able to cut through the air best to be SEEN. As far as the Earth having "hardly ANY CO2" that is the exact opposite of our current condition where the Coral Reefs are all dying from TOO MUCH CO2. And the Earth having this year as a RECORD HOT year because of TOO MUCH CO2 being produced by factories and internal combustion engines. Also, hurricanes and tornadoes don't "diminish " ------just the opposite they become STRONGER and more frequent. Hurricanes are an Earth mechanism to COOL off the summer HEAT (WHICH GETS HIGHER EACH YEAR for the last 30 years). Since the Earth is at RECORD temperatures that would be the LARGEST factor as to the intensity and frequency of hurricanes and tornadoes. However, there are about 4 other factors that can also determine the number of hurricanes we will experience in ANY given year (like this year).
.........World population increase and automobile and ICE usage are likely to keep INCREASING for the foreseeable FUTURE due to human greed and shortsightedness. Only wars and disease can slow down population growth.

Thanks for the opinions. It is well known that nature has many checks and balances controlling earth's transfer of heat from the from the surface to outer space -- and one of them is hurricanes. Since global warming and the extra warming produced by Tonga is inhibiting hurricanes, nature is countering the lack of hurricanes with extended areas of tropical precipitation, because these thunderstorms also help cool the oceans and radiate heat to space. Once Tonga's heating event tappers off, so will hurricanes eventually come back.

jimjamuser 09-07-2024 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2368241)
Thanks for the opinions. It is well known that nature has many checks and balances controlling earth's transfer of heat from the from the surface to outer space -- and one of them is hurricanes. Since global warming and the extra warming produced by Tonga is inhibiting hurricanes, nature is countering the lack of hurricanes with extended areas of tropical precipitation, because these thunderstorms also help cool the oceans and radiate heat to space. Once Tonga's heating event tappers off, so will hurricanes eventually come back.

OK, that seems like good, normal information to me. Keep up the good work.

fdpaq0580 09-07-2024 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2367987)
Clearly a reply from someone unfamiliar with how academia works.

Clearly, from someone who has some axe to grind with "academia".
After reading all the conspiracy theories of how academia supposedly works, I'm frankly amazed that we have any advances in science, medicine, technology, etc, at all. Following the logic of the academia conspiracy theory, we should still be living in caves and have our ailments treated by witch doctors or shamans. The only advancements would have to come from the loonie fringe, Iike an un-respected, secretive "Dr." Frankenstein or "dr," Moreau, performing their unauthorized experiments hidden away from prying eyes.
No! I believe that mainstream science gives us our best medicines for our ailments. I think it's better than treating things like, well, covid, for example, than doing nothing or injecting bleach, like some had suggested.
The current consensus is that humans are pushing global warming. Even during this part of the reported ice (internal combustion engine) age. Nuff said for now!
😉😏


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:50 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.32 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.