I use Clime, the NOAA weather app, and I have a screen shot of NOAA upgrading Francine to Cat 2 at 6:08 PM yesterday
I am going to assume that NOAA is a verified source and not a news source. If not, we have alot bigger problems.

Makes me wonder who the conspiracies are. The 99% of the world's best and brightest, or the ones who demand we answer silly questions and give them data which they refute.

That's funny. However, NOAA is a valid source of corrupted data, because they alter and fabricate temperature data to support the fake climate crisis. See attached diagram of one of hundreds of examples -- some of which will be discussed at the next Weather Club meeting ... The Villages Weather Club

OK about the altered data, but does the NOAA announcement, replicated by news media, mean that the classification to Cat 2 was not made? or was it made with altered data? I can't tell from the screen shot.

However, your point is well taken about altered data. Politicos will do what politicos need to do as every politico is a survivor. .

Just because I don't have it does not mean it doesn’t exist. It just means you aren't getting your info from the proper source.

Note -- Greg Postel, from the Weather Channel, is also questioning the NHC decision like I am. He too can not find evidence of Cat 2 status ... https://x.com/GregPostel/status/1833978091225641023

Greg Postel, from the Weather Channel, sees the same problem I do. The NHC does not have data to prove Cat 2 status ... https://x.com/GregPostel/status/1833978091225641023

Cat 1 and Cat 2 are separated by 1 mph. Get it wrong and heads will roll. 🤭

Guess you and Greg should picket NHC headquarters until they show you their wind speed indicator. While your there, ask if anyone knows how much human made CO2 warmed the atmosphere last year. Inquiring minds want to know.

OK, i see the conflicts:
surface wind measurement, versus aircraft wind measurement at elevation, versus barometric pressure indicated wind speed versus short term trend extrapolation versus agreed upon classification thresholds versus overly conservative fear of underestimating and getting sued, which has happened and the govt lost.

Therefore, the scenario is in the grey zone, which can be very disturbing to strong xSxJ personality types, and notable was that the Cat2 didn't last long. .
so even though my brother has a house in NO and in MS, so yeah, i am not going to be looking for a massive, significant conspiracy theory at the moment, as an xNxP personality type.

Personally, since insurance companies pay out or are held to expectations based upon weather storm classifications, as far as i am concerned for them, this was a cat 7 storm
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OP, made his call too soon as it went from Cat 1 to Cat 2 just before landfall. No big deal as there is little difference between a strong Cat 1 or a rather weak Cat 2., maybe 1 or 2 miles an hour. The major networks all called it a Cat 2 and get their information from the hurricane center. What else is there to know?

"What else is there to know" ... is how the NHC is gradually inflating the numbers ... for which Dr Neil Frank, the longest serving Director of the NHC, is warning people about ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30kWv95kF_4

I saw it mentioned on abc news as a category 2 as well as various news sources showed it as a category 2.

Can't see the hurricane from my backyard, so I really don't care what category it is.

What is your non-hearsay evidence that it was a Cat 1? It might just have been a tropical storm.

ABC News is complicate in faking the climate crisis -- so they are not reliable. Plus, Greg Postel of the Weather Channel sees the same problem like I so ... there is no data to support the Cat 2 status ... https://x.com/GregPostel/status/1833978091225641023

The Cat 1 data is obvious as the DATA shows ... https://x.com/GregPostel/status/1833978091225641023

You might care a whole lot when you know inflation of severe weather data (including temperature) all go to support the fake climate crisis -- which creates unnecessary taxes and less freedoms of choice. Remember what Ottmar said.

A matter of perspective
 

I expect the citizens of Louisiana will consider a category 1 hurricane sufficient.

Who are the other 4?

I do people that live on coast expect government to bail them out for there poor choice which costs use all in the end. :oops:

I, for one, am happy for the last 13,000 years of global warming. Living on, or right next to, a glacier is not appealing to me.

Logical fallacies are never a reason to believe something is true.

That said, the Earth definitely is warming and would be even if humans never existed. The Milkanovitch Cycles, which have been accepted scientific fact since the 79s when their predictions still matches reality,show this clearly. They also clearly show CO2 level changes follow temp changes by a few hundred years, at least it has been such for the last 400,000 years or so

The issue is how much does man add to the temp rise, and this question cannot be answered by our current understanding of how our climate works. Right now, our addition falls into the margin of error, which is unfortunately very large.

The reason man's addition is what really matters is that if it is a scant 1%, then nothing we do matters. If it is 99%, then destroying economies and causing misery and suffering is a must.
We are quite sure it is neither of those two extremes, with it most likely being at the lower end, but we need to learn more before we know how to respond.

Those who say it is already too late are simply liars. Just like the guy who won a Nobel Prize for lying about glaciers all being gone in 2015.

More or less government?
 

The discussion is really whether weather is used to push governments growth and control.😎😍

Yahoo news
 

Francine was downgraded to a tropical depression on Thursday morning after making landfall in Louisiana as a Category 2 storm on Wednesday, the National Hurricane Center said.

One pair of size 15 camouflage flip flops comming right up, Boss! 😃😉🙃

The problem is, the NHC has no data or evidence that Cat 2 winds were observed. This is troubling. Even Greg Postel from the Weather Channel sees this problem ... https://x.com/GregPostel/status/1833978091225641023

National hurricane center
 

Francine was downgraded to a tropical depression on Thursday morning after making landfall in Louisiana as a Category 2 storm on Wednesday, the National Hurricane Center said.

National Hurricane center
 

Francine was downgraded to a tropical depression on Thursday morning after making landfall in Louisiana as a Category 2 storm on Wednesday, the National Hurricane Center said.

"FAKE"? You just called the director of the NHC a liar! Oh, my. Somebody call AP news wire. This could be big ... or not. 🙈🙉🙊😶

Conspiracy theory. And, it's a world wide conspiracy involving friends and enemies? Well, anything is possible, but not very probable.

It's easy to make a claim, but it's better to provide data. Whenever I made a tropical cyclone forecast, I always provided the data. The NHC, so far, is not providing data showing evidence of Cat 2 status. Even The Weather Channel's Greg Postel sees this problem ... https://x.com/GregPostel/status/1833978091225641023

Maybe a little information other than longest serving director is important. Dr Frank is a signatory to the Evangelical Declaration on Global Warming which claims that God will take care of the planet and fix any problems.
The Heartland institute where he spoke is
Now the crux of Dr Frank's talk, making it seem like a conspiracy, Well he spends a lot of time looking at 1933 mild hurricane season and comparing it to 2020. He blames it all on satellites. Before satellites we couldn't see many storms that weren't near land. So people saying we have more hurricanes are wrong because we just didn't know about them before satellites.

He concludes, to a smattering of applause, that people who use "raw hurricane data to do research" are wrong.

Unlike Sounding's claim that Dr Frank spoke about gradually inflating numbers (sneaking it by on us), Dr Frank did not make that claim. He was very clear about the role of satellite detection which began in the 70's as his issue, with some few comments about how storms get named.

Cat 1, HUH ! What about those being flooded, homes destroyed, having to rebuild ! HUH ! Again . And you posted that it was only a Cat 1.

[QUOTE=sounding;2369801]ABC News is complicate in faking the climate crisis -- so they are not reliable.

Oh? Really? Prove it! Please provide your data! (Don't bother. We wouldn't believe you any more than you believe us.) 🫠

You don't need a hurricane to create flooding. Come to the Weather Club for examples -- or look it up.

Nice to visit, but I'm with you. Wouldn’t want to live there.
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Sounding said it! HE couldn't be wrong! .... could he? I'm pretty sure it was a Cat 1 for a little while.

What does a video of the 1st moon landing have to do with whether a hurricane is Cat 1 or Cat 2 ? 100 MPH winds plus flooding can be a life threatening experience.

There is no data to support Cat 2 status. Even Greg Postel of the Weather Channel sees this problem ... https://x.com/GregPostel/status/1833978091225641023