Originally Posted by HORNET (Post 2369904)

Cat 1, HUH ! What about those being flooded, homes destroyed, having to rebuild ! HUH ! Again . And you posted that it was only a Cat 1.

Originally Posted by CybrSage (Post 2369824)

I, for one, am happy for the last 13,000 years of global warming. Living on, or right next to, a glacier is not appealing to me.

Originally Posted by HORNET (Post 2369904)

Cat 1, HUH ! What about those being flooded, homes destroyed, having to rebuild ! HUH ! Again . And you posted that it was only a Cat 1.

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2369629)

If Fox had that data point, they would have reported it -- just like video of the 1st moon landing -- otherwise it's just hear-say.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2369921)

What does a video of the 1st moon landing have to do with whether a hurricane is Cat 1 or Cat 2 ? 100 MPH winds plus flooding can be a life threatening experience.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2369921)

What does a video of the 1st moon landing have to do with whether a hurricane is Cat 1 or Cat 2 ? 100 MPH winds plus flooding can be a life threatening experience.

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2369912)

You don't need a hurricane to create flooding. Come to the Weather Club for examples -- or look it up.

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2369662)

Of course they did. The National Weather Service also says man is responsible for global warming -- but they never tell you how much "man-made" CO2 warms the earth.

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2369664)

Even Greg Postel from the Weather Channel is challenging the hurricane center as I do ... https://x.com/GregPostel/status/1833978091225641023

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2369740)

That is really the only constant: the constant string of excuses dating back to Katrina, of why we're not suffering from an avalanche of super hurricanes.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2369929)

Man IS responsible for Global Warming. As far as CO2 is concerned if you are NOT worried about it, then try breathing while riding a bicycle behind a 2 year or older Golf Cart. The machines of humans (vehicles and factories) produce CO2. The MORE humans, therefore the MORE CO2 pollution. It is killing the Coral Reefs, warming the planet, melting glaciers, raising up the oceans levels, endangering cities, and increasing the production of plant pollen, which affects allergy sufferers almost year round now. The air is warmer so it holds more moisture and the oceans are warmer so that eventually Hurricanes will get stronger.
...........Why worry about whether a hurricane is class 1 or class 2 ------when the Earth is over-heating and the cause is too many oil and gasoline burning internal combustion engines in the world ??????

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2369929)

Man IS responsible for Global Warming. As far as CO2 is concerned if you are NOT worried about it, then try breathing while riding a bicycle behind a 2 year or older Golf Cart. The machines of humans (vehicles and factories) produce CO2. The MORE humans, therefore the MORE CO2 pollution. It is killing the Coral Reefs, warming the planet, melting glaciers, raising up the oceans levels, endangering cities, and increasing the production of plant pollen, which affects allergy sufferers almost year round now. The air is warmer so it holds more moisture and the oceans are warmer so that eventually Hurricanes will get stronger.
...........Why worry about whether a hurricane is class 1 or class 2 ------when the Earth is over-heating and the cause is too many oil and gasoline burning internal combustion engines in the world ??????

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2369933)

I would think that the answer to that question could be found by comparing the number and strength of WORLD-WIDE hurricanes in the past 30 years with the number for a period 30 years before our current period. I am NOT interested in doing that because Earth HEAT (and recorded temperatures) are the main problem and the last 30 years can be easily quantified and easy to look up. It is pretty logical that there will be more hurricanes when the EARTH is hotter.

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2369941)

Oh! Don't forget the cow farts! G E needs to know about cow farts. Humans are responsible for cow farts.

Originally Posted by CybrSage (Post 2369832)

Logical fallacies are never a reason to believe something is true.

That said, the Earth definitely is warming and would be even if humans never existed. The Milkanovitch Cycles, which have been accepted scientific fact since the 79s when their predictions still matches reality,show this clearly. They also clearly show CO2 level changes follow temp changes by a few hundred years, at least it has been such for the last 400,000 years or so

The issue is how much does man add to the temp rise, and this question cannot be answered by our current understanding of how our climate works. Right now, our addition falls into the margin of error, which is unfortunately very large.

The reason man's addition is what really matters is that if it is a scant 1%, then nothing we do matters. If it is 99%, then destroying economies and causing misery and suffering is a must.
We are quite sure it is neither of those two extremes, with it most likely being at the lower end, but we need to learn more before we know how to respond.

Those who say it is already too late are simply liars. Just like the guy who won a Nobel Prize for lying about glaciers all being gone in 2015.