Talk of The Villages Florida

Talk of The Villages Florida (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/)
-   Weather Talk (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/weather-talk-515/)
-   -   Hurricane Ian & Climate Change Calamity (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/weather-talk-515/hurricane-ian-climate-change-calamity-336004/)

fdpaq0580 10-28-2022 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2151948)
Perfect pH answer. This is not my first pH rodeo. This is how climate alarmism works -- pick the most alarming scale -- and/or cherry pick data. Yes indeed, the ocean became less alkaline (and not more acidic like the Smithsonian said). This "less alkaline" cycle happens about every 100,000 years during Interglacial Warming Periods -- like the one we are currently in. And here we come to the bottom line -- these changes all fall within historic natural cycles. There is no climate emergency -- and there is no proof "man-made" CO2 has caused any climate to change.

The proof is there, if you would truly care to research it with an open mind, except the facts, rather than just try to bolster misinformation.

sounding 10-28-2022 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 2151950)
Apparently it is your first pH rodeo as your previous post showed that you didn't understand that pH was a logarithmic scale since you accused the authors of the Smithsonian article of not being able to do math. Ironic, don't you think. You should just stop now.

Why is the title of the Smithsonian article called "Ocean Acidification"? Why not say corals need more CO2 and subsequent carbonates to grow more reefs? Why not say global warming advances coral diversity, because corals love warm waters and their diversity was much greater when CO2 levels were much greater? Why not say the Great Barrier Reef is now at its greatest extent in 37 years. Why not say there is no climate emergency -- just climate alarmism?

tuccillo 10-28-2022 09:27 AM

I personally don't care about the title of the article. A decrease in alkalinity can be referred to as becoming more acidic. Regardless, I was pointing out the obvious error in your post about the Smithsonian authors not being able to do math. Again, you should just stop now. I won't be wasting anymore time here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2151966)
Why is the title of the Smithsonian article called "Ocean Acidification"? Why not say corals need more CO2 and subsequent carbonates to grow more reefs? Why not say global warming advances coral diversity, because corals love warm waters and their diversity was much greater when CO2 levels were much greater? Why not say the Great Barrier Reef is now at its greatest extent in 37 years. Why not say there is no climate emergency -- just climate alarmism?


sounding 10-28-2022 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2151962)
The proof is there, if you would truly care to research it with an open mind, except the facts, rather than just try to bolster misinformation.

That "proof" does not exist. CO2 is not a problem. CO2 is innocent until proven guilty -- that's the law. The core claim is that "man-made" CO2 is causing global warming, but there is no data to support that. See for yourself, just Google this for example ... How much has "man-made" CO2 warmed earth's temperature last year?

sounding 10-28-2022 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 2151968)
I personally don't care about the title of the article. A decrease in alkalinity can be referred to as becoming more acidic. Regardless, I was pointing out the obvious error in your post about the Smithsonian authors not being able to do math. Again, you should just stop now. I won't be wasting anymore time here.

The Smithsonian mathematicians actually achieved their goal -- to alarm the public about a non-existent problem. Just review this thread -- the "man-on-the-street" actually believes the oceans are 30% more acidic -- not realizing the details. Bottom line ... no one can provide data showing that "man-made" CO2 causes global warming.

Byte1 10-28-2022 09:49 AM

And to think that I spent all that time reading about the increase in volcanic activity in our oceans. I am no expert so I will just guess that volcanoes erupting under our oceans cause the oceans to warm, AND also cause "acidity" in the water. Of course, we also have volcanoes on land that also erupt causing more air pollution than mankind (according to what I have read, right or wrong).
I think I will cast my vote for the idea of convenient "alarmism." Granted, I also believe that air pollution exists, but it is not all caused by man. AND like I have said before, the air quality is better in this country now than when I was a child. Even though I have read plenty of posts on here claiming "man caused climate change" the evidence presented by many on has suggested cyclic climate change and NO evidence of man having the ability to change that.

sounding 10-28-2022 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2151977)
And to think that I spent all that time reading about the increase in volcanic activity in our oceans. I am no expert so I will just guess that volcanoes erupting under our oceans cause the oceans to warm, AND also cause "acidity" in the water. Of course, we also have volcanoes on land that also erupt causing more air pollution than mankind (according to what I have read, right or wrong).
I think I will cast my vote for the idea of convenient "alarmism." Granted, I also believe that air pollution exists, but it is not all caused by man. AND like I have said before, the air quality is better in this country now than when I was a child. Even though I have read plenty of posts on here claiming "man caused climate change" the evidence presented by many on has suggested cyclic climate change and NO evidence of man having the ability to change that.

Ah, a breath of reality. Audiences at the Weather Club know ... (1). There are at least 138 volcanoes under West Antarctica ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raR5YgFcIQQ and (2). There are at least 3 volcanoes under the East Arctic ice along with ongoing thermal venting while only 10% of that region is explored ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_a0exADJtk .

golfing eagles 10-28-2022 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2151907)
The Smithsonian says pH levels are more acidic and dropped by 30% ... saying it dropped from 8.2 to 8.1 pH. So just how does 30% reflect that 0.1 drop using the 0-14 pH scale? Answer: they failed the "new math" course and now push junk science. And exactly what does a pH of 8.1 mean? Answer: a pH of 8.1 is alkaline -- not acid. Furthermore, a simple scan of historic ocean pH levels shows it has been cycling between 8.3 and 8.1 for hundreds of thousands of years -- and probably more. The oceans were never acidic even when CO2 levels were 15 times higher than today. In the meantime, no one has ever dissolved while swimming in the ocean.

And yet again----stop confusing the true believers with the facts:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:18 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.32 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.