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ThirdOfFive 07-08-2024 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2348136)
It was fairly hot and humid in New Hampshire today. Mid-90's.

I looked at the weather in TV. 105, with a Heat Index of 126?

I've played golf (18 holes walking) with a heat index of 103/104 ... but 126?

Did people actually go outside today?

I doubt it. I played golf yesterday (Sunday) afternoon, walked with a pull cart, and though it was hot I think I've been out there when it has been hotter. I was far from the only person out there: on very hot days the courses are pretty much deserted.

It is like the cold up north. Nowadays it is a big deal with ultra-cold temps seemingly leading every newscast, but back in the day we'd check the thermometer in the mornings: if it was -20 or so it was "cold" and anything below that didn't matter. It was just more of the same. Some mornings it was below -40. How much below we didn't know because mercury freezes and breaks the thermometer at that temperature.

People obsess about things like that and media merely feeds the frenzy. Cold--hot--take sensible precautions and don't let it control your life.

bagboy 07-08-2024 06:41 AM

I worked in the yard yesterday, yes it was hot but I didn't think any hotter than normal for this time of year. During a break in front of a fan in the garage, i heard on WVLG radio the temperature was 98 ° with a heat index of 110°. This was probably between 3 and 4 pm.

Bay Kid 07-08-2024 06:51 AM

Summer, my favorite time of year!

MrFlorida 07-08-2024 07:00 AM

Normal for us, it's summer !

Michael 61 07-08-2024 07:23 AM

My second summer as a Villager. Last summer, all the old-timers were saying it was the hottest summer that they could remember. I had no baseline, but survived fine. I was looking forward to, and I’m now enjoying the summer warmth. This summer so far feels about the same as last.

Shipping up to Boston 07-08-2024 08:13 AM

@BrianL99...Rattlesnake hike yesterday. Definitely warm but the dip in Squam after was the reward!

BrianL99 07-08-2024 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2348249)
@BrianL99...Rattlesnake hike yesterday. Definitely warm but the dip in Squam after was the reward!

Saw you.

It was humid in the morning. My reward for being forced to play before 10 a.m. and walking 18, was an afternoon nap.

daniel200 07-08-2024 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2348156)
Exactly right - it is the hottest in recent history - but not for the full historic record. It's now hot for 3 reasons (and none are CO2 related). 1. The AMO (Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation) is still in its warm phase. 2. Sunspot cycle #25 is peaking. 3. Last and most important is the unprecedented amount of water vapor (earth's primary greenhouse gas) that the Tonga volcano ejected into the stratosphere - 10 miles up and higher - which is causing an unprecedented global warming spike as seen in attached satellite temperature graph. Updates on Tonga and Hurricanes will be presented during all Weather Club meetings this summer season. PS ... contrary to what the media claims, the Atlantic and Pacific tropical cyclone season was late getting started ... find out why at the Weather Club.


As usual, it is not so easy to parse the data and conclude that Tonga is causing an increase in temperature. Usually volcanoes cause a decrease in temperature due to the reflective nature of particles ejected into the atmosphere.

But Tonga also ejected a huge volume of water into the upper atmosphere and the water vapor would increase earth temperature.

The article below points out, that the reflective nature of the Tonga particles was overlooked in the first Tonga analysis. The water vapor in the upper atmosphere would heat the earth. The reflective Tonga paricles (like dust) cool the earth. The net effect from the Tonga volcano is slight cooling.


Plain Language Summary as provided in the article below:

The Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha'apai submarine volcanic eruption on 15 January 2022 produced aerosol and water vapor plumes in the stratosphere. These plumes have persisted mostly in the Southern Hemisphere throughout 2022. Enhanced tropospheric warming due to the added stratospheric water vapor is offset by the larger stratospheric aerosol attenuation of solar radiation. The change in the radiative flux could result in a very slight cooling in Southern Hemisphere surface temperatures



Read the article here at this link:

Just a moment...

courtyard 07-08-2024 02:19 PM

After SECO changed over today with their Smart Meters, we lost our air conditioning. We called the meter upgrade company and he's trying to fix it. It is now 91 degrees in the house!!!

sounding 07-08-2024 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel200 (Post 2348385)
As usual, it is not so easy to parse the data and conclude that Tonga is causing an increase in temperature. Usually volcanoes cause a decrease in temperature due to the reflective nature of particles ejected into the atmosphere.

But Tonga also ejected a huge volume of water into the upper atmosphere and the water vapor would increase earth temperature.

The article below points out, that the reflective nature of the Tonga particles was overlooked in the first Tonga analysis. The water vapor in the upper atmosphere would heat the earth. The reflective Tonga paricles (like dust) cool the earth. The net effect from the Tonga volcano is slight cooling.


Plain Language Summary as provided in the article below:

The Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha'apai submarine volcanic eruption on 15 January 2022 produced aerosol and water vapor plumes in the stratosphere. These plumes have persisted mostly in the Southern Hemisphere throughout 2022. Enhanced tropospheric warming due to the added stratospheric water vapor is offset by the larger stratospheric aerosol attenuation of solar radiation. The change in the radiative flux could result in a very slight cooling in Southern Hemisphere surface temperatures



Read the article here at this link:

Just a moment...

That article does a good job of minimizing water vapor and highlighting aerosols. But it fails to mention that the water vapor was much more extensive in space and time, while it neglected to note that the aerosols are falling out faster. Even though published earlier, this better paper fairly examines both factors in greater detail -- clearly concluding the net effect is significant warming ... Global perturbation of stratospheric water and aerosol burden by Hunga eruption | Communications Earth & Environment . Furthermore, you really don't need these "sciency" papers to tell you want is happening. "Common Sense" tells you Tonga is the primary reason why the Tropospheric temperature spike (see below graph) is so dramatic as compared to past spikes.

Dusty_Star 07-08-2024 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by courtyard (Post 2348386)
After SECO changed over today with their Smart Meters, we lost our air conditioning. We called the meter upgrade company and he's trying to fix it. It is now 91 degrees in the house!!!

Oh no! I hope it gets fixed quickly!

courtyard 07-08-2024 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dusty_Star (Post 2348399)
Oh no! I hope it gets fixed quickly!

The Smart Meter tech couldn't fix the problem. Said for us to call SunKool and who said we'll have to wait four more hours for a repairman. The SM tech said this was not a rare problem but it does happen when installing their system. I wonder why would they choose 100 degree weather in Florida to do this installation when there are many elderly people here.

Rainger99 07-08-2024 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2348186)
If the high is only 88, they report the "heat index" will be 100, and put up the area map showing heat indices rather than actual temps. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but it certainly looks like the MSM is either actively or passively pushing the fallacious "climate change" agenda.

I never heard the term heat index growing up so I googled it.

“The heat index was developed in 1979 by Robert G. Steadman.”

However, I don’t recall it being widely used until the last 10-15 years. I first noticed it when the weather forecast on tv showed temperatures in the 105-110 range but the forecast was in the mid 90s. I remember thinking the forecast was wrong and then I heard the term heat index. They should put both onscreen - the temperature and the heat index.

I wonder what the heat index was when I was a kid and the actual temperature was low 100s. And we didn’t have air conditioning. But a lot of things were easier when we were younger.

Altavia 07-08-2024 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by courtyard (Post 2348439)
The Smart Meter tech couldn't fix the problem. Said for us to call SunKool and who said we'll have to wait four more hours for a repairman. The SM tech said this was not a rare problem but it does happen when installing their system. I wonder why would they choose 100 degree weather in Florida to do this installation when there are many elderly people here.

When the power is interrupted and stops the compressor momentarily and rapidly restarts it, there is not enough time for the system pressures to equalize

When power is rapidly reapplied, it tries to start against a high head pressure and can be hard on a compressor. Or the motor start capacitor

SECO could advise people to turn their thermostat up before they swap out the meter to reduce this risk

What did SunKool find?

tophcfa 07-08-2024 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2348136)
It was fairly hot and humid in New Hampshire today. Mid-90's.

I looked at the weather in TV. 105, with a Heat Index of 126?

I've played golf (18 holes walking) with a heat index of 103/104 ... but 126?

Did people actually go outside today?

Played 18 this afternoon in the hill towns of western Massachusetts during the hazy, hot (mid 90’s), and humid dog days of summer. According to the weather channel, the heat index was about identical in the Villages today. Can’t wait until next week when we will be at our Villages home. If we are going to deal with the heat, we might as well be in the Villages where we can enjoy central air conditioning and our pool after playing golf : ) This heat sucks without air conditioning, but you can’t put ductwork in the walls of a log home and a ductless mini split doesn’t cut it in an open home with vaulted ceilings.


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