Originally Posted by Blueblaze (Post 2223055)

My son-in-law is an Ag scientist at Missouri U. He once merely expressed skepticism about man-made global warming during water-cooler talk. It effectively ended his career. He was not offered tenure when he became eligible, which is the same as being fired in our corrupt university system.

But he was such a beloved teacher that his students protested and started a letter writing campaign that saved his job. The University agreed to allow him to continue his research (worth millions in grant money), on the condition that he add a freshman biology class to his schedule. Five years later, he still doesn't have tenure, so he'll never be able to move to a different university (Texas A&M and Florida once pursued him relentlessly). But he has wised up since then. He dutifully drunk the koolaid and is now a fierce proponent of global warming and whatever else he's told to think. So is my daughter. They've become so afraid to expose their kids to the common sense they were raised on that we're lucky if they let us see our grandkids once a year.

Originally Posted by Blueblaze (Post 2223055)

My son-in-law is an Ag scientist at Missouri U. He once merely expressed skepticism about man-made global warming during water-cooler talk. It effectively ended his career. He was not offered tenure when he became eligible, which is the same as being fired in our corrupt university system.

But he was such a beloved teacher that his students protested and started a letter writing campaign that saved his job. The University agreed to allow him to continue his research (worth millions in grant money), on the condition that he add a freshman biology class to his schedule. Five years later, he still doesn't have tenure, so he'll never be able to move to a different university (Texas A&M and Florida once pursued him relentlessly). But he has wised up since then. He dutifully drunk the koolaid and is now a fierce proponent of global warming and whatever else he's told to think. So is my daughter. They've become so afraid to expose their kids to the common sense they were raised on that we're lucky if they let us see our grandkids once a year.

Originally Posted by Blueblaze (Post 2223055)

My son-in-law is an Ag scientist at Missouri U. He once merely expressed skepticism about man-made global warming during water-cooler talk. It effectively ended his career. He was not offered tenure when he became eligible, which is the same as being fired

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2223076)

Very understandable. He was talking like a priest who is arguing that the whole God and Jesus thing is a hoax. It is a wonder they kept him on.

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2223076)

Very understandable. He was talking like a priest who is arguing that the whole God and Jesus thing is a hoax. It is a wonder they kept him on.

Originally Posted by Blueblaze (Post 2223161)

No, he mistakenly believed he was a scientist who was supposed to be searching for truth with a skeptic mind.

NOW he's a priest, and very careful to rub the blue mud into his navel in the correct counter-clockwise motion, as instructed by his gods in Administration.

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2223224)

You missed my point. He had a decision to make. Stand up for his belief and find other work that he can feel good about, or worry about his precious job and tenure and sellout and live the life of a coward. He sold out. He kept his job, but still doesn't have his precious tenure and has probably missed a promotion or two.
Or ..... doing further study, he realized he had been wrong and with newer, more compete and more accurate information actually change his opinion.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2223248)

I doubt he would have changed from being 100% correct to totally wrong based on "further study". On the other hand, his survival instincts forced him, and most other scientists to spout out the party line of lies.

Originally Posted by Jim1mack (Post 2222609)

One thing that is never mentioned is Presession. Earth's wobble. It is not always inclined 23.5 degrees from the solar plain. It’s wobble is cyclical. See Milankovitch Cycles.

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2223224)

You missed my point. He had a decision to make. Stand up for his belief and find other work that he can feel good about, or worry about his precious job and tenure and sellout and live the life of a coward. He sold out. He kept his job, but still doesn't have his precious tenure and has probably missed a promotion or two.
Or ..... doing further study, he realized he had been wrong and with newer, more compete and more accurate information actually change his opinion.

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2223308)

More like facts as far as the current science on the subject can tell.

The global warming deniers are poor scientists for the most part just pushing junk science based on poor supposition and conjectures.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2223385)

Love you Tal for these many years, but you’re on the wrong side of this one. We’ve been going through 60-100,000 year warming and cooling cycles for the last 4 million years. Your SUV has nothing to do with it

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2223385)

Love you Tal for these many years, but you’re on the wrong side of this one. We’ve been going through 60-100,000 year warming and cooling cycles for the last 4 million years. Your SUV has nothing to do with it

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2223308)

More like facts as far as the current science on the subject can tell.

The global warming deniers are poor scientists for the most part just pushing junk science based on poor supposition and conjectures.