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The turnpike was there first!
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Wait till they widen the turnpike. Then it will really be loud.
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You must be from somewhere very quiet. I’ve lived in the city of Chicago and in rural Panhandle of Florida. Both were much louder. The crickets and toads were the worst! I’m close to the Turnpike and mostly only hear a droning hummmm. To each his own interpretation.
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We live on the western edge of the Ocala National Forest. We sometimes hear the bombs dropped at the Forest Bombing range, especially when they drop a bunker buster. :)
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One of the hazards in many areas south of 44. Lots of purchased land along the turnpike.
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I agree, we live in St Catherine and wonder what could be done outside of moving. What would The Villager residents need to do to convince the developers to put up sound walls along the turnpike? Is there a process?
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Not trying to be a wise guy but why did you buy there then? I realize new homes were selling as cheap as pre owned homes or are still selling as cheap. But I was told by someone living in Fenney that property taxes are higher & bonds are higher. Hope things get better with the noise!
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I love my house on the Historic side ...you can hear a pin drop at 100 feet.
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If you are happy where you are, that’s all that matters. Stop bashing those of us who chose to live south of 44.
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"I hate the quiet after it snows! I love the noise of the city! It drowns out the voices in my head!!!"
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Thank you very much about being transparent in living at the villages near the TP.
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More brave people are need like you.
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They have built a very desirable area and when new areas are announced they go very quickly making people rush to buy before exercising due diligence and getting undesirable locations. |
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I did my homework! I live near NO railroad tracks, no major road, no area that could cause noise! I visited neighborhoods at all hours of day and night. I did not want brownwood area ( 44/301) and way too much drugs and crime. No Spanish springs, 27/441 plus easy access to the square.
I do live close to sumter landing. No immediate access, Sable Chase, Virginia trace etc. People spending so much money should do their homework. MOST DO NOT. |
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That would suck.
I have to believe when that happens, the citizens will have a case for installation of a wall on both sides. It is hard to justify a wall when you knew the interstate was there. But there will be justification for it when they change the size of the Turnpike (shorten the buffer to homes). The developer might want the idyllic golf courses and manicured lawns visible to sell more homes down south, but I suspect the din of voices calling for a wall will be powerful. When you look at any other widening of the turnpike or any other interstate, you almost always see the inclusion of new walls. We'll have to see on this one, though. Quote:
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So many people are not from this area and don't have the luxury of renting for leisure while searching for a home or second home.
When here, the homes sell out in hours or days and while you do your best to calculate all the angles, you cannot account for every crime stat, every weather condition, for every landmark or roadway. If these homes sold like most of us are used to seeing in our lives, you take a flyer, mull over a purchase for a week, and in many cases still get the house (maybe with a stiffer offer in some cases). Right now, a house goes on the market, and by the end of the day 7 people have a hold to buy the house at the exact price asked. None of this excuses a person's due diligence and the simple fact you can always walk away. But, there are factors that the average life-style visitor doesn't take into account -- I think the whole point of the lifestyle visit is to amp the emotions for an impulse buy. Quote:
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I agree with both of you.
What we haven't even discussed is how close the Village of St. John (which is multiple separated sections along Meggison) is to the Turnpike. There are several areas where I swear that I still have the arm to throw a baseball from the breakdown lane on the turnpike, across Meggison, and hit a house in St. John. Maybe I'm dreaming. Quote:
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I don't think there is anything reasonable that can be done.
No one made us buy here. The developer didn't put up trees to obscure the turnpike -- though it might have helped to dampen the noise. For the St. Catherine folks, you might have a double whammy when the night-life fires up at Saw Grass. At the squares there are many buildings that enclose the square entertainment. At Sawgrass, there is little to dampen the nightlife from the neighborhood area. There will be more cars, more carts, and more sounds. ..... to answer your question, I think the home sales along the turnpike would have to slow to a crawl. From what I see, they are only ramping up. Therefore, no incentive to do anything. Quote:
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I agree. I started this thread to generate discussion to understand the noise from the turnpike. The noise is different day to day -- with some days/nights being very loud and other times remarkably silent.
As usual, this thread has devolved into being lectured by greater minds about our lessor judgement and reasoning. Most of the time on this forum, I pull my punches and just push away from the keyboard as it serves no purpose to denigrate others and ultimately diminish myself. I live here and work in Leesburg. I've given up on defending Villagers to those people. Some of their criticisms are given life in the words on some of these threads. By the way, other than the noise and bugs, I kinda like South of 44. Quote:
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I've done some traveling since moving in. We went to a place called "Lake Sumter Landing" and then this one time we went to another place called "Spanish Springs". Some places were louder, some places were quieter but it seemed the farther north we went the older the people got. Our house doubled in value so we're considering a vacation home in a place called Citrus Springs. To get there you have to take this sketchy bridge over a road called "27/441" Joe |
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To answer your question about why buy a house by the turnpike…Probably for the same reasons you bought where you did. We too just bought a ‘house in the south’. Found a house we liked. We wanted a new house so that put us south of 44 to start. We like the amenities, and look forward to the future ones. Our ‘up north’ house is by the expressway so we know what to expect. Still can ask questions though about the sound such as does the colder weather amplify the volume. What have others done to help mitigate the noise? Etc. We are well aware of the turnpike’s proximity to the house and have read the too noisy / doesn’t bother me debate. Getting back to the OP, seems colder weather is a factor. Good to know! |
I haven't read all the responses, but you hear sounds differently on different days due to atmospheric inversions or ducting. Wind is important, but the vertical structure of the atmosphere at any particular time is critical. Atmospheric ducts are regularly created by strong inversions -- which are most common in winter and at night. The boundary of the inversion (the edges of the duct layer) acts as a reflector of sound because of the air density difference -- causing refraction -- and sound shadows. Depending on the height of the duct and the frequency of the sound, the "sound" can travel for miles. Even hundreds of years ago, when canons were commonly used, people noticed that sometimes nearby people barely heard the sound, yet folks miles away heard the canons very clearly. In other words, there can be dead sound spaces (shadows) between the sound areas during strong atmospheric ducting. Any good sounding (or raob) program will identify these inversions -- or ducting layers. Here is an excellent article on this subject ... Refraction of Sound Waves & Acoustic Shadows Explained
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For you people that complain about noise, 6 years ago we moved here from a Wisconsin house with a basement that housed
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