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jimjamuser 04-16-2023 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Fastskiguy (Post 2207976)
37 billion metric tons of Co2 dumped into the atmosphere every year just can't be a good thing over time. I'm sure we can all agree on that. Give a hoot, don't pollute!

Joe

Annual CO2 emissions worldwide 1940-2021 | Statista

Good link.

jimjamuser 04-16-2023 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by kkingston57 (Post 2207941)
Hard to argue facts. Weather is definitely getting crazy 26 inches in Fort Lauderdale most of which came down in 7 hours. Wait till the impending flooding in California when the 70 feet of snow melts and none of that snow is headed to the worst affected area, Lake Mead and Lake Powell.

Good post.

jimjamuser 04-16-2023 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Fastskiguy (Post 2207976)
37 billion metric tons of Co2 dumped into the atmosphere every year just can't be a good thing over time. I'm sure we can all agree on that. Give a hoot, don't pollute!

Joe

CO2 is not a pollutant. More importantly it is plant food, and more is better, because we are in a CO2 famine. Learn more 10 AM, April 17, Colony Cottage ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLnQo8l-BHc

Excess CO2 from infernal combustion engines IS definitely a pollutant. We have had 8 years of record HEAT worldwide. And ONLY E-vehicles, which are expensive right now can help us out of this serious dilemma.

fdpaq0580 04-16-2023 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Fastskiguy (Post 2208002)

Absolutely, yes. Seeing is believing ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ8Ws8ZrleE

Said the magician as he sawed the woman in half.

Two Bills 04-16-2023 11:22 AM

All these charts and graphs only prove whatever agenda the posters are supporting.
I do not need any chart or graph to tell me the UK weather/climate is warmer now than 80+ years ago when I was born.
Winters were bitter cold, with plenty of snow and ice.
Soft plants never stood a chance of surviving a winter.
I bring very few in now, and they get through winter mostly unscathed.
Rot due to wet is the main enemy of the gardener now.
Nature does not lie.
The only question that needs answering?
"Is the change in the Climate/Weather man made?"
Because if it isn't, we are being royally screwed by the zealots!

YeOldeCurmudgeon 04-16-2023 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2208060)
All these charts and graphs only prove whatever agenda the posters are supporting.
I do not need any chart or graph to tell me the UK weather/climate is warmer now than 80+ years ago when I was born.
Winters were bitter cold, with plenty of snow and ice.
Soft plants never stood a chance of surviving a winter.
I bring very few in now, and they get through winter mostly unscathed.
Rot due to wet is the main enemy of the gardener now.
Nature does not lie.
The only question that needs answering?
"Is the change in the Climate/Weather man made?"
Because if it isn't, we are being royally screwed by the zealots!

If the Greenhouse Gas theory is correct, then we are not getting screwed by zealots. While correlation does not prove causation -- that is, all the data shows the precipitous increase of Global Temps (much greater than in all geological history -- aside from a cataclysm like the asteroid that struck the earth that wiped out the dinosaurs -- it coincides with the advent of the Industrial Revolution and has grown incrementally or even synergistically with the increase of industrial activity. Something is causing this. All the contrary views that it is not greenhouse gases have been debunked by scientists -- like volcanic activity or the sun getting hotter, all BS created by propaganda. The best available science says it is greenhouse gases.

sounding 04-16-2023 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by YeOldeCurmudgeon (Post 2208063)
If the Greenhouse Gas theory is correct, then we are not getting screwed by zealots. While correlation does not prove causation -- that is, all the data shows the precipitous increase of Global Temps (much greater than in all geological history -- aside from a cataclysm like the asteroid that struck the earth that wiped out the dinosaurs -- it coincides with the advent of the Industrial Revolution and has grown incrementally or even synergistically with the increase of industrial activity. Something is causing this. All the contrary views that it is not greenhouse gases have been debunked by scientists -- like volcanic activity or the sun getting hotter, all BS created by propaganda. The best available science says it is greenhouse gases.

How much did "man-made" CO2 warm the earth last year?

sounding 04-16-2023 12:13 PM

Good point. I once fell all that Al-Gore alarmism -- until I looked at the data.

Keefelane66 04-16-2023 12:19 PM

I wonder if there's a tip jar at these meetings.

sounding 04-16-2023 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2208073)
I wonder if there's a tip jar at these meetings.

I believe these "Civil Discourse" meetings do have tip jars for the coffee, etc.

Johncolson 04-16-2023 12:34 PM

Huh! 7 inches of snow in Ft. Lauderdale. Never happened. Some very quick and easy research shows the last time it snowed in Ft. Lauderdale was January of 1977. This was the first report of snow flurries in over 200 years and no reports of snow flurries have been not seen since.

fdpaq0580 04-16-2023 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2208068)
How much did "man-made" CO2 warm the earth last year?

Now your getting silly ... again?

Fastskiguy 04-16-2023 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Fastskiguy (Post 2208002)

Absolutely, yes. Seeing is believing ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ8Ws8ZrleE

It's a neat video so thanks for that and obviously the idea that more CO2 can help plants grow better is a fact, agree 100%.

It's the idea that CO2 is warming our planet is my concern. It just doesn't seem like pumping so much pollution (CO2 and other greenhouse gasses) into the atmosphere is a good idea.

Think of when you are in a 30 mile line of traffic going 15mph on 75. All of the cars, all of the emissions. And this is happening all over the globe all day every day. Are you thinking about this as "awesome, more CO2, great for plants!" or are you like "sure seems like a lot of pollution....is it possible it could have an effect on the planet?"

Joe

fdpaq0580 04-16-2023 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2208070)
Good point. I once fell all that Al-Gore alarmism -- until I looked at the data.

You mean the fake data.

sounding 04-16-2023 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2208084)
Now your getting silly ... again?

Exactly, which is why "man-made" global warming is a silly belief -- but it is wishful thinking for many.


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