Originally Posted by martinse (Post 2141188)

easy to say, hard to do.

One suggestion put forward by "someone" was to drop a nuke on the storm while it was forming. Ahem...

Messing with nature is not simple. Yes, there are ways we can change the development of the hurricane, the problem is there is no way to know what the side affects will be without doing it. We can model the changes, but many people don't believe models - ie. Climate change.

So, we must tread lightly. I don't know if they still do it, but they used to seed tropical storms to cause them to rain more, the theory was if the storm lost it's water it would not be as bad as it would have been. I do not know if that is still practiced.

I can assure you if it were doable, it would be done. I am certain that people like darpa are investigating it, but as i said, it is not a simple problem, and if we whoops, it could quite literal result in the environment not being habitable.

What you are asking for is called terra forming - it is a subject that is being studied, mostly at this point to convert a planet like mars into something people could live on without living in domes.

So, we must tread carefully.

Originally Posted by alwann (Post 2141185)

To those more learned than I:

Why don't we have technology capable of mitigating storms like Ian?

Sending people to the moon and back, and maybe Mars one day. This we can do. Smashing a device into an asteroid to change its direction, this we can do. Technology to deal with tropical storms before they become a danger? Doesn't seem like that's in the cards. Hey, there has to be a business opportunity in this. Memo to Elon Musk: Can't you invent a big old fan of some kind to change the paths of killer storms? I'd bet you'd make a bundle. :jester:

Originally Posted by waterflower (Post 2141497)

In a very short period of time, after the EBS is alarmed we will find out many lies. Weather manipulation (HAARP) is one of many weapons to use against us. Destroy our economy, communities etc. Remember they will take down a passenger aircraft to get just one person. We have been lied to about many things. Stay tuned folks..

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2141297)

Hurricane Knowledge.com

Huge number of variables in predicting when and where hurricanes will land. And messing with them would just create more things to take into account.

It does look like the physics involved is a lot better than it was when I took physics classes in the 1970s.

Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2141188)

Easy to say, hard to do.

One suggestion put forward by "someone" was to drop a nuke on the storm while it was forming. ahem...

Messing with nature is not simple. Yes, there are ways we can change the development of the hurricane, the problem is there is no way to know what the side affects will be without doing it. We can model the changes, but many people don't believe models - ie. Climate Change.

So, we must tread lightly. I don't know if they still do it, but they used to seed tropical storms to cause them to rain more, the theory was if the storm lost it's water it would not be as bad as it would have been. I do not know if that is still practiced.

I can assure you if it were doable, it would be done. I am certain that people like DARPA are investigating it, but as I said, it is not a simple problem, and if we whoops, it could quite literal result in the environment not being habitable.

What you are asking for is called terra forming - it is a subject that is being studied, mostly at this point to convert a planet like Mars into something people could live on without living in domes.

So, we must tread carefully.

Originally Posted by waterflower (Post 2141497)

In a very short period of time, after the EBS is alarmed we will find out many lies. Weather manipulation (HAARP) is one of many weapons to use against us. Destroy our economy, communities etc. Remember they will take down a passenger aircraft to get just one person. We have been lied to about many things. Stay tuned folks..

Originally Posted by alwann (Post 2141185)

To those more learned than I:

Why don't we have technology capable of mitigating storms like Ian?

Sending people to the moon and back, and maybe Mars one day. This we can do. Smashing a device into an asteroid to change its direction, this we can do. Technology to deal with tropical storms before they become a danger? Doesn't seem like that's in the cards. Hey, there has to be a business opportunity in this. Memo to Elon Musk: Can't you invent a big old fan of some kind to change the paths of killer storms? I'd bet you'd make a bundle. :jester:

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2141664)

Probably not possible in the near future. According to NASA, an average hurricane releases the energy equivalent of 10,000 nuclear bombs. We would have to ask Scotty to give us a matter-antimatter reactor to match that.

So, here's an even better idea---harness the energy. According to the Smithsonian, an average hurricane generates 600 terawatts of energy, the entire worlds power output is about 5.2 terawatts. Grab 1% of a cat 3 storm and the entire world can have free electric power

Originally Posted by Carlsondm (Post 2141586)

Models are tweaked with each storm. They get better and better, but using them is an art. I was a model improver, validator for many years.
Some of nature’s actions are not controllable - ie volcanoes, fires, burping cows. There are many things we can control and that is what many countries focus on. Control and take charge or be a victim.

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2141666)

OK going to go into my workshop and build a machine to harness the energy of hurricanes. Anybody want to buy shares of stock in my new venture? Guaranteed rate of return.

Originally Posted by alwann (Post 2141185)

To those more learned than I:

Why don't we have technology capable of mitigating storms like Ian?

Sending people to the moon and back, and maybe Mars one day. This we can do. Smashing a device into an asteroid to change its direction, this we can do. Technology to deal with tropical storms before they become a danger? Doesn't seem like that's in the cards. Hey, there has to be a business opportunity in this. Memo to Elon Musk: Can't you invent a big old fan of some kind to change the paths of killer storms? I'd bet you'd make a bundle. :jester:

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2141666)

OK going to go into my workshop and build a machine to harness the energy of hurricanes. Anybody want to buy shares of stock in my new venture? Guaranteed rate of return.

Originally Posted by alwann (Post 2141185)

To those more learned than I:

Why don't we have technology capable of mitigating storms like Ian?

Sending people to the moon and back, and maybe Mars one day. This we can do. Smashing a device into an asteroid to change its direction, this we can do. Technology to deal with tropical storms before they become a danger? Doesn't seem like that's in the cards. Hey, there has to be a business opportunity in this. Memo to Elon Musk: Can't you invent a big old fan of some kind to change the paths of killer storms? I'd bet you'd make a bundle. :jester: