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gmnirr 08-26-2022 10:40 AM

No hurricanes
 
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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2129417)
For the first time in 30 years -- no hurricanes at this date. It's amazing how well increasing CO2 has been decreasing tropical storm activity.

The bad guys used HARP, in Alaska, to generate the worst hurricanes. The good guys took the complex over awhile ago.

Siegfried 08-26-2022 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2129417)
For the first time in 30 years -- no hurricanes at this date. It's amazing how well increasing CO2 has been decreasing tropical storm activity.

Is that a metaphysical fact or a psychological fantasy?

Worldseries27 08-26-2022 11:22 AM

Snowman
 
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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2129930)
an "evil eye" has no scientific meaning. Data, however, does ... The data shows that the earth has been in a slow cooling trend for the past 6 years.

i seem to remember being taught about multiple ice ages. Planet heats up, planet cools down. The rest is the sky is falling entrepreneurs who want to make trillions preaching this mantra when our own weather forecasters can't successfully predict to 100% 3 days out

cherylncliff 08-26-2022 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2129606)
Even though hurricanes can occur any month of the year, the official season is from June 1 through November 30. It's also interesting to note that for the last 6 years, the global "surface & ocean" temperature linear trend is down -- slight cooling -- as taken from NOAA data.

Sea surface temp is rising and has been rising for the last several decades

Climate Change Indicators: Sea Surface Temperature | US EPA

Keefelane66 08-26-2022 01:24 PM

I can fix any Hurricane with a Sharpie or fix it with a Nuclear Bomb. I sort of stole that statement.

Keefelane66 08-26-2022 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cherylncliff (Post 2130168)
Sea surface temp is rising and has been rising for the last several decades

Climate Change Indicators: Sea Surface Temperature | US EPA

I don’t know where John is getting his figures from “ According to NOAA's 2021 Annual Climate Report the combined land and ocean temperature has increased at an average rate of 0.14 degrees Fahrenheit ( 0.08 degrees Celsius) per decade since 1880; however, the average rate of increase since 1981 (0.18°C / 0.32°F) has been more than twice that rate.Jun 28, 2022” sometimes you can just make stuff up!

jimjamuser 08-26-2022 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dlbonivich (Post 2129864)
If you read a little about this year’s weather you would know that the Saharan Dust Storm is what is keeping the tropical patterns from forming this year.

The Sahara dust storms are over now. Now we are beginning to get topical waves coming off the coast of Africa. Same thing as from Irma in 2017. So, it's not over till it's over - that is...... the hurricane season. Too early to put away your MREs, water bottles, gas cans, and flashlights.

jimjamuser 08-26-2022 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AZ SLIM (Post 2129946)
What bugs me the most about this is the arrogance of our so called "Government Experts". I kept a newspaper article from a few months ago where they predicted an above average season. Then another article a few days ago where they tried to explain why there have been no hurricanes yet, but still going to be an above average season. They claim to be good at predicting seasonal weather, but why did they miss the prediction of the sandstorms along with sea temperature? Another example of government incompetent predictions and guidelines over the last few years. Why should anyone listen to anything the gov't "experts" say any longer? I worked for the feds for 30 years in a land management agency. Their decisions are rarely correct. Look at the huge wildfires now days. Totally a result of government bad predictions and decisions for 100 years.

I agree about "bad government decisions". I tend to think about the decision to encourage excess population.

jimjamuser 08-26-2022 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jammaiora (Post 2129975)
Hey "Know it All", how long have you lived in Florida? In September, 2017 The Villages got hit with a hurricane. September and October are the height of hurricanes for Florida. In addition, all weather patterns have drastically changed because of CLIMATE CHANGE/GLOBAL WARMING. Don't you look at global news on weather and the drought throughout the world, not to mention the flooding in cities and towns in areas of the US. You must be inhaling too much of your car's exhaust!

The long term 30 year forecast for the US is for record heat. Even record heat in Chicago and Wisconsin. And for sea level rise affecting coastal Florida and Annapolis, Maryland. That is for the next 30 years - you think this summer was HOT, just wait a few more years. If I were age 50 to 60, I would seriously consider selling here and moving somewhere further north or getting a summer home or spending the summer in an RV up north. Central Florida is no longer a great place to spend the summer! You can thank man-made Global Warming, pollution from IC engines, and over-population worldwide and in the US. And that's the TRUTH !

B-flat 08-26-2022 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by martinse (Post 2129461)
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it's not even worth responding.

d-i-t-t-o!!

B-flat 08-26-2022 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2129907)
The only reason the media mentions this is because to mention the other reasons blows a hole in the man-made global warming hoax. CO2 is plant food.

:bigbow:

Normal 08-26-2022 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2129417)
For the first time in 30 years -- no hurricanes at this date. It's amazing how well increasing CO2 has been decreasing tropical storm activity.

I’m thinking things are pretty good down here in Florida. Last winter was exceptional. Keep it up.

billethkid 08-26-2022 05:52 PM

Media/talking point parroting VS informed knowledge.

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DaleDivine 08-26-2022 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2130232)
I’m thinking things are pretty good down here in Florida. Last winter was exceptional. Keep it up.

:agree: :BigApplause::BigApplause:

midiwiz 08-27-2022 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2129417)
For the first time in 30 years -- no hurricanes at this date. It's amazing how well increasing CO2 has been decreasing tropical storm activity.

where is that icon..... hmmmm..... you know the one with the guy banging his head against the wall.....

jimkerr 08-27-2022 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2129417)
For the first time in 30 years -- no hurricanes at this date. It's amazing how well increasing CO2 has been decreasing tropical storm activity.

Another dumb post.

Vermilion Villager 08-27-2022 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2129643)
Yes, some is melting while others are growing, especially the ones the media ignores -- such as the Petermann glacier for one -- which is all discussed in the Village Weather Club. But more importantly, for the various solar generated heating cycles, there is a "lag" affect -- from months to years to centuries -- depending on the length of the solar cycle studied. The current "melting" is because we are still thawing out from the Little Ice Age -- plus the fish are liking it because they have more space to live in.

Anybody know where I can get my computer repaired? I just spilled my morning coffee on the keyboard laughing so hard!!!! :a20::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Vermilion Villager 08-27-2022 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2129643)
Yes, some is melting while others are growing, especially the ones the media ignores -- such as the Petermann glacier for one -- which is all discussed in the Village Weather Club. But more importantly, for the various solar generated heating cycles, there is a "lag" affect -- from months to years to centuries -- depending on the length of the solar cycle studied. The current "melting" is because we are still thawing out from the Little Ice Age -- plus the fish are liking it because they have more space to live in.

Really Sounding?!?!?!?! Maybe you all in the Village Weather Club/Flat Earth Society should take a look see at this then huh?? NASA - Ice Island Calves off Petermann Glacier.

jimjamuser 08-27-2022 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2130350)
Really Sounding?!?!?!?! Maybe you all in the Village Weather Club/Flat Earth Society should take a look see at this then huh?? NASA - Ice Island Calves off Petermann Glacier.

Yes! Dazzle them with REAL knowledge. Kudos!

kkingston57 08-27-2022 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Larchap49 (Post 2129918)
Not CO2 it is the sands blowing off the Sahara lowering the moisture content of the air coming off the African coast. Affecting weather world wide.

Without this being said on TV, this dust has appeared to me to be much worse this year. Several weeks ago, on a clear day, the sky looked more brown than blue.

jimjamuser 08-27-2022 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Worldseries27 (Post 2130125)
i seem to remember being taught about multiple ice ages. Planet heats up, planet cools down. The rest is the sky is falling entrepreneurs who want to make trillions preaching this mantra when our own weather forecasters can't successfully predict to 100% 3 days out

Ice ages are NOT meaningful in this situation. It is only in the last 50 years that man made POLLUTION from overpopulation and IC engines and other sources has been powerful enough to increase Global Warming. The NEXT 30 years are predicted to have RECORD heat in the US. That will cause lots of problems, such as owning beachfront property. This year, we are seeing insurance companies pulling out of Florida and raising rates. Insurance companies are VERY practical about their future predictions - they are NOT just crying WOLF for no good reason. Conclusion......man-made Global Warming is REAL !!!!!

Kenswing 08-27-2022 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2130407)
Ice ages are NOT meaningful in this situation. It is only in the last 50 years that man made POLLUTION from overpopulation and IC engines and other sources has been powerful enough to increase Global Warming. The NEXT 30 years are predicted to have RECORD heat in the US. That will cause lots of problems, such as owning beachfront property. This year, we are seeing insurance companies pulling out of Florida and raising rates. Insurance companies are VERY practical about their future predictions - they are NOT just crying WOLF for no good reason. Conclusion......man-made Global Warming is REAL !!!!!

Relax. Mother Nature is good at protecting herself. If she doesn't like what we're doing she'll just get rid of us. Nothing you can do about it. But I know how much you like to pontificate, so carry on..

jimjamuser 08-27-2022 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 2130412)
Relax. Mother Nature is good at protecting herself. If she doesn't like what we're doing she'll just get rid of us. Nothing you can do about it. But I know how much you like to pontificate, so carry on..

Some philosopher several centuries ago said that population will be controlled by wars and pestilence. Covid killed over one million people in the US recently. And the US is in a proxy war with Russia that could lead to a World War that could kill many more MILLIONS. Those factors could act to control population. Increased Global Warming predicted for the next 30 years could produce more and deadlier HURRICANES in the US and the world, effectively killing many more people. Global Warming could cause mass climate migration and the resulting clash of groups and nations - resulting in MORE deaths.

The psychology of the US state of the union can be seen in the fact that the last 3 or 4 US generations have stated a worry that their next, future generation will be less well off than they were. This is proof positive of US UNRESOLVED problems affecting society. Global Warming and potential increased destruction to life and property in Florida caused by HURRICANES are just TWO of the unresolved problems that US leaders have allowed to increase and fester. Problems that go back about 50 years or more. Outsourcing and willful destruction of unions have decimated the middle class and driven the US to the top position of wealth disparity among 1st world countries. The world AND our enemies see how weak the US has become. We used to lead, now we are sliding backwards.

MillerD 08-27-2022 05:19 PM

Season ends Nov 30th. Resident since 1969

Worldseries27 08-27-2022 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by millerd (Post 2130493)
season ends nov 30th. Resident since 1969

your sort of our adam/eve

Nucky 08-27-2022 09:23 PM

I'm just glad that a certain poster is not doing his Smokey the Bear duties in the area above the land of The Fruits & Nuts on the west coast.

If there was ever a bad subject to bring up at this time of the year then this would be it and the timing was just magnificent. Thanks for NOTHING! Hurricanes are not really the best subject to bring up although it is your right to do so!

Taltarzac725 08-27-2022 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2130444)
Some philosopher several centuries ago said that population will be controlled by wars and pestilence. Covid killed over one million people in the US recently. And the US is in a proxy war with Russia that could lead to a World War that could kill many more MILLIONS. Those factors could act to control population. Increased Global Warming predicted for the next 30 years could produce more and deadlier HURRICANES in the US and the world, effectively killing many more people. Global Warming could cause mass climate migration and the resulting clash of groups and nations - resulting in MORE deaths.

The psychology of the US state of the union can be seen in the fact that the last 3 or 4 US generations have stated a worry that their next, future generation will be less well off than they were. This is proof positive of US UNRESOLVED problems affecting society. Global Warming and potential increased destruction to life and property in Florida caused by HURRICANES are just TWO of the unresolved problems that US leaders have allowed to increase and fester. Problems that go back about 50 years or more. Outsourcing and willful destruction of unions have decimated the middle class and driven the US to the top position of wealth disparity among 1st world countries. The world AND our enemies see how weak the US has become. We used to lead, now we are sliding backwards.

People cannot seem to agree on the science so often little gets accomplished. Or two steps ahead and often four back.

ShaSha 08-27-2022 09:55 PM

Genius
 
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Originally Posted by Dlbonivich (Post 2129864)
If you read a little about this year’s weather you would know that the Saharan Dust Storm is what is keeping the tropical patterns from forming this year.

Yes. We read and we listen.
Lucky so far. September and October - fingers crossed!!!

ShaSha 08-27-2022 09:56 PM

Not worth time and trouble. Not even funny!!!

Taltarzac725 08-27-2022 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2130407)
Ice ages are NOT meaningful in this situation. It is only in the last 50 years that man made POLLUTION from overpopulation and IC engines and other sources has been powerful enough to increase Global Warming. The NEXT 30 years are predicted to have RECORD heat in the US. That will cause lots of problems, such as owning beachfront property. This year, we are seeing insurance companies pulling out of Florida and raising rates. Insurance companies are VERY practical about their future predictions - they are NOT just crying WOLF for no good reason. Conclusion......man-made Global Warming is REAL !!!!!

Weather News -- ScienceDaily

I do find the links that seem to be backed up with studies by reliable scholars better than some other resources.

Maybe we can dig for the best ones.

Woodbear 08-27-2022 11:26 PM

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The temperatures of this current inter-glacial period is amongst the lowest ever measured. The planet has been much warmer w/o man ever present. All anyone needs to know we live on a dynamic, ever-changing planet.

jimjamuser 08-28-2022 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodbear (Post 2130535)
The temperatures of this current inter-glacial period is amongst the lowest ever measured. The planet has been much warmer w/o man ever present. All anyone needs to know we live on a dynamic, ever-changing planet.

If people lived for 150,000 years, then this chart would be informative.

Taltarzac725 08-28-2022 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2130681)
If people lived for 150,000 years, then this chart would be informative.

That would be one long beard and the moustache would reach from Boston to Seattle if you were standing in Omaha .

Tyrone Shoelaces 08-28-2022 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2129417)
For the first time in 30 years -- no hurricanes at this date. It's amazing how well increasing CO2 has been decreasing tropical storm activity.

Jinx

asianthree 08-29-2022 07:24 AM

Next week looks like your concern of no named storms, May change.

So hang on to your hats, and get in your golf, before the tunnels are swamped, and the course is too wet.

Then get to the grocery and sweep the shelves :a040:

Tyrone Shoelaces 09-27-2022 09:42 AM

Reminds me of this clip. lol

https://youtu.be/v5N3fKVz-Z4?t=84

be careful what ya ask for.

sounding 09-27-2022 09:52 AM

While flaming cars are interesting -- this season's hurricane season is way below expectations -- which is partially because the earth has been cooling for the last 7 years. Worse yet, NOAA refuses to acknowledge that the Euro Model has been far more correct about Ian than the American GFS model -- this is because the American model still wrongly believes CO2 controls the climate. You can watch the Euro model out-perform the GFS via Windy.Com

Keefelane66 09-27-2022 12:15 PM

I saw about 10 different spaghetti models early this morning now about 5 approaching storm may hit between Ft Myers and Tampa.
No one's talking CO2 but you.

billethkid 09-27-2022 12:25 PM

Weather forecasting is as accurate as measuring clouds.

sounding 09-27-2022 01:04 PM

That's because the media has done a great job of hiding NOAA's suicidal belief that CO2 controls weather and climate. This is why the GFS has been very wrong on Ian, while the Euro model has been more accurate from the start. Here is some background about the failing GFS modeling system, which the media ignores -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvcoX2N2g1E


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