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perrjojo 07-05-2013 04:55 PM

Today's Daily Sun Article
 
Today's Daily Sun had a great article about the Mulit Modal Paths. The article reminded us that the multi modal paths are for ALL to enjoy....not just golf carts. The paths are for use by walkers, joggers, bicycles, segways, roller blades. Paths are NOT to be used by Smart Cars or motorcycles. The article also stressed the need for care and courtesy by all.

Just my 2 cents worth: Those on the path are our neighbors or friends and family of our neighbors. Some may be careless, rude, inconsiderate or just plain stupid, but they are our neighbors. Please treat all of our neighbors with the courtesy and respect that you would want. They all pay the same fees to use the paths as you! It's a beautiful day in The Villages...do your part to keep it beautiful.

Schaumburger 07-06-2013 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 703378)
Today's Daily Sun had a great article about the Mulit Modal Paths. The article reminded us that the multi modal paths are for ALL to enjoy....not just golf carts. The paths are for use by walkers, joggers, bicycles, segways, roller blades. Paths are NOT to be used by Smart Cars or motorcycles. The article also stressed the need for care and courtesy by all.

Just my 2 cents worth: Those on the path are our neighbors or friends and family of our neighbors. Some may be careless, rude, inconsiderate or just plain stupid, but they are our neighbors. Please treat all of our neighbors with the courtesy and respect that you would want. They all pay the same fees to use the paths as you! It's a beautiful day in The Villages...do your part to keep it beautiful.

I was able to read this article on the on-line edition of The Daily Sun. Agree with you -- it was a great article.

asianthree 07-06-2013 07:15 AM

so not for the suv...maybe this will help those who try to use them with their cars

DDoug 07-06-2013 07:25 AM

What about street legal carts and gem cars should they be on the path.Personally I dont think they should but whatever. Is'nt that why they wanted street legal so they didnt have to run the path.

aln 07-06-2013 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DDoug (Post 703557)
What about street legal carts and gem cars should they be on the path.Personally I dont think they should but whatever. Is'nt that why they wanted street legal so they didnt have to run the path.

They CANNOT use streets such as hwy 466. Street legal are only supposed to go 25 mph and not allowed on streets with speed limits above 35 mph.

SOOOOO yes they can and must use multi-modal paths in a case like that.

NotGolfer 07-06-2013 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 703378)
Today's Daily Sun had a great article about the Mulit Modal Paths. The article reminded us that the multi modal paths are for ALL to enjoy....not just golf carts. The paths are for use by walkers, joggers, bicycles, segways, roller blades. Paths are NOT to be used by Smart Cars or motorcycles. The article also stressed the need for care and courtesy by all.

Just my 2 cents worth: Those on the path are our neighbors or friends and family of our neighbors. Some may be careless, rude, inconsiderate or just plain stupid, but they are our neighbors. Please treat all of our neighbors with the courtesy and respect that you would want. They all pay the same fees to use the paths as you! It's a beautiful day in The Villages...do your part to keep it beautiful.

Well said!!!! Thank you for posting!! Also to the poster who doesn't want LSV's on the paths...they are entitled as well.

rubicon 07-06-2013 08:44 AM

The Daily Sun does have a way with marketing things. A multi-modal path that by its design places conflicting interests on the same pathway creating extraordinary hazards is well praised by said paper to be an engineering miracle.

perrjojo 07-06-2013 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 703604)
The Daily Sun does have a way with marketing things. A multi-modal path that by its design places conflicting interests on the same pathway creating extraordinary hazards is well praised by said paper to be an engineering miracle.

Don't worry, be happy!

memason 07-06-2013 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 703604)
The Daily Sun does have a way with marketing things. A multi-modal path that by its design places conflicting interests on the same pathway creating extraordinary hazards is well praised by said paper to be an engineering miracle.

You're joking, right? Everyone that visits me thinks those paths are the most amazing things they have ever seen

I certainly would not characterize the pathways as creating "extraordinary hazards" for anyone.

But hey, that's just me . . .

DonH57 07-06-2013 09:38 AM

I think the multi modal paths are great. I use them as much as possible to avoid the main roads and wish TV had more. I feel the only causes of hazards are careless operators. I see nothing wrong with the design of these paths. They are not perfect but better than nothing at all. If anything without these paths I think there would be many more car / cart accidents than there are now.

NotGolfer 07-06-2013 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DonH57 (Post 703647)
I think the multi modal paths are great. I use them as much as possible to avoid the main roads and wish TV had more. I feel the only causes of hazards are careless operators. I see nothing wrong with the design of these paths. They are not perfect but better than nothing at all. If anything without these paths I think there would be many more car / cart accidents than there are now.

It's the drivers who make the paths hazardous, I agree with the quote above! My brother lives in AZ where there aren't these paths and the golf-carts share the streets with automobiles....he says it's horrible!!! We're blessed to have such a wonderful community where the Morse family has had a great vision to make it so for us!! I'm amazed at the folks who have nothing but "sour grapes" attitudes but still will say "...but I LOVE the life-style". That seems like an oxymoron to me.

Villages PL 07-06-2013 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 703378)
Today's Daily Sun had a great article about the Mulit Modal Paths. The article reminded us that the multi modal paths are for ALL to enjoy....not just golf carts. The paths are for use by walkers, joggers, bicycles, segways, roller blades. Paths are NOT to be used by Smart Cars or motorcycles. The article also stressed the need for care and courtesy by all.

Just my 2 cents worth: Those on the path are our neighbors or friends and family of our neighbors. Some may be careless, rude, inconsiderate or just plain stupid, but they are our neighbors. Please treat all of our neighbors with the courtesy and respect that you would want. They all pay the same fees to use the paths as you! It's a beautiful day in The Villages...do your part to keep it beautiful.

If you pass someone on a bicycle, do you have to stay 3' away? And if you pass someone walking, do you have to do the same? If an LSV goes 30 m.p.h. on a path and passes someone walking, how much room should they leave? I would consider it a threat to life and limb to have a fast moving LSV pass close to me while I'm walking.

Bogie Shooter 07-06-2013 11:50 AM

If there was nothing in the Daily Sun about safety on the paths.........the same folks would be bitching about the paper never saying anythig!
They are never happy...........must be a sad life.

Lbmb24101 07-06-2013 11:52 AM

:lipsrsealed:These paths is THE MAIN REASON we bought in The Villages!
They are amazing!
What other part of the world has these?

People think of Peachtree City, Ga, which yes, has golf cart mobility.
But Ptree City can not even begin to compare w TV!!!

perrjojo 07-06-2013 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 703710)
If you pass someone on a bicycle, do you have to stay 3' away? And if you pass someone walking, do you have to do the same? If an LSV goes 30 m.p.h. on a path and passes someone walking, how much room should they leave? I would consider it a threat to life and limb to have a fast moving LSV pass close to me while I'm walking.

:rant-rave:
I believe the article said use care and courtesy...Nuff said!

Bogie Shooter 07-06-2013 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 703719)
:rant-rave:
I believe the article said use care and courtesy...Nuff said!

I agree!

Villages PL 07-06-2013 12:01 PM

Too, it's a sad life for those who have nothing better to do than bitch about those who have questions about safety.

Villages PL 07-06-2013 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 703719)
:rant-rave:
I believe the article said use care and courtesy...Nuff said!

It's not enough said: The problem is that many drivers don't seen to realize that coming close to a walker is not using "care and courtesy." It seems that someone needs to tell them.

ilovetv 07-06-2013 12:18 PM

Would somebody notify the woman who walks on the multi-modal trail, in the right hand side with her back to carts etc coming up behind her, that it is extremely dangerous to have her eyes buried in the book she is reading and engrossed in while walking?

She was totally oblivious to cart and other traffic that could hit her accidentally.

I couldn't tell her when I saw her twice because I was passing by in my car on the regular street. This was on Morse Blvd. between Havana and Bonita Blvd.

Yes, she is a TV neighbor and deserves to use the multi-modal path, but sometimes walkers are not visible when a cart driver comes round a curve or to the top of an incline and suddenly, you're upon them--possibly too late. Or they are wearing dull/dark colored clothing that's hard to see.

HMLRHT1 07-06-2013 12:53 PM

First I would like to say that LSV's that are using the multi-modal paths are not to do over 20 mph. They can go 25mph when they r in the street. But even carts do more than 20 on the paths. Also when walking on the paths the pedestrian should remember to walk against traffic so they can see the carts, bikes or whatever and we can see them. It's for their own safety.

DonH57 07-06-2013 01:40 PM

One time when travelling in the southbound cart lane on Morse I came up upon a lady walking same direction, with headphones blaring music, and reading a book I waited for cars to pass and signalled to pass going around her, she gave me the dirtiest look. I gave her plenty of space so I don't know what her problem was other than not being aware of her surroundings like she should have been.

Bogie Shooter 07-06-2013 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 703727)
It's not enough said: The problem is that many drivers don't seen to realize that coming close to a walker is not using "care and courtesy." It seems that someone needs to tell them.

RE: Daily Sun article.

perrjojo 07-06-2013 02:35 PM

I believe these drivers certainly DO know that their actions are not careful or courteous but they fall into the second category I mentioned...careless, rude, inconsiderate or just plan stupid. As Ron White says, "you can't fix stupid".

rubicon 07-06-2013 02:43 PM

The political correct crowd is at it again. Offer a different opinion about a TV feature and your a miserable so and so. Well like all politically correct responses like your a racist, et al you lost your argument because you have no argument. I may or I may be not be happy which has nothing to do with my comments made regarding the cart paths. My comments expressed the fact that Ï didn't just fall out of a tree." Apparently many people do not recognize the ever present hazards. Golf carts going in excess of 19.9mph rounding corners too fast or driving on the wrong side of the path. Carts going too slow and many carts committing unsafe passing because their impatient. Walkers at dawn or dusk in dark clothing with no reflectors or lights. Golf cart drivers who are ignorant of the fact that if a walker or bike is in their lane of traffic and there is an oncoming cart , etc that they have to come to a stop because the obstruction is in their path.

So before you call any one a constant complainer or whatever... you might want to learn the Rules of the Road, consider the width of the pathways, and calculate the combination and permutations of possible serious consequences they create because of their design. Now go back to your kool aide

perrjojo 07-06-2013 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 703807)
The political correct crowd is at it again. Offer a different opinion about a TV feature and your a miserable so and so. Well like all politically correct responses like your a racist, et al you lost your argument because you have no argument. I may or I may be not be happy which has nothing to do with my comments made regarding the cart paths. My comments expressed the fact that Ï didn't just fall out of a tree." Apparently many people do not recognize the ever present hazards. Golf carts going in excess of 19.9mph rounding corners too fast or driving on the wrong side of the path. Carts going too slow and many carts committing unsafe passing because their impatient. Walkers at dawn or dusk in dark clothing with no reflectors or lights. Golf cart drivers who are ignorant of the fact that if a walker or bike is in their lane of traffic and there is an oncoming cart , etc that they have to come to a stop because the obstruction is in their path.

So before you call any one a constant complainer or whatever... you might want to learn the Rules of the Road, consider the width of the pathways, and calculate the combination and permutations of possible serious consequences they create because of their design. Now go back to your kool aide

I doubt anyone disagrees that there are problem drivers, walkers, cyclist, etc., nor do they disagree that there are hazards on the paths. There are also hazards on our roads and other places because of these same careless and inconsiderate people. BTW, my you can't fix stupid was directed at those who should and probably do know the "rules"but somehow don't think rules apply to them. It seems to me that the main intent of the article was to remind us that we should try to make the paths as safe as possible for ALL who use them. Now I'm off to have a nice tall glass of Kool Aid...:wave:

Mimivillager 07-06-2013 03:16 PM

Hubby and I were driving our golf cart on the path along 466 and met up with 2 walkers who would not share the path. He said they were almost run over 3 times that morning. We completely stopped and they yelled at us for not sharing.

perrjojo 07-06-2013 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mimivillager (Post 703823)
Hubby and I were driving our golf cart on the path along 466 and met up with 2 walkers who would not share the path. He said they were almost run over 3 times that morning. We completely stopped and they yelled at us for not sharing.

Can't cure stupid...but they are your neighbors...he he!

memason 07-06-2013 03:42 PM

It's ironic that none of the stupid, unfixable people are posters on TOTV. If they did post [or read], they might know how stupid they really are...

rubicon 07-06-2013 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 703819)
I doubt anyone disagrees that there are problem drivers, walkers, cyclist, etc., nor do they disagree that there are hazards on the paths. There are also hazards on our roads and other places because of these same careless and inconsiderate people. BTW, my you can't fix stupid was directed at those who should and probably do know the "rules"but somehow don't think rules apply to them. It seems to me that the main intent of the article was to remind us that we should try to make the paths as safe as possible for ALL who use them. Now I'm off to have a nice tall glass of Kool Aid...:wave:

The kool aid comment was unnecessary Mi spiace ma (I'm sorry) but it seems to me to leave people exposed because of poor planning ,etc and then ask them to be safe is well disingenuous.

perrjojo 07-06-2013 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 703843)
The kool aid comment was unnecessary Mi spiace ma (I'm sorry) but it seems to me to leave people exposed because of poor planning ,etc and then ask them to be safe is well disingenuous.

hey, the Kool Aid comment was a just kidding kinda thing. I'm sorry if you felt it offensive..I guess this is one of those times when then written word did not relate quite like the spoken word with a smile attached might. Again, no offense meant.


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