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Old 04-20-2016, 09:21 AM
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You want figures to support the argument? No need. Just ask anyone that has insurance how much they pay for it now. My daughter has private insurance and the deductible went up thousands of bucks. I don't have deductible and my premiums went up 20+%, my hospital copay went up 50%, doctor's copay went up 20% and my wife's prescriptions went up 20%. How many still do not have health insurance? How many are being counted as having insurance now that didn't need or want it before? How many lost their insurance and had to use ObummerCare to get new coverage, due to a gov mandate that they purchase a service (Unconstitutional regardless of Supreme Court decision)?
United Health Care has just dropped out of ACA because of it's huge losses. Obummercare is stealing half a trillion bucks from Medicare to help subsidize it's huge expense.

So, liberals can pat themselves on their backs for ObummerCare all they wish but all the while they are ignoring reality.


ObummerCare figures are being falsified just like the real unemployment numbers, and liberals are so full of cr@p that their eyes are clouded and reality is "teen mothers" and "dancing with the has beens."
That is right. When numbers don't support your argument ignore the numbers. You think that insurance companies weren't raising their rates at a much higher number than inflation than in the past! Then, you didn't live in the real world. Again, take a damn good look at the charts provided on a previous post that shows you the rate of increases before the ACA.

I dealt with health insurance companies, when I was in the real world. We went from having the best plan that BCBS had to either a PPO, or an HMO. The rates increased 19.3%, 12.5%, and 17.9% over a three year period. Over a 15 year period, they never increased less than 7%. Take a look at the first post in the thread, he gives the impression that insurance companies raising their rates is something new.

How many people that don't have insurance are in Republican controlled states that did everything they could to make sure the ACA failed? Many people in these Southern states the uninsured would qualify for Medicaid under the ACA. Most of the cost for these people would be picked up by the federal government. That didn't stop these states from crying poor mouth. Did it? When your hatred for Obama trumps the welfare of your citizens, you really have something wrong with you.

Nobody needs health insurance until something happens to them, and then they do. Need! What is your definition of the word "insurance".

How many people lost their health insurance, because their former plans were just plain garbage? Most of these people got better plans at a cheaper rate.

The ACA isn't perfect, but it the problems won't be corrected. As soon as there is an attempt to correct the problems "repel and replace", there will be no replacement. Anybody with a brain in their head knows this no matter how many times Republicans parrot the phrase "repeal and replace". So, we have to live with a flawed law.

Reality! You want to know reality? Well, here it is. The Supreme Court has ruled that the ACA is constitutional, but you are stating that the ACA is unconstitutional, because the Supreme Court doesn't know what it is talking about. We should listen to you! Why