My head is spinning trying to follow the logic of many of the Posters on this area of TOTV .

Some people seem to be arguing both for and against the same issue .

When someone presents data -- hard data from a credible site all the Polar Opposite does is just dismiss the data over and over again .
It`s impossible to have a constructive discussion here . It`s just food-fights and name calling .
What`s the point ? It`s an out of control Birthday Party for 9 year old boys .