[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Which of course, was the 'ludicrous reasoning' behind what amounted to the attempted genocide...of the native Americans already living here.





Conveniently ignoring that this is by far, the most significant country in history...to have been made almost entirely by immigrants.



That is an outright lie, that even the most naive person...realizes as such.

One only has to read the plethora of posts...proving you wrong.

In fact, there are about 32% (depending on the weekly poll), of people who would prefer not to have any of a certain religion immigrate here.

A recent election was won, by preying on the fear of being killed by something/someone that is thousands of times less likely to kill you...than heart disease, obesity, driving vehicles, etc.

Those facts, in and of themselves...shows how wrong your statement is.

Besides a massive prejudice toward a certain religion, what do you suppose could be the reason people are so afraid of dying from someone of that religion even when their odds are so much less...than the other causes I've listed?


Since I've already eviscerated the premise of your argument, let's move on to my previous question, of which you dodged, on why the predominately Muslim country that supplied most of the 9/11 perpetrators...was not on the list?

A person would have to be a fool, not to think that economic ties of certain people...wasn't the driving reason behind the choices of the predominately Muslim countries that didn't make the list.


I agreed above with this.

What I want to know, is how the accuracy of these background checks can be trusted?

Politics, power and those in the upper echelons of our government/private citizenry will have an outsize say in these choices...just as it has always been.


You do mean except for Oklahoma, Columbine, Charleston, Sandy Hook, Aurora, etc.....right?

What did all of those have in common?

Most Of America’s Terrorists Are White, And Not Muslim | HuffPost




Speaking of being ludicrous.

We shouldn't ignore ANY threat, but some people only choose to acknowledge the ones...that fit their own bias'.

Which of course, was the 'ludicrous reasoning' behind what amounted to the attempted genocide...of the native Americans already living here.

The genocide of the native American people is a separate discussion from illegal immigration. The point is that the first Europeans that came here did not break any immigration laws because there were no immigration laws. If you want to have a discussion, please try to stay on topic and don't introduce extraneous information.

Conveniently ignoring that this is by far, the most significant country in history...to have been made almost entirely by immigrants.

No one is ignoring anything. Again, you've taken the subject from ILLEGAL immigration to legal immigration which has made this country great and hopefully will continue to do so. We have 11 million people in this country illegally. Do you not think that this is a problem?

That is an outright lie, that even the most naive person...realizes as such.

One only has to read the plethora of posts...proving you wrong.

In fact, there are about 32% (depending on the weekly poll), of people who would prefer not to have any of a certain religion immigrate here.

A recent election was won, by preying on the fear of being killed by something/someone that is thousands of times less likely to kill you...than heart disease, obesity, driving vehicles, etc.

Those facts, in and of themselves...shows how wrong your statement is.

Besides a massive prejudice toward a certain religion, what do you suppose could be the reason people are so afraid of dying from someone of that religion even when their odds are so much less...than the other causes I've listed?

Well, it's not a lie, but you make a good point. I should never use terms like no one or everyone or always or never. Most people realize that these terms are usually not meant literally.

The vast majority of people are not against legal immigration. The election of President Trump had very little to do with preying on fear and a desire to turn our country around and get rid of career politicians.
Are you saying that the fact that we can be killed by things other than terrorism, means that we should ignore the threat of terrorism? Should we not enforce laws against drunk driving because we are more likely to die of heart disease?
Of course, there is prejudice against Muslims. There is also prejudice against African Americans and Italian Americans, Jews and Irish Americans. There is prejudice against every group. However, most institutional discrimination based on race, religion, gender or sexual preference has been deemed to be illegal by our laws. That doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. it means that people break the law. But I disagree with your characterization that there is massive prejudice against Muslims.

Since I've already eviscerated the premise of your argument, let's move on to my previous question, of which you dodged, on why the predominately Muslim country that supplied most of the 9/11 perpetrators...was not on the list?

A person would have to be a fool, not to think that economic ties of certain people...wasn't the driving reason behind the choices of the predominately Muslim countries that didn't make the list.

As I've pointed out, you haven't eviscerated any of the points that I've made. As to why Saudi Arabia is not on the list, you'd have to ask the members of the Obama administration that came up with the list. Maybe it's because 9/11 was only one attack, albeit a huge one, there have not been any attackers from that country since.

I agreed above with this.

What I want to know, is how the accuracy of these background checks can be trusted?

Politics, power and those in the upper echelons of our government/private citizenry will have an outsize say in these choices...just as it has always been.

I agree politics and power play way to big of a role in our government. That is why it is so important to elect leaders that are not prefessional politicians. It's time to sweep out Congress, institute term limits and return us to a citiozen government. The longer people are in office, the more powerful they become.

You do mean except for Oklahoma, Columbine, Charleston, Sandy Hook, Aurora, etc.....right?

What did all of those have in common?

What they all had in common with the exception of possibly Oklahoma, is they were not attacks against our country for the purposes of influencing politics. I've heard this argument many times and I think that the people who make it need to look up the definition of terrorism.

Speaking of being ludicrous.

We shouldn't ignore ANY threat, but some people only choose to acknowledge the ones...that fit their own bias'.

So what threats are we ignoring? What threats to our nation exist?