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Originally Posted by DianeM

Thank you. I said this on another forum earlier and they jumped on me like white on rice.

No what you said on another thread was this

Originally Posted by DianeM
New York is marking anyone who dies as corona related death

But Queasy said

probable" deaths, as opposed to only those that were confirmed through testing

You said anyone who died is listed as corona, Queasy correctly says only those deaths where corona is a probable cause. Huge difference. That's why you got "jumped on"

NY, as I posted earlier and you choose to dismiss, is following the CDC's instructions for completing death certificates. In an environment where there are way too few COVID test kits available the question becomes, if a person dies with cough and pneumonia with disease symptoms consistent with COVID but they did not have a test done either because one was not available or they did not have an opportunity to be tested prior to their death, Should that death certificate indicated COVID as a contributing cause of death? A reasonable person would say, of course.

The CDC wants probable COVID related deaths to be reported. Tests are not being wasted on dead people. It is also well recognized that there are significant numbers of false negative tests in people who have the disease.

NY is not manipulating the data, they are conforming to what should be a national standard as articulated by the CDC.

No agency is faking death records in NY.

Here are the applicable lines, read the whole document to increase your understanding

"In cases where a definite diagnosis of COVID–19 cannot be made, but it is suspected or likely (e.g., the circumstances are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty), it is acceptable to report COVID–19 on a death certificate as “probable” or “presumed.” In these instances, certifiers should use their best clinical judgement in determining if a COVID–19 infection was likely"