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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby
So far, we DO have deaths from people positive for COVID-19 that are PROVEN to have been caused by COVID-19. There are also lots of people who died, who had COVID, but did not have COVID deaths. Such as some guy with no symptoms, who fell down the stairs and broke his neck. That doesn't get counted as a COVID death even if he had COVID.
We do NOT have deaths from people who were vaccinated that were PROVEN to have been caused by the vaccine.
I don't see any conflict here at all.
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And we never will have deaths that were PROVEN to have been caused by the vaccine.
To be clear, Covid is bad and the vaccine is good. Even if 500 deaths is believable then there have been 500 deaths associated with the vaccine but nearly 1,000 times more associated with the virus. I much prefer the odds with the vaccine.
We will never have deaths proven to be caused by the vaccine because it is important that the vaccine be seen as safe to be accepted by as many people as possible. There can be NO doubt about the vaccine, it MUST be safe, no questions asked. Any death, no matter how closely associated with the vaccine, will be determined to have been caused by some underlying condition. A vaccination may have occurred immediately before the death, but the cause of death will be the underlying condition. There can be NO doubt about the vaccine, it MUST be safe.
(Similarly, if the virus can be associated with a death then the death will be caused by the virus. It is important that the virus be seen as a public health emergency. There can be NO doubt that the virus is killing people. And honestly, 450,000+ excess deaths is pretty good evidence that it is)