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coffeebean 02-05-2021 02:03 PM

Coming Soon - The Vaccine Passport
 
This is a great article about what is in our future for proof of vaccination and/or negative test for Covid......

Coming Soon: The ‘Vaccine Passport’ - The New York Times

golfing eagles 02-05-2021 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1897835)
This is a great article about what is in our future for proof of vaccination and/or negative test for Covid......

Coming Soon: The ‘Vaccine Passport’ - The New York Times

So, where is our "vaccine passport" for tuberculosis, dengue, rubella, poliomyelitis, trypanosomiasis, and visceral larva migrans????? I thought so. Just another example of how a minor player in the world of infectious disease has blossomed into a full blown phobia. .....and don't forget your mask:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

OrangeBlossomBaby 02-05-2021 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1897838)
So, where is our "vaccine passport" for tuberculosis, dengue, rubella, poliomyelitis, trypanosomiasis, and visceral larva migrans????? I thought so. Just another example of how a minor player in the world of infectious disease has blossomed into a full blown phobia. .....and don't forget your mask:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

There are some countries that won't let you in without proof of certain immunizations (such as malaria). I think it'd be a great idea, streamline all your paperwork, if you could submit that proof whenever you get/renew your passport, and it'd add the notation on the inside of the back page.

Any proof that needs to be more current, you could submit the proof, and they'd mark it on your current passport for future use.

Bill14564 02-05-2021 03:16 PM

A silly speculation piece answering questions that haven't been asked about something that hasn't (and hopefully won't ever) come to pass.

OpusX1 02-05-2021 03:18 PM

Already exists. If you travel to Many places in S. America and most places in Africa you have to have a Yellow Fever vaccination. I am sure other vaccines are required for many places.

golfing eagles 02-05-2021 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1897842)
There are some countries that won't let you in without proof of certain immunizations (such as malaria). I think it'd be a great idea, streamline all your paperwork, if you could submit that proof whenever you get/renew your passport, and it'd add the notation on the inside of the back page.

Any proof that needs to be more current, you could submit the proof, and they'd mark it on your current passport for future use.

It's one way to go. IMHO it's more fascist than democratic, but it's a new world.
PS: there is no immunization for malaria, you have to take chloroquine prophylactically for 2 weeks prior to departure and 4 weeks after return. (Or an alternative drug if travelling to a chloroquine resistant area)

OpusX1 02-05-2021 03:27 PM

I’m not sure if the yellow fever vaccine is required by the country your visiting or required by the US in order to get back in.

dhdallas 02-05-2021 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1897838)
So, where is our "vaccine passport" for tuberculosis, dengue, rubella, poliomyelitis, trypanosomiasis, and visceral larva migrans????? I thought so. Just another example of how a minor player in the world of infectious disease has blossomed into a full blown phobia. .....and don't forget your mask:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:


I agree 100%!
Well said!

blueash 02-05-2021 07:27 PM

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If you travel to Many places in S. America and most places in Africa you have to have a Yellow Fever vaccination. I am sure other vaccines are required for many places.
I’m not sure if the yellow fever vaccine is required by the country your visiting or required by the US in order to get back in.
Google, a well known search engine, is available to answer your question and fill in your gaps in knowledge. Countries that require yellow fever vaccine:

Angola
Burundi
Cameroon
Central African Republic
Congo, Republic of
Cote d'Ivoire (Ivory Coast)
Democratic Republic of Congo
French Guiana
Gabon
Ghana
Guinea-Bissau
Liberia
Mali
*****
Sierra Leone
Togo
Uganda

All but one of these countries are in Africa so "many places in South America" is inaccurate. There are 17 African nations that require yellow fever vaccine, and there are 54 to 56 countries in Africa depending on the classification of two disputed territories. So it is also inaccurate to write that "most" countries in Africa require vaccination. There are some additional nations that require vaccination if you are coming from a country where yellow fever is endemic.

While you are sure that other vaccines are required for many places, that is also incorrect. The only other travel vaccine that is required is meningococcal if you are going to Saudi Arabia for the Hajj or Umrah pilgrimage

I apologize if this post seems harsh, but there is so much misinformation that is posted on TOTV that perhaps the occasional vigorous fact check will get this place to be more reality focused.

blueash 02-05-2021 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1897838)
So, where is our "vaccine passport" for tuberculosis, dengue, rubella, poliomyelitis, trypanosomiasis, and visceral larva migrans????? I thought so. Just another example of how a minor player in the world of infectious disease has blossomed into a full blown phobia. .....and don't forget your mask:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

I do love good sarcasm, but some people actually might think you are serious when you posted this. There is no effective vaccine for TB, While there is a vaccine for Dengue it is of low benefit and those who receive it are prone to severe dengue if they are infected. Rubella is a trivial illness other than its teratogenic risk. Polio is under excellent control internationally with vaccination being the major reason for its near elimination.
There is no vaccine for trypanosomiasis nor larva migrans. On the other hand, Covid in 2020 is the world's 6th leading cause of death and would certainly be higher if there hadn't been a vigorous effort to try to contain its spread.

For historical perspective, the worst year in the US for deaths from polio was 1952 when 3145 people died. In Florida alone we have now had over 27,000 deaths from Covid. There have been many single days where the deaths from Covid in the US have been greater than the deaths in the entire year from Polio in its worst year.

To trivialize Covid as just another illness ignores all the science, epidemiology, and over 400,000 dead Americans. We have lost more Americans in one year to Covid than the total deaths of Americans in WW 2. Nobody seems to think those deaths were trivial or should be mocked. More Americans died from Covid in December than during the entire Vietnam war.

Some people don't find a disease that is the 6th leading cause of death, the leading infectious disease cause of death in the world in 2020, and one that kills more people than wars did to be "a minor player"

golfing eagles 02-05-2021 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 1897944)
I do love good sarcasm, but some people actually might think you are serious when you posted this. There is no effective vaccine for TB, While there is a vaccine for Dengue it is of low benefit and those who receive it are prone to severe dengue if they are infected. Rubella is a trivial illness other than its teratogenic risk. Polio is under excellent control internationally with vaccination being the major reason for its near elimination.
There is no vaccine for trypanosomiasis nor larva migrans. On the other hand, Covid in 2020 is the world's 6th leading cause of death and would certainly be higher if there hadn't been a vigorous effort to try to contain its spread.

For historical perspective, the worst year in the US for deaths from polio was 1952 when 3145 people died. In Florida alone we have now had over 27,000 deaths from Covid. There have been many single days where the deaths from Covid in the US have been greater than the deaths in the entire year from Polio in its worst year.

To trivialize Covid as just another illness ignores all the science, epidemiology, and over 400,000 dead Americans. We have lost more Americans in one year to Covid than the total deaths of Americans in WW 2. Nobody seems to think those deaths were trivial or should be mocked. More Americans died from Covid in December than during the entire Vietnam war.

Some people don't find a disease that is the 6th leading cause of death, the leading infectious disease cause of death in the world in 2020, and one that kills more people than wars did to be "a minor player"

Compare it with smallpox over the last 500 years or Yersinia pestis, or even Spanish flu 100 years ago-----It may be a predominant infectious disease today, but in the scheme of things----A MINOR PLAYER!

By the way, the 8th leading cause of death in the US year after year in the last 40 years is-----wait for it-----seasonal flu.

pdmarc1 02-06-2021 05:54 AM

500 people in the United States have died so far after taking covid vaccines. See children's defense health fund vaccine site Robert Kennedy who is against pushing vaccines that are not needed. This information was posted on the Lew Rockwell website. For more information about vaccines see Dr Mercola website. The mainstream media is saying the people that died was from some other cause. Hank Aaron got the vaccines and then he was dead. His health was good. The same with the Miami Doctor. I am the same age at 56. There is no doubt the vaccine killed him. But it is your choice to take that chance, you cannot sue the vaccine makers if you get injured or your loved ones cant sue if you die.

The latest news is also that a woman in Virginia 58 years old and a man in California who was pro-vaccine and excited to take them have died yesterday after receiving the first dose of covid vaccines.

Please be careful Dr Mercola said these vaccines comprise PEG (polyethylene glycol) nanoparticles (particles the size of 10-9 meters smaller than colloidal at 10-6 meters) that cause allergic reaction and anaphlactic shock and death. The smaller the particle size the greater the reactivity so the PEG nanoparticles react quickly. Yes, PEG the same ingredient in antifreeze is in your vaccine despite the loud denials of the people distributing it. Do not risk death and take this vaccine, it does not stop covid.
I am 56 years old and have a masters in engineering from GWU and did the research and am not taking any vaccines because they are not animal tested, and it is not proven safe. You are no more than a guinea pig for the US government. I worked for the US government as an engineer for 30 years. Please do the work and research yourself before you rush to get these injections. I do not want to hear of people in our Villages community passing away from something that could have been avoided.

jack.hunter00@yahoo.com 02-06-2021 05:59 AM

Covid Passport
 
I have gotten both of my shots.

coffeebean 02-06-2021 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by pdmarc1 (Post 1897980)
500 people in the United States have died so far after taking covid vaccines. See children's defense health fund vaccine site Robert Kennedy who is against pushing vaccines that are not needed. This information was posted on the Lew Rockwell website. For more information about vaccines see Dr Mercola website. The mainstream media is saying the people that died was from some other cause. Hank Aaron got the vaccines and then he was dead. His health was good. The same with the Miami Doctor. I am the same age at 56. There is no doubt the vaccine killed him. But it is your choice to take that chance, you cannot sue the vaccine makers if you get injured or your loved ones cant sue if you die.

The latest news is also that a woman in Virginia 58 years old and a man in California who was pro-vaccine and excited to take them have died yesterday after receiving the first dose of covid vaccines.

Please be careful Dr Mercola said these vaccines comprise PEG (polyethylene glycol) nanoparticles (particles the size of 10-9 meters smaller than colloidal at 10-6 meters) that cause allergic reaction and anaphlactic shock and death. The smaller the particle size the greater the reactivity so the PEG nanoparticles react quickly. Yes, PEG the same ingredient in antifreeze is in your vaccine despite the loud denials of the people distributing it. Do not risk death and take this vaccine, it does not stop covid.
I am 56 years old and have a masters in engineering from GWU and did the research and am not taking any vaccines because they are not animal tested, and it is not proven safe. You are no more than a guinea pig for the US government. I worked for the US government as an engineer for 30 years. Please do the work and research yourself before you rush to get these injections. I do not want to hear of people in our Villages community passing away from something that could have been avoided.

First of all....Dr. Mercola is a quack so I take everything he says with a grain of salt.

Fact-check: No link between COVID-19 vaccines and those who die after receiving them - ABC News

PugMom 02-06-2021 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1897855)
It's one way to go. IMHO it's more fascist than democratic, but it's a new world.
PS: there is no immunization for malaria, you have to take chloroquine prophylactically for 2 weeks prior to departure and 4 weeks after return. (Or an alternative drug if travelling to a chloroquine resistant area)

:bigbow: welcome to Big Brother


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