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Originally Posted by BrianL99
There is no "overlapping flight paths" or "interlapping flights". What's an "executive civilian" ?
The airspace in that area is well known and specific. This crash will mostly likely end up being attributed to simple human error. Based on the current information, the Blackhawk was in the wrong place and erroneously informed ATC that they had the CRJ in view.
That BH was manned by 3 professionals, at least 2 of which were qualified pilots. To mis-identify a commercial aircraft under those circumstances, is inexcusable. ATC and both aircraft should have received a CA warning (Collision Avoidance) and both ATC & the BH should have taken immediate action. It appears the CRJ was exactly where it was supposed to be and not in a position to take evasive action. Also, with a Separation Error of that magnitude, there was likely a audible warning in the tower (at least that's how it used to work.)
In my opinion, all this noise about the "system", is simply that ... noise. The system usually works perfectly fine, it's the people who fail. ATC for assuming the BH pilots actually had the CRJ in view (even though he had a CA warning) and the BH pilots for not being vigilant.
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It’s not noise, people are tired of the Airline industry’s poor performance. This time people died.
I flew to MCO from Newark on 12/28 and it was the strangest of all my past experiences. I have been delayed many times, rerouted to different cities, like Buffalo and held over. This time we were told to keep all the shades down for the entire flight. The flight was delayed 40 minutes to put needed supplies through the back of the plane. The flight could not take off without these “supplies”. We were asked to check our carry ons. Then the flight was delayed on the runways because there was too much traffic. The shades were not allowed to be opened at any time. Airline delays and cancellations are the normal now.
This was not the case 3 years ago when I moved to The Villages. Next rime I go to NY I’m taking a roomette on Amtrak. I am about done with flying.
I don’t know what the problems are, but there are problems. Time for the airline industry to make changes because what is happening now is inexcusable.