Originally Posted by Xavier

There may be genuine reasons to have a National ID system, but it would have to be phased in over a reasonable length of time. Many of my Democratic/Liberal friends may have a problem with this, but I don't. In my opinion, fraudulent voting is not a serious issue. To hurry it up is a serious issue. I will be opened minded about it and this is an opportunity for my mind to be changed by facts. Please link recent (last two decades) credible data by state that says otherwise. By credible data, I not talking about some one's opinion. Documented facts would do just fine. MSNBC nor Fox need to apply!

The real problem appears to be winning an election this year for the Conservatives/GOP. If your candidates aren't viable, keeping Democratic/Liberal voters away from the polls is a major benefit toward that end. If it can't be won on it's merits - change the rules (I exchanged "change the rules" with the word "cheat").

Xavier

Originally Posted by Xavier

A 2006 report of a five year probe put out of the US Justice Department (Bush's Justice Department) found a total of 53 voter fraud convictions nationwide. That's 53 over a five year period. This is what I'm talking about when I ask for links for credible data.

It's 5MB file: Click Here

Xavier

Originally Posted by Xavier

How many of the states that have or are now pushing through these potentially voter disenfranchising ID laws have Democrat Governors? Knowing this information might just give you the idea of why some are looking at their ulterior motives.

53 convictions nationwide over a 5 year period! (see my post above) Is it right to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands to catch the small number that break the rules? Yeah, we don't want them to get away with it, but can't we be reasonable and put together something nationwide in a well thought out plan?

Xavier

Originally Posted by Xavier

I find absolutely nothing laughable about the 2000 or 2004 Presidential elections. I do find it totally laughable when some dipstick goes out of his way to punk someone to enhance their political stance when the problem is so minuscule.

Xavier