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Guest 04-09-2012 10:02 AM

Voter ID? Are you in favor of it or not?
 
If yes we could assume one believes there is a voter fraud problem that needs to be solved.

If you are against voter ID tell us why.

It has been known for way too many years about how much voter fraud there is in this country. I 100% am in favor of voter ID. What possible rationale could there be against the requirement?

The only reason for elected officials to be against voter ID is keeping their constituency from being upset....the ones who do not want to follow the rules and I will leave it open....for a number of reasons....none of which are valid to strike down voter ID.

Just another example of a simple problem made complex by the political impact. I suggest the politicians do something unique....do what is right for once....stand and be counted. The majority after all would be with them.

btk

Guest 04-09-2012 10:06 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 477136)
If yes we could assume one believes there is a voter fraud problem that needs to be solved.

If you are against voter ID tell us why.

It has been known for way too many years about how much voter fraud there is in this country. I 100% am in favor of voter ID. What possible rationale could there be against the requirement?

The only reason for elected officials to be against voter ID is keeping their constituency from being upset....the ones who do not want to follow the rules and I will leave it open....for a number of reasons....none of which are valid to strike down voter ID.

Just another example of a simple problem made complex by the political impact. I suggest the politicians do something unique....do what is right for once....stand and be counted. The majority after all would be with them.

btk

I began a similair thread about 2 min before your BTK and if it is ok, will simply add to yours BTK and delete mine...

Assuming
that this is what it appears it is.....down right scary

"U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder has declared that there is no proof that in-person voter fraud is a problem. He's about to see proof that even he can't deny.
In a new video provided to Breitbart.com, James O’Keefe’s Project Veritas demonstrates why Holder should stop attacking voter ID laws--by walking into Holder’s voting precinct and showing the world that anyone can obtain Eric Holder’s primary ballot. Literally.
The video shows a young man entering a Washington, DC polling place at 3401 Nebraska Avenue, NW, on primary day of this year--April 3, 2012--and giving Holder’s name and address. The poll worker promptly offers the young man Holder’s ballot to vote.
The young man then suggests that he should show his ID; the poll worker, in compliance with DC law, states: “You don’t need it. It’s all right. As long as you’re in here, you’re on our list, and that’s who you say you are, you’re okay.”
The young man replies: “I would feel more comfortable if I just had my ID. Is it alright if I go get it?" The poll worker agrees."


O'Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder's Ballot

Guest 04-09-2012 10:15 AM

on target!!

btk

Guest 04-09-2012 10:17 AM

James O'Keefe is a conservative activist who has made a reputation for himself of misrepresenting the truth on many occasions. One would be very foolish to believe any video provided by him or his organization.

I would think that posters would check out their sources before posting on this forum.

Guest 04-09-2012 10:25 AM

This James O'Keefe's work looks interesting.
 
James O'Keefe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As to the DC Voting ID Law as exposed by O'Keefe's Project, how many times do you believe this happens??

http://www.ncsl.org/legislatures-ele.../voter-id.aspx

Guest 04-09-2012 10:29 AM

The Wikipedia information on James O'Keefe was very enlightening. Basically, one would be very foolish to believe any video of his or his organization.

Guest 04-09-2012 10:47 AM

"In showcasing more blatant liberal hypocrisy, an undercover PJTV investigation highlights liberal groups like the Center for American Progress and the Advancement Project who have the audacity to require photo identification in order to enter their buildings.

Each of these groups has vocally opposed state laws requiring voters to show proof of identification, yet they require it to enter their Washington, D.C., offices."


See video:

Video: Liberals opposing voter ID laws require ID to enter their buildings | TheBlaze.com

Guest 04-09-2012 11:00 AM

As long as you ensure there are measures for the poor to have VALID access to whatever kind of Voter ID card you're talking about, I have no problem with this.

Don't disenfranchise those who shouldn't be and then you're only turning those away who SHOULD be turned away.

Guest 04-09-2012 11:20 AM

forget the sources for just one minute and try to answer the the question.

I guess if every class of person, poor, black etc can find a way to get a drivers license or social security number, etc, they will do likewise for a voter ID.

The subject matter, contrary to those who want to continue to present it as such, has nothing to do with preventing anybody legally entitled to vote, to do so. It has all to do with preventing those who are not supposed to be voting from doing so.

How much more simple can it get than that?

btk

Guest 04-09-2012 11:23 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 477185)
As long as you ensure there are measures for the poor to have VALID access to whatever kind of Voter ID card you're talking about, I have no problem with this.

Don't disenfranchise those who shouldn't be and then you're only turning those away who SHOULD be turned away.

perhaps a voter registration/id mobile unit can be assembled and continually scheduled to continuously loop through communities in order to perform the tasks normally conducted at an election office. could be done on a statewide or countywide basis.

motor vehicle agencies could also be set up for providing ids as has been proposed by others.

i know there is significant cost to such proposals - but i'd rather see my tax dollars spent on a voter registration and id program than some of the programs states, counties and local govt spend it on!

Guest 04-09-2012 11:26 AM

Forget the source? LOL - the entire basis for this thread is O'Keefe, who is a phony - just like this thread.

You were far more entertaining when you were whinning about birth certificates.

Guest 04-09-2012 11:31 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 477198)
perhaps a voter registration/id mobile unit can be assembled and continually scheduled to continuously loop through communities in order to perform the tasks normally conducted at an election office. could be done on a statewide or countywide basis.

motor vehicle agencies could also be set up for providing ids as has been proposed by others.

i know there is significant cost to such proposals - but i'd rather see my tax dollars spent on a voter registration and id program than some of the programs states, counties and local govt spend it on!

This is an excellent suggestion. Although the facts don't point to there being a lot of voter fraud, I am not against a voter ID card as long as this is advertised and made available well in advance of any election. The day is probably coming when everyone will be required to have a national ID card much like a social security card, but with your photo and address on it.

Guest 04-09-2012 11:47 AM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 477150)
James O'Keefe is a conservative activist who has made a reputation for himself of misrepresenting the truth on many occasions. One would be very foolish to believe any video provided by him or his organization.

I would think that posters would check out their sources before posting on this forum.

WHAT TRUTH has been misrepresented please ???????????

Guest 04-09-2012 11:48 AM

coralway...you as usual regarding my intents...just cut the political jousting and answer the question and stop trying to make it what it is not....just one time.

How can you not address a simple question without getting your partisan fluff in a tizzy....just once.

btk

Guest 04-09-2012 11:51 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 477162)
James O'Keefe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As to the DC Voting ID Law as exposed by O'Keefe's Project, how many times do you believe this happens??

Voter ID: State Requirements

While you are personally crucifying the messenger we will put you down as it is ok to disinfranchise votes and voters...it is ok to STEAL votes.

Got it...wow, you folks will defend anything.....you are actually ok because " how many times do you believe this happens??"

ONCE is more than enough and I would prefer checking ids that having black panthers outside with clubs


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