[jbdlfan]

When you discipline is it to punish or are you really just trying to redirect or modify behavior? Which serves as a better outcome? I would believe that being able to modify "bad" behavior or poor decision making could be better served through other means. As I mentioned in another thread, many times today, parents will not take privileges away because they don't want to be inconvenienced. If one grounds a child from activities or material things, they will have to now deal with the child directly.
One of the most effective punishments we ever applied to one of our children was when our son was prohibited to play two games of his baseball season. He not only missed the chance to play, he had to explain to his coach and teammates what he did and apologize for letting them down. Worked quite well in our home.