Originally Posted by golf2140 (Post 813992)

Wounder why we have police in all our schools in this day in age.

Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 813994)

Please don't blame that on those of us who raised kids without hitting them. We taught them discipline.

Blame it on the lazy parents who never taught their kids manners and respect for authority. That has nothing to do with hitting them. In fact, I would wonder if the violent kids weren't raised by violent parents.

Originally Posted by Parker (Post 814059)

We spanked our kids very rarely, and not hard, and only for particularly egregious behavior. We used our hands, never a belt or paddle, and not very hard. In retrospect, I don't know that it really did any good, or any bad. They both grew up to be fine adults, and we have a wonderful relationship with them both.

If I had it to do all over again, I don't think I'd resort to spanking. But for LOVING parents of good judgement who do, no condemnation from me.

Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 814154)

I pretty much agree with this, we used to give our kids a slap on the butt to let them know that something was unacceptable, nothing really painful, but just to emphasize a point. If I were to start over again I would not use physical punishment for two reasons. First, I think it has been proven ineffective, and is more to release the frustration of the parent rather than make an impression on the child. Second, society's perception of what may constitute abuse has evolved in the last thirty years or so and one could end up in legal trouble for what some people used to accept as legitimate discipline. Sometimes I think parents today confuse discipline and physical punishment. Discipline can and must be administered if children are to learn good manners and right from wrong, but it can and should be accomplished without hitting or spanking. The problem with some parenting IMHO is that the parents assume that the kids need nothing but affirmation and positive feedback, and they don't strongly register their disapproval of improper behavior.

My mother never laid a hand on me that I can recall, but an expression of her disappointment in me for bad behavior was the worst punishment imaginable.

Studies have shown that most abusers were themselves abused, and there can be a fine line between discipline and abuse.

Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 814154)

I pretty much agree with this, we used to give our kids a slap on the butt to let them know that something was unacceptable, nothing really painful, but just to emphasize a point. If I were to start over again I would not use physical punishment for two reasons. First, I think it has been proven ineffective, and is more to release the frustration of the parent rather than make an impression on the child. Second, society's perception of what may constitute abuse has evolved in the last thirty years or so and one could end up in legal trouble for what some people used to accept as legitimate discipline. Sometimes I think parents today confuse discipline and physical punishment. Discipline can and must be administered if children are to learn good manners and right from wrong, but it can and should be accomplished without hitting or spanking. The problem with some parenting IMHO is that the parents assume that the kids need nothing but affirmation and positive feedback, and they don't strongly register their disapproval of improper behavior.





My mother never laid a hand on me that I can recall, but an expression of her disappointment in me for bad behavior was the worst punishment imaginable.

Studies have shown that most abusers were themselves abused, and there can be a fine line between discipline and abuse.

Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 813941)

I chose not to revisit my mother's corporal punishment upon my kids, and they are among the most respectful, honest, hardworking adult children I know.

There were times I wanted to wallop them. I made the difficult choice not to. And I did not have easy children--at least, one of them.