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Originally Posted by tomwed
You begged for a link and I answered. I agree that I should have foot noted my source.
It is the same thing as to your remarks on past cost of college. That has to be put into the context of how much salary is today versus then.
Sorry I assumed everyone knows what the minimum wage is now and knows what college tuition is now. Do you need help finding that information?
PS...all of us have similar stories about past generations for sure. Did your family come legally or illegally. WE still have 4.5 million people who have paid money and are still waiting to enter the front door and do it legally.
I clearly have a lot to learn. My family came in through Ellis Island. They were healthy enough to stay. How do you pay your way in?
Don't be angry. Life is too short. I am lucky that I am a boomer and that life has been easier for my than my folks, and for them again their folks. I wish I could pass that down to my kin and others who see America as a chance for a better life through hard work.
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I am not angry...holy cow...
First on the costs...
"The funding for Obama's executive action is coming through the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services, a fee, not tax based agency under the jurisdiction of Homeland Security. Because the USCIS is a fee based agency, many have argued Congress cannot defund it. According to the Congressional Research Service, Congress does in fact have the ability to defund the agency through the appropriations process. "
But lets put that aside for a minute. The larger question is, who is paying these fees? Millions of legal immigrants are paying these fees, which are now being reallocated by the executive branch to legalize millions of illegal immigrants who have been living in the United States for years while failing to go through proper and long established legal channels to obtain citizenship or other legal status. From the USCIS.gov website:"
Cruel Reality: Obama Paying for Illegal Amnesty With Fees Paid by Legal Immigrants - Katie Pavlich
"years to happen, set immigrants and their families back thousands of dollars, and in some cases, all of that time and money is for naught.
But those who have successfully gone through the process, like Sheila and Josue Fuentes, say, “It’s definitely worth it.”
Sheila, 26, and Josue Fuentes, 33, of Fairfield, invested nearly $4,000 in application fees before Josue, a native of Venezuela, became a naturalized citizen on June 27. They decided to not retain an immigration attorney, said Sheila Fuentes, who grew up in West Chester Twp., because their cost could have easily been doubled “and for a young couple just starting out, that would have been difficult.”
Immigration process lengthy, costly | www.journal-news.com
"In April we called on legislators and the Obama administration to remove one of the biggest obstacles legal immigrants face: the cost of applying for citizenship. Legal permanent residents have followed the rules and are eligible for citizenship. However, their path to citizenship is hindered by an onerous fee structure intended to raise revenue, but has instead led to a sharp decline in naturalization rates. Today it costs $680 to apply for citizenship; up from $225 in 1999. In 2011, only about 8 percent of eligible legal immigrants applied for citizenship. We think the application fee is a factor in low application rates for citizenship.
We met with the president and with Secretary Johnson last spring to discuss implementing sensible minimum and maximum application fees. We also suggested creating a sliding fee scale based on household income and family size, and taking into consideration other family factors, like the age of an applicant and whether an applicant who is a minor is enrolled in school.
It's time to offer sensible application fees to legal immigrants applying for U.S. citizenship."
Application fee for U.S. citizenship is unaffordable - Chicago Tribune
I know what the costs of college tuition is today and I know the minimum wage thus will not need your help. You obviously missed my point about context on your min wage post
I just do not like threads like this who tend to want to make us feel uncomfortable or guilty about this situation. I feel really bad for those who are waiting in line to do it legally and I do not like the proliferation of false information to tug at our heartstrings. We are a country of laws, and we need to enforce our laws.
This thread was set up around the theme of compassion and that avenue of making americans feel , as I said, is very much overdone.