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phairmason 05-20-2021 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by DARFAP (Post 1946803)
We bought a "loaded" 2-seater last fall. We really love it. It does get up and go, but after a few times, you figure it out. I can't quote a range. I also have a Yamaha gas cart for the longer trips; however, I'm confident the EVolution could get it done as well.
Thanks for the confidence in the 'jump' start. I figured we'd get used to it. We will also have a gas Yamaha at least for the next few years. --Ruthie

phairmason 05-20-2021 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by charliesienhour (Post 1946878)
My buddy bought one and loves it so I bought one also. Great cart. Much nicer than my club car and customer service at the dealer is great. Not like cart world! Have the shelf installed and you don’t have to worry about storage.
Did you buy from Villages Discount Golf Carts or elsewhere? I'm glad you and your buddy love your EVolution carts.

phairmason 05-20-2021 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Astron (Post 1946977)
We have one on order; demand exceeds supply right now. They can adjust the ‘jump’ at the start to make it less noticeable without effecting the top end speed. The 180 Amp Hour battery should last you for a drive anywhere in the Villages and back. We currently have a 120 Amp Hour battery on our EZGO and driven it at top speed for over three hours and still showed a quarter charge on the meter.
Glad to hear they can adjust the 'jump.' Thanks! --Ruthie

Bay Kid 05-21-2021 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1947479)
I agree. This whole electric fad is not better for the environment.

I'm surprised that ocean going vessels use the most fossil fuels. I would think that it would be airplanes. There are so many more planes in the air on a daily basis than there are ships. I would imagine that one ship crossing the ocean would burn more fuel than a plane doing the same trip, but when you consider that there are about 10,000 planes in the air at any given time in the U.S. it seems that as a group they are going to burn more fuel.

But people tend to not consider the energy that it takes to make batteries and how the electricity that charges them is created. And as you you point out the disposal is not environmentally friendly.

I much prefer electric golf carts and I have one here. If I could extend the range that would be perfect. But as far as electric cars go, I see a bit problem with the time that it takes to charge them. If you're on a long trip and go 200 miles before needing a charge, you're going to have to stop for hours to recharge.

I think that if environmentalists were really concerned about air quality we'd see a move to natural gas. It burns more cleanly than gasoline producing a fraction of the pollutants. It is plentiful, current cars can easily be converted and we have infrastructure in place to distribute it. People with natural gas in their homes could add a filling station and current gas station could easily be converted. We have natural gas lines running everywhere in this country. It would be much easier than creating electric charging stations.

And if President Biden's goal of having all electric cars by 2035 comes to fruition, what happens to all of he gasoline cars in existence now? And do they think about people that can't afford to buy a new car?

China is responsible for 30% of the world's air pollution. The U.S. is responsible for 15%. If we cut ours in half it's a small dent.

I prefer electric golf carts but I think that they idea of all electric cars is pure folly.
I guess we will be buying electric cars for the poor and pay for their electricity.

Jrspud 05-21-2021 07:00 AM
Yes. Most lithium batteries can be installed fairly easily.

Johnny2Ball 05-24-2021 06:50 PM
RoyPow Lithium Battery Installation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by spofford (Post 1947014)
Put the larger RoyPow lithium Batteries in 2019 electric club car in January 2021. I don’t give it a second thought to dive anywhere in TV. Batteries installed at dealership in Leesburg, they did a very clean job of installing batteries and charger. Only need a extension cord to recharge.
Which dealership in Leesburg installed your RoyPow Lithium Batteries????? I'm having my RoyPow Lithium Battery Pack installed by Mark's Mobile Golf Cart Garage in the VIllages.

kkingston57 05-24-2021 08:25 PM
I checked out the Evolution golf cart. I am 6'3". The accelerator in these carts is too close to my foot. My leg is almost completely up right. For me not very comfortable

MorTech 05-26-2021 01:09 AM
I don't have much confidence in the longevity of the lithium packs on any cart except for the Samsung SDI lithium pack on the EZGO Elite. The EZGO Elite is stupid expensive at about $20K at the villages golf cars. Wouldn't you rather have a 2022 Honda Civic LX for the same money? :)

Northerner52 05-26-2021 05:15 AM
There are a few places that retrofit. I know Luxus in leesburg does and the Evolution dealer in Ocala does too.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cindy619 (Post 1946978)
We have a basic, old electric golf cart. Is it possible to buy the new lithium batteries for an old cart?

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 06-19-2021 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Bellomo (Post 1947026)
The quality of this cart is terrible. I own one and sorry I do. The roof is of such thin plastic it cracked under the weight of the curtain in the back. They had to replace the roof. It also rides like a tank. They will not set the speed above 20mph. Impossible to pass a cart doing 15mph on cart path. There is no attention to detail on this cart.
I looked at one yesterday and as soon as the salesman said, "Made in China" I was out.

I'm looking at the EZ Go which seems to be the one to go to in the opinion of many.

I've always been a Club Car guy but from what I understand, their lithium powered carts don't get any better mileage than their led acid battery carts. Also, the 10 inch wheels are an upgrade and might require some modification to the suspension.

DARFAP 06-20-2021 05:06 AM
Bought ours at Luxus Golf Cars on 441 in Leesburg. Custom ordered it.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 06-21-2021 08:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Astron (Post 1946977)
We have one on order; demand exceeds supply right now. They can adjust the ‘jump’ at the start to make it less noticeable without effecting the top end speed. The 180 Amp Hour battery should last you for a drive anywhere in the Villages and back. We currently have a 120 Amp Hour battery on our EZGO and driven it at top speed for over three hours and still showed a quarter charge on the meter. Gas is yesterday’s familiar habit, lithium is the future.
Are you talking about the Evolution?

The "jump" start was a knock on electric carts for years. About 20 years ago Club Car came up with a technology called "ramping" that gradually brought the cart up to speed when starting out.

I assume that by now, all other electric carts have this technology.

I'm wondering if the EZ GO lithium has it.

To me the Evolution hasn't been around long enough and being made in China is a turnoff.

Having been in the golf business for 35 years and overseeing fleets of golf carts, I was initially an EZ GO guy but then Club Car just took over the market and I've been a dyed in the wool Club Car guy for a long time.

At this point, however, based on what I'm hearing, EX GO is beating everyone in the lithium category.

I'm currently looking at an EZ GO Elite.

Rose Ann Vinci Igoe 06-21-2021 12:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cindy619 (Post 1946978)
We have a basic, old electric golf cart. Is it possible to buy the new lithium batteries for an old cart?
Yes, but the guts have to be redone.....

Road-Runner 06-22-2021 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by kkingston57 (Post 1950187)
I checked out the Evolution golf cart. I am 6'3". The accelerator in these carts is too close to my foot. My leg is almost completely up right. For me not very comfortable
We had the same complaint, for some reason the Evolution gas pedal is mounted well back from where could be and when test driving it we had to only put our toes on the bottom of the pedal with our feet straight down. That, the almost total lack of aftermarket accessories and 'Made In China' were deal killers for us.

stratcat 09-16-2021 11:35 PM
We just bought a 2021 Classic 2 Plus from TV Discount Golf Carts. We've logged about 75 miles so far and everything seems to be performing as expected. The issue I do have is with the top end speed. They are rated at 25 mph but the dealer drops it to 20 mph citing some mandate from the villages that all carts cannot be capable of exceeding that speed. Has anyone heard of such a restriction. I know the speed limit is 20 and it's my responsibility to comply but since when does someone have the right to control what I can set my personal property to perform at. Has anyone heard of a Villages Regulation requiring carts to be limited to max speed of 20 mph?

Update: I have my answer...
Florida Statute 320.01(22) defines a golf cart as “a motor vehicle that is designed and
manufactured for operation on a golf course for sporting or recreational purposes and that
is not capable of exceeding speeds of 20 MPH.”

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 09-17-2021 09:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1947586)
How is the ride??
Every electric I ride in has a very stiff ride.
(because of the battery weight)
With the new batteries, has the ride improved??
:gc:
I had a Club Car DS for years and love it. For reasons I'd prefer not to mention, I sold it and have a an Ez Go Lithium now on order.

I loved the ride of that DS. I always thought that it was the best golf cart made up until they discontinued it.

I rode in the friend's Yamaha gas several times and never felt comfortable in it. It always seemed to me that I was sitting on top of the Yamaha as opposed to sitting in the Club Car.

Of course the 10" wheels on the Yamaha are going to give a smoother ride than the 8" wheels of the Club Car.

Battlebasset 09-19-2021 04:37 PM
Just bought a 2022 Evolution 180A pack. 1 year bumper to bumper. 5 years for battery. From Villages Discount Golf Carts. Loved the quiet ride and quick acceleration. No gas fumes. Told the dealer that I could be their best or worst salesman. Price much less than EZ Go, and larger battery. Will post updates, it arrives on Tuesday.

09/25/2021 Update - So far, pleased. Drove it 25 miles and the battery meter only down to little less than 70%. I'm OK with the pedal position, but I'm short. Quiet. No gas fumes. Great acceleration due to the torque of the electric motor, but it does top out at 20 MPH. Some gas carts definitely quicker I've discovered. I really like the larger wheel/low profile tire set up. I got the bluetooth radio set up, can't say I'm too pleased with that. The radio controls are only on the control panel, small, and almost impossible to use while driving. The sound quality is mediocre, the radio reception not too good. I might look into seeing if I can at least install a volume control on the dash.

LeftyMike 09-19-2021 04:54 PM
Evolution Cart
 
Not a bad cart. Runs will. Probably will get 70 miles/charge with 180 ah battery.

I upgraded the sound for about $100. The 2 glove box doors can be 3D printed.

Software for the display screen needs to be better, but useable.

Starts are smooth. Maybe just electric acceleration.

There is another dealer in Ocala.


Quote:
Originally Posted by phairmason (Post 1946658)
I test drove an Evolution Electric Plus 4 Passenger cart today at Villages Discount Golf Carts on 441. I have a 2013 gas Yamaha 4-seater and am looking at new lithium battery carts.

It had the LED display, speakers, and back up camera and fancy wheels/tires. But other than that, it's a barebones cart--no locking glove box, for example. I drove over a pretty deep pothole without a bounce (compared to my 2013 Y). I definitely liked the price.

Evolution owners:
  • Do you like it?
  • Does the "jump" start throw you off or do you get used to it?
  • Nothing on the dash has a closure. Do you have problems with items blowing away--maybe there's a hack to make a cavity a glove box?
  • What is the mileage on the 180AH battery charge? The sales rep said 55-65 miles.
  • What advice do you have about the Evolution cart or about the dealers in the area?

--Ruthie

Battlebasset 09-22-2021 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by LeftyMike (Post 2006742)
Not a bad cart. Runs will. Probably will get 70 miles/charge with 180 ah battery.

I upgraded the sound for about $100. The 2 glove box doors can be 3D printed.

Software for the display screen needs to be better, but useable.

Starts are smooth. Maybe just electric acceleration.

There is another dealer in Ocala.
How are the glove box doors printed? Is that a DIY or via the dealer/manufacturer?

tophcfa 09-22-2021 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by UpNorth (Post 1946776)
Gas is history. Electric is the future.
That’s great news, there will be plenty of nice used gas carts available for those who prefer the internal combustion engine: )

MorTech 10-06-2021 01:50 AM
Electric is the future for golf carts and some automobiles but you cannot beat the energy density of the hydrocarbon...Safely.
Battery energy density is literally pathetic and won't get much better. Storing electrons in a chemical goo is kind of a dumb idea.
Cant wait for muh antimatter powered cart!

Energy density - Wikipedia

Tyrone Shoelaces 10-21-2021 10:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 1950767)
I don't have much confidence in the longevity of the lithium packs on any cart except for the Samsung SDI lithium pack on the EZGO Elite. The EZGO Elite is stupid expensive at about $20K at the villages golf cars. Wouldn't you rather have a 2022 Honda Civic LX for the same money? :)
Uhm, No.
My cart is a big part of my life (pathetic, I know)
My 19' Elite has over 9k miles on it. It's performed flawlessly and I've done Zero maintenance on it

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 10-21-2021 10:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie0723 (Post 1946792)
Love my lithium EZGO, 70 mi range, quiet, no exhaust smell, strong acceleration.
I have an EZGO RVX Elite on order. I didn;t take it for a test drive before ordering but happened to beat the store and was talking to the salesman and he suggested that we take one out for a spin. I liked it a lot except that I felt that it was very loud for an electric cart. My last cart was an older Club Car DS and it was much quieter than the EZGO.

Is this common with lithium powered carts or is it just the EZGO?

I was looking at some articles on cart recently and several of them named the Club Car lithium as the best cart on the market. Maybe I should have test driven one of those before I placed my order.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 10-21-2021 10:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1947586)
How is the ride??
Every electric I ride in has a very stiff ride.
(because of the battery weight)
With the new batteries, has the ride improved??
:gc:
That's funny. When I was having my old electric Club Car DS serviced I was given a Yamaha gas loaner and I thought the ride was very stiff and uncomfortable compared to my Club Car.

Brant O 10-23-2021 05:23 AM
Which brand of lithium battery are you using?
Thank you.

MorTech 10-28-2021 12:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrone Shoelaces (Post 2019736)
Uhm, No.
My cart is a big part of my life (pathetic, I know)
My 19' Elite has over 9k miles on it. It's performed flawlessly and I've done Zero maintenance on it
Hence the "smiley face" at the end of the sentence :)
The Evolution carts are half the price of the EZGO Elite. I see a lot more of them around TV lately.

MorTech 10-28-2021 12:42 AM
The EZGO uses a limited slip transaxle for better traction in wet grass...Limited slip axles tend to be a bit "chatty".

Syd2008 11-06-2021 09:27 AM
Have either one of you noticed a rather loud humming noise until you get to 18.6 mph. Supposed to be a new federal regulation.

Discount cart said nothing can be done. Required. Very irritating

imalowany 11-06-2021 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Syd2008 (Post 2025971)
Have either one of you noticed a rather loud humming noise until you get to 18.6 mph. Supposed to be a new federal regulation.

Discount cart said nothing can be done. Required. Very irritating
I wouldn’t trust anything they said. They are the worst to deal with. Sorry I bought from them. Love the Cart but not them. And I don’t have a humming noise.

DARFAP 01-17-2022 07:19 AM
Luxus no longer sells EVolution
 
Since this is about the only thread discussing Evolution golf carts, thought I'd throw this out there. I purchased from Luxus Golf Carts in Leesburg. When I called about scheduling the first annual "checkup," they let me know they are no longer a dealer. They will still do inspections; however, any warranty work or maintenance required will have to be done by the new dealer: Villages Discount Golf Carts.

Laker14 01-21-2022 06:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spofford (Post 1947014)
Put the larger RoyPow lithium Batteries in 2019 electric club car in January 2021. I don’t give it a second thought to dive anywhere in TV. Batteries installed at dealership in Leesburg, they did a very clean job of installing batteries and charger. Only need a extension cord to recharge.
do you have a DS or a Precedent?

Laker14 01-21-2022 06:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stebooo (Post 1947097)
Totally disagree with golf carts. Remember they are a golf cart.
How does one disagree with a golf cart?

Tyrone Shoelaces 01-22-2022 08:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spofford (Post 1947014)
Put the larger RoyPow lithium Batteries in 2019 electric club car in January 2021. I don’t give it a second thought to dive anywhere in TV. Batteries installed at dealership in Leesburg, they did a very clean job of installing batteries and charger. Only need a extension cord to recharge.
Dealership name please?

Ithreeputtoo 04-30-2022 12:51 PM
I have a Yamaha with lead batteries and I want to change it over to lithium but so far I have not been successful in finding a company that does that. Any suggestions would be appreciated!!!!

Michael G. 04-30-2022 02:44 PM
In the news, there are lithium batteries in cars catching on fire in garages.
Is there same problem with lithium batteries in Golf carts??

Michael G. 04-30-2022 08:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2090695)
In the news, there are lithium batteries in cars catching on fire in garages.
Is there same problem with lithium batteries in Golf carts??
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Tyrone Shoelaces 05-01-2022 07:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ithreeputtoo (Post 2090651)
I have a Yamaha with lead batteries and I want to change it over to lithium but so far I have not been successful in finding a company that does that. Any suggestions would be appreciated!!!!
I had a company in Tavares called Mando's do a lithium conversion on an old DS of mine.
Since I got it back I've parked my EZGO Elite and just drive the DS.
It's awesome! It drives like a Go-Cart. nimble, fast and super acceleration which is adjustable on the fly. 40 miles took it to 38% so far.
Anyone looking for a 2019 Elite? :icon_wink:

Altavia 05-01-2022 08:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrone Shoelaces (Post 2090868)
I had a company in Tavares called Mando's do a lithium conversion on an old DS of mine.
Since I got it back I've parked my EZGO Elite and just drive the DS.
It's awesome! It drives like a Go-Cart. nimble, fast and super acceleration which is adjustable on the fly. 40 miles took it to 38% so far.
Anyone looking for a 2019 Elite? :icon_wink:
UP GRADE TO LITHIUM

dhdallas 05-01-2022 09:06 AM
Go electric!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by splashes (Post 1946670)
Buy gas
Yes, by all means get a smelly, polluting, noisy gas powered cart with all of its maintenance requirements and parts to malfunction, wear out, and need servicing. Belts, filters, injectors, oil, plugs, timing, bearings, muffler, and more are a mechanics gold mine sure to keep them in business for years to come. I have a 22 year old electric Club Car that had the "old school" lead acid batteries and would go from one end of TV to the other with juice leftover. I finally replaced them with four Lithium Iron Phosphate 12v 100ah batteries. Super lightweight and even more range and power. It never needs professional servicing, has a top speed of 24 mph, and I just plug it in at the end of the day and its ready to go again.

Electric cars, carts, tools, etc. are here to stay. Do NOT listen to anyone who is simply resistant to change because they are old and stuck in the past.

dhdallas 05-01-2022 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2090792)
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And gasoline isn't flammable? Pay no attention to isolated stories that also fail to include whatever stupidity on the owner's part caused the fires.


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