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MartinSE 05-01-2022 09:16 AM

The path around this tree is getting deeper and deeper. And yet, we keep going round and round.

dhdallas 05-01-2022 09:28 AM

Do it yourself and stay away from Mando's
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrone Shoelaces (Post 2090868)
I had a company in Tavares called Mando's do a lithium conversion on an old DS of mine.
Since I got it back I've parked my EZGO Elite and just drive the DS.
It's awesome! It drives like a Go-Cart. nimble, fast and super acceleration which is adjustable on the fly. 40 miles took it to 38% so far.
Anyone looking for a 2019 Elite? :icon_wink:

Don't go to Mando's unless you want to pay a ridiculous bill. I bought four Lithium Iron Phosphate 12v 100ah batteries made by CHINS from Amazon for only $300 each (now $400) and replaced the six 8v lead acid batteries in my 2000 electric Club Car DS using the original cables & connectors. I also bought a Lithium charger from Allied for $300 and bypassed the onboard charge computer (OBC) (easy DIY job - see YouTube). Mando's wanted to charge me triple the amount I spent to easily do it myself. My cart is now lighter and faster than ever and will run forever between charges!

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Tyrone Shoelaces 05-01-2022 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by dhdallas (Post 2090941)
Don't go to Mando's unless you want to pay a ridiculous bill. I bought four Lithium Iron Phosphate 12v 100ah batteries made by CHINS from Amazon for only $300 each (now $400) and replaced the six 8v lead acid batteries in my 2000 electric Club Car DS using the original cables & connectors. I also bought a Lithium charger from Allied for $300 and bypassed the onboard charge computer (OBC) (easy DIY job - see YouTube). Mando's wanted to charge me triple the amount I spent to easily do it myself. My cart is now lighter and faster than ever and will run forever between charges!

You're "The Man"

I just wanted to have it professionally done with one unit.
They also put in a kickass controller and did a tremendous alignment job.
Great Guys

JMintzer 05-01-2022 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dhdallas (Post 2090920)
Yes, by all means get a smelly, polluting, noisy gas powered cart with all of its maintenance requirements and parts to malfunction, wear out, and need servicing. Belts, filters, injectors, oil, plugs, timing, bearings, muffler, and more are a mechanics gold mine sure to keep them in business for years to come.

Thanks, I will.

DARFAP 05-01-2022 01:15 PM

I don't understand the need to start yet another thread on a topic that already has several...

JMintzer 05-01-2022 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DARFAP (Post 2091039)
I don't understand the need to start yet another thread on a topic that already has several...

Because THIS time, it'll turn out differently...

Yeah, I know... I had trouble saying that with a straight face...:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

MartinSE 05-01-2022 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DARFAP (Post 2091039)
I don't understand the need to start yet another thread on a topic that already has several...

If someone has the time, it would be interested to see a summary of which topics have the most threads and which have the least, and maybe the longest topics. I think longest might be "Nothing"?

MorTech 05-02-2022 04:05 AM

Lithium battery thermal runaway is nasty. If you charge at 0.1C to 90% max then the event is near zero.

GpaVader 05-02-2022 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by phairmason (Post 1946658)
I test drove an Evolution Electric Plus 4 Passenger cart today at Villages Discount Golf Carts on 441. I have a 2013 gas Yamaha 4-seater and am looking at new lithium battery carts.

It had the LED display, speakers, and back up camera and fancy wheels/tires. But other than that, it's a barebones cart--no locking glove box, for example. I drove over a pretty deep pothole without a bounce (compared to my 2013 Y). I definitely liked the price.

Evolution owners:
  • Do you like it?
  • Does the "jump" start throw you off or do you get used to it?
  • Nothing on the dash has a closure. Do you have problems with items blowing away--maybe there's a hack to make a cavity a glove box?
  • What is the mileage on the 180AH battery charge? The sales rep said 55-65 miles.
  • What advice do you have about the Evolution cart or about the dealers in the area?

--Ruthie

We bought one in November last year, and it has been good. I did have to send it in for service because the battery management stopped working so I couldn't charge it but TVDGC took care of it. NO issues with the Jump. Look on FB they have an Evolution owners group and they have locking enclosures people have added, not to mention other solutions. I haven't officially tested the range yet. I have had it over 65 miles with about 25% left and I was going on a jaunt the next day so I charged it up.

The piece of advice I would give is have them disconnect the growler, that makes noise until you get to 18mph and keep a long extension cord with you just in case.

PoolBrews 06-17-2022 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisanp@aol.com (Post 1946985)
I just had a total duh moment...why would you need gas a gas cart if you just had a roof solar panel in the FL sun on an electric cart? Is there someplace that installs solar panels on electric carts? Why isn't this standard from the manufacturers in 2021? Almost all new RVs have a roof solar panel to charge the house battery to run the fridge. Why are golf carts so behind the times? Who wants to go on shark tank with me?

I'm an electrical engineer. Look at the actual charge rate for a solar panel that size. It will not provide any significant type of charge for the battery. In addition, during any normal drive you'll be on a multimodal path where you are under tree limbs about 50% of the time, so it's charging even less. A solar panel is just a gimmick on a cart.

Oldragbagger 06-17-2022 08:42 PM

We have had our Evolution 4 Pro 180 ah for three months now and so far we like it very much. I am surprised at the comments about Villages Discount Golf Carts. Our experience with them has been excellent. Just this past week we hit a hard bump and a part of our side panel popped out. We called, they picked it in two days and brought it back a day later good as new.
We like the way it rides, the quick start not a problem and we don’t notice any growling noise.
We live in the Village of Hawkins, way down south of 44. Last week we took it almost all the way to the 42 and back and had 68% battery left.
Really, these types of opinion questions really amount to asking people whether they like kale or not. Some people will love it and some will hate it.
As far as all the “made in China” comments…..only partially true. They are built in Chino, California using a mix of components, some made in China and some not. Pretty much like everything else on the road, and in the stores.

Battlebasset 06-30-2022 03:05 PM

I saw one of the new Evolution D3 carts today in Fenny. Took some pics, but unfortunately it was gone by the time I came back. Here is a video from STM. Does anyone have any insight to share on these yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFBz1tmuCpg

EdFNJ 07-02-2022 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Redwood8300 (Post 1946916)
Take a look at an Atomic. They are in Wildwood. I get around 100 miles/charge on mine.

Are you sure it isn't 100 KILOMETERS (about 63 miles)? I have a lithium Atomic, actually my second one, and while it doesn't say it (nor did they when I bought it) the odometer is in Kilometers not miles. 100 miles sounds very far fetched from my experience with 2 carts and over 20,000 MILES (not kilometers) over both of them and it also depends on how you come to that number. Did you ever run it down till it died? The battery gauge is not very linear meaning it stays high until it is about down to 4 bars then it takes a dive. Don't get me wrong, I lovei it, but am VERY skeptical you get anything near 100 miles. I record every charge and every mileage reading and average about 65 MILES with some A/C use. Heater kills it. This one is 3 years+ old and the lithium batteries have not degraded 1 bit. Get exactly the same mileage as the day I bought it. I charge it about 1 time very 5 or 6 days. Maybe your is different but doesn't sound right.

MorTech 07-06-2022 11:16 PM

Figure on 2.0ah-2.5ah per mile on a 48V system.

I have seen a couple of Evolution D3 carts now. 130ah...figure on 50 miles.

Tyrone Shoelaces 07-21-2022 07:38 AM

I just got 50 out of my 105 Eco-Battery.
Amazing, that much energy can be stored in that little package.

Eco Battery Store

Charlene9 07-21-2022 08:47 AM

Evolution. Speed
 
Does anyone know the person who turns up the speed in the evolution golf cart?

Battlebasset 08-05-2022 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlene9 (Post 2117593)
Does anyone know the person who turns up the speed in the evolution golf cart?

Would like to know that myself. I don't want to go 30 MPH, but being able to keep up with the other carts would be a bonus.

The law in Florida is 20 MPH max, but the carts that are sold through the Villages Golf Carts all exceed that by about 3 MPH. Villages Discount will tell you that they follow the law, but obviously, VGC skirts that.

Brwne 08-05-2022 08:31 AM

Evolution Electric Plus 4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phairmason (Post 1946658)
I test drove an Evolution Electric Plus 4 Passenger cart today at Villages Discount Golf Carts on 441. I have a 2013 gas Yamaha 4-seater and am looking at new lithium battery carts.

It had the LED display, speakers, and back up camera and fancy wheels/tires. But other than that, it's a barebones cart--no locking glove box, for example. I drove over a pretty deep pothole without a bounce (compared to my 2013 Y). I definitely liked the price.

Evolution owners:
  • Do you like it?
  • Does the "jump" start throw you off or do you get used to it?
  • Nothing on the dash has a closure. Do you have problems with items blowing away--maybe there's a hack to make a cavity a glove box?
  • What is the mileage on the 180AH battery charge? The sales rep said 55-65 miles.
  • What advice do you have about the Evolution cart or about the dealers in the area?

--Ruthie

I would be interested in your 2013 Yamaha gas cart, if your electric cart purchase replaces it.

Oldragbagger 08-05-2022 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phairmason (Post 1946658)
I test drove an Evolution Electric Plus 4 Passenger cart today at Villages Discount Golf Carts on 441. I have a 2013 gas Yamaha 4-seater and am looking at new lithium battery carts.

It had the LED display, speakers, and back up camera and fancy wheels/tires. But other than that, it's a barebones cart--no locking glove box, for example. I drove over a pretty deep pothole without a bounce (compared to my 2013 Y). I definitely liked the price.

Evolution owners:
  • Do you like it?
  • Does the "jump" start throw you off or do you get used to it?
  • Nothing on the dash has a closure. Do you have problems with items blowing away--maybe there's a hack to make a cavity a glove box?
  • What is the mileage on the 180AH battery charge? The sales rep said 55-65 miles.
  • What advice do you have about the Evolution cart or about the dealers in the area?

--Ruthie

We have the Evolution Pro-4 and we like it very much. The jump start is not an issue for us, we got used to it (or learned to ease into it) pretty quickly. There is a storage locker under the back seat that is pretty specious if you have items that might blow away. We have been from the south end to the north end and back and still had almost 70% charge left so I can’t say exactly the mileage (they told us 70 miles to a charge) but it has certainly been adequate for us for anywhere we have wanted to go. Price was a big factor for us, but so was electric. We didn’t care about high end or all the bells and whistles. Basic was fine enough. The Evolution was the best all around package for us.

GpaVader 08-05-2022 12:43 PM

FWIW - We have one and have been able to get pretty close to the 80 miles I was told you could get out of it. Live in Hammocks at Fenney and have golfed up by Sumter Landing and it still shows almost 60% charge. I have not been willing to take it bone dry but I've been happy with it. The Service from The Villages Discount Golf Car has been good. I had a charging issue, they picked it up and corrected the issue and returned it inside of a week.

Djean1981 08-05-2022 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by splashes (Post 1946670)
Buy gas

Yuck..

mbene 08-06-2022 08:14 AM

On the Hills
 
Not that there are many hills in TV, how does the Evolution handle the inclines coming out of the tunnels? Have you used it much with four people on it, if so, have you noticed any decease in performance, either range, acceleration or top end?


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