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MCJEFE 09-06-2022 10:57 AM

All of these clueless people talking about things they have very little knowledge of.

1st - Ezgo is not a budget golf cart manufacturer. They are actually the largest of the big 3 manufacturers, (club car, Ezgo and yamaha) owned by Textron which is a massive company including Bell, Cessna, Beechcraft, E-Z-GO, Arctic Cat and many more.

They have both the premium RXV line and a budget TXT line.

Star and Evolution are both Chinese knock off carts with limited repair parts availability and non-existent aftermarket parts options. Most of these companies are around for about 5-7 years tops and then are gone. Don't even bring up Tomberlin.

2nd - the Samsung SDI cells used in the batteries are not even "lithium" (which can catch fire) they are a completely different chemistry, Lifep04 which will NOT burn.

3rd - range is dependent on a number of factors, most importantly battery capacity/voltage, then tire size and driving style and speed.

4th Lithium cells are rated in life cycles most Samsung SDI cells have a 3,500 cycle life. After 3,500 complete cycles the battery will have 80% capacity. So in theory if you drive the deadA complete cycle is considered from full charge to completely discharged and fully charged again which places the maximum stress on the cells. Anything less increases the life of the battery.

Bottom line on your battery life is that if you drove the cart dead nearly every day for 10 years you will still have 80% of the original capacity. Anytime you use less than a "full" cycle, say only 10 miles before charging, places less stress on the cells thus extending their life. So how long they last is completely subjective.

Ezgo was also the 1st to market in 2016-2017 with lithium years ahead Club Car and Yamaha did not make a lithium cart.
While Yamaha makes a great gas cart their electric carts have been plaged with controller and motor issues for years.

If you need to educate yourself more on different types of batteries a great resource issearch for:
Batteryuniversity.com

Tyrone Shoelaces 09-06-2022 11:06 AM

Lifep04 = Lithium iron phosphate

larcha 09-06-2022 11:29 AM

See also: LiFePO4 Vs Lithium Ion & Other Batteries & Why They’re #1

Fastskiguy 09-06-2022 11:57 AM

Are these plug in and forget or do you need to unplug them when the batteries are charged? Like can you leave them plugged in for days on end?

Joe

JMintzer 09-06-2022 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2133687)
It's sort of fascinating how quickly things can change in today's world.

I bought a Lithium powered golf cart, when I bought my home in The Villages, 9 short months ago.

I posted a golf cart question on one of the forums, completely unrelated to gasoline or battery power.

Within and hour, I had 100 or so responses. 90+ told me I'd be an idiot to buy a battery powered golf cart, gasoline is the only way to go.

Now everyone is extolling the virtues of Lithium, battery powered golf carts (as they should be!).

Who said you "can't teach an old dog, new tricks"?

Everyone? Not hardly... Just the people that own one (as requested by the OP), with a few exceptions of "mine is better than yours"... And that's fine. Buy whatever cart you want!

TheWarriors 09-06-2022 12:06 PM

Star delivers 20 miles more range than EZ-GO, if extended range is important. And it looks like they’ll be around for awhile based on their financials and constant production increases. Either way, battery carts have come a long way and the advantages of gas carts are equalizing. If change doesn’t scare you, go battery. If you like the way things were done yesterday, go gas. Ten years from now gas will be obsolete but so will many of us ;)

rogerrice60 09-06-2022 12:28 PM

Golf Cart
 
I have Evaluation with Lithium battery 60 mile range.
Excellent cart no problems so far.

Samcat13 09-06-2022 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Johngramuglia (Post 2133464)
I am looking for a new cart and leaning toward the EZ Go Lithium, do any owners have some thoughts/opinions on them? Thanks

Have a 2021 and love it. Getting a little over 40 miles with 1/4 charge still left. I run the kart at 22 mph all the time.:gc:

MorTech 09-06-2022 01:27 PM

The Star Sirius uses a 210ah Lithium Iron Phosphate battery which "should" be even more durable than the ternary battery in the EZGO Elite. You will get 80 miles per charge with the Star...60 miles per charge with EZGO Elite.

The chance of fire is near zero...It is charging at 0.15C which barely makes the lithium batteries breathe hard :)

EZGO has sold more than 120,000 Elites and have not incinerated one customer that we know of.

Kelevision 09-06-2022 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johngramuglia (Post 2133464)
I am looking for a new cart and leaning toward the EZ Go Lithium, do any owners have some thoughts/opinions on them? Thanks

I have one and love it. I haven’t had any issues. The charge lasts a long time. I use it often. I’d never get gas. Lithium all the way!!

MorTech 09-06-2022 01:34 PM

TVGC also sells an EZGO Lithium with 4 person forward-facing seats.

MorTech 09-06-2022 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MandoMan (Post 2133596)
I have one. EZgo is hardly a budget brand—mine cost $21,000, loaded. They are the top maker of Lithium-ion-powered golf carts. Made in America! Terrific. Silent. Scentless. No water to refill. No battery memory. Go away for the summer and come back and it’s ready to go. The people bad-mouthing them haven’t driven them. Pay no attention to them.

A good rule of thumb...Do not let a lithium battery sit at full charge for more than a month...Store at half charge and charge full before use when you return.

Villages Kahuna 09-06-2022 01:53 PM

I’ve had EZGO carts for over 20 years. My next one will be an EZGO Lithium.

Good looking, reliable, and I love that their electrics go uphill just as fast as downhill!

MorTech 09-06-2022 01:54 PM

The Samsung SDI battery in the EZGO Elite uses Nickel Manganese Cobalt chemistry.

jimschlaefer 09-06-2022 05:01 PM

What Golf Cart to Buy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Johngramuglia (Post 2133464)
I am looking for a new cart and leaning toward the EZ Go Lithium, do any owners have some thoughts/opinions on them? Thanks

You're gonna get a lot of opinions, BUT
The biggest selling (not the least expensive) golf cart in TV is the Yamaha gas EFI. There's a reason for this. Actually there are a lot of reasons for this. Popular choice, especially when not the least cost, says it all.


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