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Fastskiguy 09-07-2022 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 2133866)
Just plug them in and the charger will automatically turn off when full. You can just leave it plugged in but if you leave for the summer you should store lithium battery at about half charge and leave it unplugged.
Thanks, it sounds pretty darn easy

Joe

Susan1717 09-07-2022 08:43 AM
I’m sticking to gas. Only fill the tank every several months and never worry about running out if a charge. If you travel from town to town all day, you’re putting a lot of miles on over a period of 5-6 hours and I feel way more confident with gas. I’m just not convinced of lithium battery waste not hurting our environment as well. My other residence is a high rise condo so there’s no way they could ever convert to enough convenient charging stations so I won’t be buying an electric car either.

ohioshooter 09-07-2022 08:55 AM
It's a shame that people don't read the titles to these posts.

"EZ Go Lithium, opinions of owners"

OhioBuckeye 09-07-2022 09:13 AM
Don’t know much about Lithium batteries in golf carts but I do know they do catch fire because charging causes heat & replace them is very pricey. If you get 5 yrs. out of your golf cart Lithium batteries are you going to spend hundreds or possibly thousands of dollars replacing them. Not trying to sound mean but I’m more interested in seeing how long they last & what they cost & the disposal price. Hope you get a couple more yrs. out of them. Thanks for your comment!

OhioBuckeye 09-07-2022 09:17 AM
Electric carts have been out for yrs. so I would think EV Lithium carts should go twice as long. Buy one & see how you like it, that’s the only way you’ll know first hand.

Tyrone Shoelaces 09-07-2022 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ohioshooter (Post 2134012)
It's a shame that people don't read the titles to these posts.

"EZ Go Lithium, opinions of owners"
Now I know why you have so many "THANKS"

Vermilion Villager 09-07-2022 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Shoelaces (Post 2133625)
Perhaps I should get a gas powered cell phone?
You know, just to be on the "safe side".
:1rotfl::1rotfl:

BrianL99 09-08-2022 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ohioshooter (Post 2134012)
It's a shame that people don't read the titles to these posts.

"EZ Go Lithium, opinions of owners"
I doubt there are more than 25-50 E-Z-Go Lithium golf carts in The Villages. I've certainly never seen one. As everyone knows, Yamaha is the manufacturer of choice in The Villages. Why is that the case? The Developer established a relationship with Yamaha, when The Villages was little more than a small community of mobile homes. The Developer became the local Yamaha dealer for The Villages and the rest is history.

For what it's worth, my take on the golf cart world, based on 30 years experience in the golf world .

Club Car is the Buick (or perhaps even Cadillac) of the golf cart world. Classy style, dependable & good quality. Nothing too flashy.

Yamaha is the Pontiac. Appeals to a younger crowd (The Villages excepted) and will get the job done.

E-Z-Go is the Chevrolet. A little less expensive, not quite as dependable, but a good budget choice.

Garia is the Saab of the golf cart world. Stylish, if you like that style. Sporty and kind of "oddball", in a quirky way (that's probably redundant). God forbid, something goes wrong and you need get repaired. Be prepared to wait for ever and spend a small fortune.

Star Sirius is the Datsun/Nissan. Good technology, sporty & stylish, but subject to some parts shortages and other issues, and will probably never catch up with Honda or Toyota.

Evolution is the Kia. Low cost, lots bling, but it's still just a Kia.

I think the Lithium Battery technology is still evolving and like LED light bulbs, we've been told they'll last just about forever, but they haven't really been around long enough to prove it.

ohioshooter 09-08-2022 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2134232)
I doubt there are more than 25-50 E-Z-Go Lithium golf carts in The Villages. I've certainly never seen one. As everyone knows, Yamaha is the manufacturer of choice in The Villages. Why is that the case? The Developer established a relationship with Yamaha, when The Villages was little more than a small community of mobile homes. The Developer became the local Yamaha dealer for The Villages and the rest is history.

For what it's worth, my take on the golf cart world, based on 30 years experience in the golf world .

Club Car is the Buick (or perhaps even Cadillac) of the golf cart world. Classy style, dependable & good quality. Nothing too flashy.

Yamaha is the Pontiac. Appeals to a younger crowd (The Villages excepted) and will get the job done.

E-Z-Go is the Chevrolet. A little less expensive, not quite as dependable, but a good budget choice.

Garia is the Saab of the golf cart world. Stylish, if you like that style. Sporty and kind of "oddball", in a quirky way (that's probably redundant). God forbid, something goes wrong and you need get repaired. Be prepared to wait for ever and spend a small fortune.

Star Sirius is the Datsun/Nissan. Good technology, sporty & stylish, but subject to some parts shortages and other issues, and will probably never catch up with Honda or Toyota.

Evolution is the Kia. Low cost, lots bling, but it's still just a Kia.

I think the Lithium Battery technology is still evolving and like LED light bulbs, we've been told they'll last just about forever, but they haven't really been around long enough to prove it.
My point was, I don’t think the OP was looking for a gas vs electric debate. JMO

MCJEFE 09-08-2022 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 2133856)
Club Car is solid but the range with lithium battery is only about 25 mile. I have a Yamaha PTV AC with a home built LFP lithium pack (16s EVE 150ah prismatics) and Navitas controller. I use 120ah and get about 50 miles per charge set at 22 MPH. 50 miles is minimum for TV. I got about $8K in the thing including the cost of the cart.
We may need to meet up at some point. Lol

Where were you able to find the chemistry of the Elite battery. I couldn't even find a MSDS for it...


My current project is a 57 T-bird (CCDS) 24S using CATL 202ah cells, charging to 84v , Navitas conversion, Ausco Disc brake conversion. Etc. I'm up in the Historic Side and will be back later this month.

Jeff

Biker Dog 09-08-2022 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2134232)
I doubt there are more than 25-50 E-Z-Go Lithium golf carts in The Villages. I've certainly never seen one. As everyone knows, Yamaha is the manufacturer of choice in The Villages. Why is that the case? The Developer established a relationship with Yamaha, when The Villages was little more than a small community of mobile homes. The Developer became the local Yamaha dealer for The Villages and the rest is history.

For what it's worth, my take on the golf cart world, based on 30 years experience in the golf world .

Club Car is the Buick (or perhaps even Cadillac) of the golf cart world. Classy style, dependable & good quality. Nothing too flashy.

Yamaha is the Pontiac. Appeals to a younger crowd (The Villages excepted) and will get the job done.

E-Z-Go is the Chevrolet. A little less expensive, not quite as dependable, but a good budget choice.

Garia is the Saab of the golf cart world. Stylish, if you like that style. Sporty and kind of "oddball", in a quirky way (that's probably redundant). God forbid, something goes wrong and you need get repaired. Be prepared to wait for ever and spend a small fortune.

Star Sirius is the Datsun/Nissan. Good technology, sporty & stylish, but subject to some parts shortages and other issues, and will probably never catch up with Honda or Toyota.

Evolution is the Kia. Low cost, lots bling, but it's still just a Kia.

I think the Lithium Battery technology is still evolving and like LED light bulbs, we've been told they'll last just about forever, but they haven't really been around long enough to prove it.
Just a lot of stupid BS.

MorTech 09-08-2022 01:58 PM
This from TVGC:

Lithium - The Villages Golf Cars : The Villages Golf Cars

I forgot to mention the regen brakes...They are excellent with no brake pads to wear out.
All you really need to do with the EZGO Elite is to replace tires and wipe off the windshield once in awhile.

MorTech 09-08-2022 02:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2134232)
I doubt there are more than 25-50 E-Z-Go Lithium golf carts in The Villages. I've certainly never seen one. As everyone knows, Yamaha is the manufacturer of choice in The Villages. Why is that the case? The Developer established a relationship with Yamaha, when The Villages was little more than a small community of mobile homes. The Developer became the local Yamaha dealer for The Villages and the rest is history.

For what it's worth, my take on the golf cart world, based on 30 years experience in the golf world .

Club Car is the Buick (or perhaps even Cadillac) of the golf cart world. Classy style, dependable & good quality. Nothing too flashy.

Yamaha is the Pontiac. Appeals to a younger crowd (The Villages excepted) and will get the job done.

E-Z-Go is the Chevrolet. A little less expensive, not quite as dependable, but a good budget choice.

Garia is the Saab of the golf cart world. Stylish, if you like that style. Sporty and kind of "oddball", in a quirky way (that's probably redundant). God forbid, something goes wrong and you need get repaired. Be prepared to wait for ever and spend a small fortune.

Star Sirius is the Datsun/Nissan. Good technology, sporty & stylish, but subject to some parts shortages and other issues, and will probably never catch up with Honda or Toyota.

Evolution is the Kia. Low cost, lots bling, but it's still just a Kia.

I think the Lithium Battery technology is still evolving and like LED light bulbs, we've been told they'll last just about forever, but they haven't really been around long enough to prove it.
30 years experience? LOL!

Lithium batteries have been around for 35 years. The tabless 4680 NMC is a pretty good improvement:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c1cmttKpDs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6Y-twGHHLo

Calendar life for the tabless cells should be >16 years due to elimination of jelly roll hot spots during charging/discharging.

Tyrone Shoelaces 09-09-2022 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Biker Dog (Post 2134331)
Just a lot of stupid BS.
Agreed

kkingston57 09-09-2022 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by jimschlaefer (Post 2133795)
You're gonna get a lot of opinions, BUT
The biggest selling (not the least expensive) golf cart in TV is the Yamaha gas EFI. There's a reason for this. Actually there are a lot of reasons for this. Popular choice, especially when not the least cost, says it all.
Popular? Yes. Rode in an electric cart recently and they are far superior to gasoline cart in accelerating. To me this is important, especially if he have to cross a busy road like Morse. Also in reverse gasoline cart does hesitate and no hesitation in an electric cart.

Best analogy is gas cart is like a manual shift vehicle and electric is an automatic.


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