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JSR22 06-26-2012 01:13 PM

That's the cart my husband plans to buy in 3 weeks. Are you buying from the store in Lake Sumter?

justjim 06-26-2012 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Down Sized (Post 510277)
I think what I was wanting was opinions on the brands because I'm thinking gas for either one.

Both brands are good. Personally I like Club Car and bought mine from Grandpa and Grandma Buggies on north 441 just north of 42. They are really "fine" people to deal with.

hdh1470 06-26-2012 03:19 PM

I would think that club car would be the better one because of having a oil pump.Would think engine would last longer.With yamaha and its system I would think lubing motor at higher rpm's might be a problem.maybe frank could respond.

2 Oldcrabs 06-26-2012 03:38 PM

Efi
 
Fuel injection is not new, but is new to Golf carts. I went with a carburetor. I never buy the 1st model year of a car and not willing to buy the 1st model fuel injection. Time will tell !:gc:

jimbo2012 06-26-2012 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by hdh1470 (Post 512227)
I would think that club car would be the better one because of having a oil pump.Would think engine would last longer.With yamaha and its system I would think lubing motor at higher rpm's might be a problem.

In the splash lubrication system, a dipper or slinger splashes oil through the internal parts of the engine. Oil is also splashed up to the valve mechanism.

No oil filter

In force-feed lubrication, pressure forces oil around the engine. In a wet-sump system, oil is kept in the sump ready for the next use. In a dry sump system, oil falls to the bottom of the engine and a scavenge pump sends it to an oil tank.

They both work on these small motors, can't say better or not, but pump pressure makes more sense and I like the oil filtered.

jane032657 06-26-2012 04:52 PM

Yes I bought from Joel at the store in The Villages and he is a riot to deal with. And very patient.

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Originally Posted by JSR22 (Post 512144)
That's the cart my husband plans to buy in 3 weeks. Are you buying from the store in Lake Sumter?


CarGuys 06-26-2012 11:40 PM

Huh!
 
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Originally Posted by gratton (Post 511212)
And are you plugging your cart into your neighbors electric because the way you post you don't mention the cost of the electricity for your cart.

Pennies on the dollar and I will have the new Factory released Solar Panel to increase range and battery life. And did I catch you sucking fuel form your neighbors car? That was me un pluggin a coke machine!:police:

CarGuys 06-26-2012 11:45 PM

Fumes
 
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Originally Posted by jgbama (Post 510742)
See. . .that's what happens when a guy like me (who isn't there yet and has no cart) makes an "assumption". . . y'all came to my rescue and set me straight. But, in my defense (which I must do) I have rented and used a gas cart. I guess the fumes I referred to were in the garage when I started up, etc.

Thanks for setting this "soon to be frog" on the straight and narrow! :bowdown: One day maybe we can all gather at a watering hole and the first round is on me! :beer3: That includes popcorn too Bill! :1rotfl:

What you smell is Raw Oxides of Nitrogen which leads to respiratory problems and or Raw unburned Hydro Carbons ( wasted Gas ) The Pop Bang ya all get in the tunnells letting off the gas. Carbs governor tampered with with no decel valve sucking to much raw fuel into the intake. Cannot burn it all bang bang and out the tail pipe into the face of the following cart goes the noxious emissions.

Cart was NOT designed to be rodded and driven like TV consumer does. And while most of you get on my case I talk with sales at Yamaha. Who laugh and say your right but why should we build a Villager Cart. You are nothing but a drop in the bucket of world wide Gas Cart sales. Ohhhhhh OH maybe we goofed! Hey come buy our new fuel injected Cart. They are getting closer to compliance.

Remember you cannot smell Carbon Monoxide. Just kinda kills ya quick!

CarGuys 06-26-2012 11:57 PM

Run
 
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Originally Posted by 2 Oldcrabs (Post 512238)
Fuel injection is not new, but is new to Golf carts. I went with a carburetor. I never buy the 1st model year of a car and not willing to buy the 1st model fuel injection. Time will tell !:gc:

E-15 Ethanol is coming . Run do not WALK away from a carb cart. Fuel injection is the way to go. Why they came out with it. Why NASCAR is using it. Yes them Carbs are gone! Carb Parts and engine performance cannot survive on e-15 + with a Carb system anymore. Unless you can get pure fuels at $4.75 a Gallon

CarGuys 06-27-2012 12:14 AM

Facts
 
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Originally Posted by thekeithfan (Post 511931)
So I take it you own an electric cart. Good for you. it's personal preference. How long have you had ele? and have you ever had a gas cart?
Before you try and give advice get the facts straight don't put info out there that's as one sided as a used car salesmans data. I know changing ones oil isn't for everyone I happen to like to do it. I've NEVER spilled any either I put an old paint roller pan under the cart you can't miss that.

Disposing of oil, getting gas it's the least I could do I'm retired I have nothing to do most days but recreate.

Carbon foot print? Please my "other" vehicle is a 6,000 pound 450 horsepower diesel.

Lets take you truck to the EPA lab in West Virginia and run it on a Dyno. We had this discusssion before, Your Diesel is more clean at 55 mph steady state speed in closed loop than the single cylinder Yamaha Carb cart is a 20.

A lawn mower produces more emission than a new Corvette BMW or Mustang Shelby. Are you ASE certified in emissions and engine performance? Are you a certified Automotive Technician/Diesel or Alternative Fuel Specialists?

I will agree people should drive both for a day or so before making a decision. It's a personal choice .

thekeithfan 06-27-2012 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by CarGuys (Post 512495)
Lets take you truck to the EPA lab in West Virginia and run it on a Dyno. We had this discusssion before, Your Diesel is more clean at 55 mph steady state speed in closed loop than the single cylinder Yamaha Carb cart is a 20.

A lawn mower produces more emission than a new Corvette BMW or Mustang Shelby. Are you ASE certified in emissions and engine performance? Are you a certified Automotive Technician/Diesel or Alternative Fuel Specialists?

I will agree people should drive both for a day or so before making a decision. It's a personal choice .

I'm still curious you own an electric cart? And I'm one of those odd balls that could not care about my carbon footprint really. Just me I could care less.

k2at 06-27-2012 06:30 AM

I agree with the last poster. There is no reason to keep a gas can in the garage, not that there is anything wrong with that. The gas carts will go 125 to 150 miles on one tankful. If in that distance u r not near a gas station, that is quite a feat. I fill my cart every two to three weeks and always go to a gas station. In short, getting gas is no problem at all.

2 Oldcrabs 06-27-2012 06:33 AM

Gas Carts
 
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Originally Posted by CarGuys (Post 512494)
E-15 Ethanol is coming . Run do not WALK away from a carb cart. Fuel injection is the way to go. Why they came out with it. Why NASCAR is using it. Yes them Carbs are gone! Carb Parts and engine performance cannot survive on e-15 + with a Carb system anymore. Unless you can get pure fuels at $4.75 a Gallon

My 2004 pickup and a whole lot of fuel injected cars will not run on E15. The last estimate I heard was 20k gas golf carts in TV. 99% not fuel injection. I guess we will all have to replace them. A good way to stimulate the economy!:what:

jimbo2012 06-27-2012 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by thekeithfan (Post 512515)
I'm one of those odd balls that could not care about my carbon footprint really. Just me I could care less.

I have never come across anyone that would say that, wow.

Question is why not?

zcaveman 06-27-2012 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CarGuys (Post 512495)
I will agree people should drive both for a day or so before making a decision. It's a personal choice .

You don't have to drive both for a day - just ride in both for a while. That tuned me straight to electic.


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