Does that mean you were shocked in to it? :a20:

Carbon Footprint
 

I am in the process of buying a Electric, I am torn between the quality of a Tomberlin and the New EZGO AC motor. As a tech teacher I buy form the bottom up. When Tomberlin had it LSV store open last year I would go over out back and look at the carts from the bottom up. I buy from the technicial side and vehicle constrution not how pretty it is or what famcy wheels are on it.

Now to be honest Tomberlin is in some trouble. I am not geeting feed back and response from the company like a year ago. That said I will buy the best I can where there is the best service and technicians. 95% of people buy a car or MC or Boat from the showroom. If you cannot go out back and bond with the service manager and talk with the technicians to see and hear their perspectives then you are sory ( Ignorant ) to the total operation of the business. Sales Sells- Service RETAINS CUSTOMERS!

Now I will have a electric cart. And now I do not wear a tied dyed shirt where mandels smoke weed and go out back and hug trees. I'm not into that carbon tracking. If you want to really get into that debate you start the Carbon Footprints from - the Oil Well- to Wheels to recycle yard . All vehicles follow that rule. Trains Planes Boats Cars Trucks etc.

I DO CARE ABOUT MY LUNGS! And the lungs of others that have to inhale second hand exhaust fumes from gas carts. The argument is it is no different tha, ( Another Post's ) a non smoker having to sit next to a smoker and inhale second hand fumes. And yes I quit but did smoke for over 15 years. No Halo on my head!

Some of us unfortunaltey have acquired Asthma conditionz that quickly worsens when Hydro Carbon Un burned Gas and patially burned Gas exhause is inhaled. There have been posts about a woman who visiting youn grand child became ill in the tunnells. And I suck it up and keep my mouth shut on the streets because most people just are not technicians and do not know or quite frankly care.

But if I can convince one person who is thinking of a clean quite electric cart that will work for them then I have done my part to save the lungs of others.

Technology is a wonderful thing. 5 years ago if I inhaled the particulates from a Diesel/Car tailpipe I would be dead. Today you can stand at the tail pipe and live.

Electric carts have gone through growing pains. They will evolve and get better with time. If the Yamaha Gas Carts would embrace the same technology as their Motorcyles Boat and RV engines then we would not be having this discussion. I would conside a Gas cart.

But as I said we are runing around the Villages with 1940 technology. They work they move us they last they are reliable. However they belch pollution.

Not back to my other duties- Reviewing the final chapters for a Automotive on-line text books new Hybrid Car Chapter. And yes I own a Prius. Soon a Plug in Prius. Then there is the Harley! Thats another story

What ever you buy, be sure that it is Villages ready. Without those enhancements, you WILL NOT be happy.

Reflash
 

It should run on it if a reflash program is made for the computer. Testing in Fla and other states has shown that currently we are using concentrations of ethanol all over the board. From 12-30% depending on the station remaining fuel in storage and the delivery system.

Many of my service technician friends are testing fuel concentrations to diag driveability problems

To ease your mind the new pumps will have selector controls that will allow older vehicles to use e-10 and flex fuel vehicles can use anything up to e-85

It was easy for them to make the fuel a nightmare for the infrastructure and the people with older vehicles. In NY all of a suddend this year we are seeing non-ethanol preminium at certain stations. You pay more for it.

Ethanol keeps the cost of our Gas down $1.00 or more. It's all a nightmare for the consumer.

I agree.

We purchased a used gas Yamaha four years ago. It is a four seater all facing front. It is still just fine.

The carts you see stranded or being towed are usually electric. But they are quiet and don't emit fumes.

It still is a highly personal choice. All we had to go on was our experince with the ones we used playing golf for forty years..... But here you need a dependable cart that can go for long distances.

Down Sized

I will be joining you on the Hill Side on Harston in Amelia in November. By then I will check with you to see how your choice worked out.

Looking forward to joining THE VILLAGE PEOPLE .

Take Care and safe travels

Jack

The general from people that I've spoken to is that Club Car makes the best electric and Yamaha makes the best gas cart.

What kind of upgrade did they do and what did it cost? I would love to get 60 miles on a charge.

Ezgo
 

Ezgo has the largest engine! 13hp engine! which has more hp! lower rpms! best fuel economy of the the others!
:spoken::spoken:

New (2012-1/2) fuel injected Yamaha Drive is 38% more fuel efficent than previous models.

some have suggested it gets 60 plus miles per gallon. I know I have to fill it every two months.
It depends on what your needs are. The convenience of knowing you can drive to any course play 18 and make it home is reassuring. (My golfing partners say if you go to Nancy Lopez (for example) make sure you have a full charge.

You may want to read the recent post regarding Tomberlin.

Par cars are recognized as having 60 to 80 range (and really BIG WHEELS)
THE 80 mile range should do the trick if you are interest in electric only vehicles.

Bill, we would never have anything but a Yamaha Gas Cart. We were also told the 2007 and up Yamaha Gas Carts have the brake system built into the transmission so the brakes never have to be replaced.

I have a 12 year old Yamaha gas and I change the oil twice a year, one quart of Mobile 1 each time, annual cost $13. I don't think you could outlast the engine (Kawasaki or Yamaha) for either model. I like the gas (vs electric) cheaper and I can go 3 to 4 hundered miles before I need to get to the station. I could drive to Daytona and back (twice) without getting gas!

I agree with all the previous posters. With proper maintenance, they are generally bullet proof and will run trouble free for years. If you find a used one that you feel is "the one", I would suggest bringing it to a mechanic for an inspection. May cost you some money, but well spent up front.