Originally Posted by PoolBrews (Post 2336491)

Both Star and Atlas are between $5K-$10K more than a comparable Evolution D5. In addition, the D5 has more features than either of them. Do yourself a favor and at least drive all of them and compare before a purchase.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2336506)

70-, 80- and 90-mile range----wait for it to be a few years old and see if that holds

Originally Posted by huge-pigeons (Post 2336890)

You want facts about EVs and lithium golf carts:
Both have the desired range of battery capacity: don’t go less than 20% of battery capacity or you can damage them, and don’t go over 80% and eventually you can do the same. So realistically, if your lithium golf cart claims 90 mile range, realistically it is 60% of that. You want proof, as any Tesla or EV owner and google it for lithium golf carts.

Also, you can damage lithium batteries if you run the battery down and you can’t leave them on the charger for a long length of time (ask any owner), so if you are a snowbird with a lithium cart, what are you going to do?

If you forget to charge your cart overnight and you are on the golf course with 10% battery life left, you don’t have the luxury of going to a gas station and fill up.

You do know, lithium batteries are classified as toxic and require special land sites to discard, similar to nuclear waste.

Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 2336792)

Yes, the number of Teslas in The Villages is impressive. There are 4 on my street of about 45 houses. There will soon be 5 as I am waiting for the Model Y refresh to become available. The Tesla Model Y is the best selling car in the world (gas or electric). I am typically not an early adopter of disruptive technologies. Lithium-ion powered golf carts and cars have now moved past the early adopter stage and into the mainstream. While I still like our gas Yamaha golf cart, our electric golf cart is superior in most ways. The only real advantage of our gas cart is the 250+ range vs. 60 mile range of our electric cart but that is essentially irrelevant for us since we never come close to 60 miles in a day. I suspect that new gas cart sales will essentially drop to less than a third within the next 5 years in The Villages.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2336514)

What facts do the pro EV people have? Even the OP stated they only had 25-mile range on their older electric cart. I also like the idea of quiet/no fumes electric carts, BUT.....they are not ready for prime time in a place as large as TV. When they have a reliable 80-mile range and no degradation for 10 years, I'm in. But anyone claiming that we are at that point now is delusional.

Originally Posted by Ducatigator (Post 2336824)

Hi Susan. They all come with an electric range gauge, similar to gas.

Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye (Post 2336955)

I take it you haven’t bought a lithium battery then?

Originally Posted by huge-pigeons (Post 2336890)

You want facts about EVs and lithium golf carts:
Both have the desired range of battery capacity: don’t go less than 20% of battery capacity or you can damage them, and don’t go over 80% and eventually you can do the same. So realistically, if your lithium golf cart claims 90 mile range, realistically it is 60% of that. You want proof, as any Tesla or EV owner and google it for lithium golf carts.

Also, you can damage lithium batteries if you run the battery down and you can’t leave them on the charger for a long length of time (ask any owner), so if you are a snowbird with a lithium cart, what are you going to do?

If you forget to charge your cart overnight and you are on the golf course with 10% battery life left, you don’t have the luxury of going to a gas station and fill up.

You do know, lithium batteries are classified as toxic and require special land sites to discard, similar to nuclear waste.

Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 2336969)

The 80% recommended charge limit is typically for the NMC chemistry. I believe you will find that most, perhaps all, golf cart battery packs are LFP, which are fine with 100% charging.

Originally Posted by phylt (Post 2336513)

yikes, the nay-sayers here. Just like the anti-Tesla folks.... What facts do you have to state this? And as I said before, we'd be very happy with 50 mile range... Next guy will say..."you'll need to pay $4,000 for a new battery in 4 years", or the so-unproven "It will catch on fire..."

What WE love is the smooth, quiet, and no-smell. BTW we are NOT "green-obsessed", just the opposite actually.

Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2336849)

Oh yeah, they're killing it in the USA. They have almost 4% of the market and slashing prices ever couple of month to get rid of inventory. Without government incentives, they wouldn't have managed to break 1% of the market.

(& Tesla doesn't have a vehicle in the Top 5 in the USA)

Originally Posted by phylt (Post 2336860)

Please, simply give it a break. Your initial (many) posts, including the harsh "delusional" comment were combative. Now, the attempt to justify indicates the weakness of your argument.

The post count matter appears true for many posters on TOTV. The one-liner responses, and the continual obsessive follow-up.

And NOW the topic of "global warming".... I mentioned before that we are NOT 'Greenies' , actually the OPPOSITE. We simply like new tech, the quiet, the smoothness, the no-smell. period. So DO NOT plug us into a certain group that you may dislike.

My focus on opening this Thread was simply to offer information to Villagers who may be interested in a new Lithium golf cart. We are so very impressed with ours. But did not think that some here, esp 'GE' would strike out with obsessive negative posts (IMO).

Please let it go....

Originally Posted by phylt (Post 2336873)

Not really 'GE'. Your past combative comments were like YOU are a cat person. And anyone that loves dogs is on the wrong side. Like... How can you like DOGS? they need walks a couple times per day... they slobber...they shed....they can pee in the house....they need haircuts...they..yada yada yada.

Slam any dog owners or those contemplating getting a dog with your views. Call them Delusional if they consider a dog...

So, NOT like cats vs dogs.... nice try...