Originally Posted by phylt (Post 2337054)

All true - BUT LFP (Lithium Iron Phosphate)batteries on EVs, like our Tesla, CAN, and SHOULD be charged to 100%. Tesla states to Charger to 100% at least once per week to maintain battery health - this is for LFP primarily. The reason to charge an LFP battery to 100% once a week is to recalibrate the Battery Management System and to balance the charge across all the cells. The voltage of an LFP cell varies very little between 90% and 100%, so the BMS needs an occasional 100% charge to recalibrate.

SAME for our Custom Drive Lithium Cart. Simply plug it in and forget it. The battery management system does it all.

Originally Posted by phylt (Post 2337051)

Yes, your postings were FUD (fear/uncertainty/doubt) re LITHIUM. Not ready for prime time, the hazards, the incorrect range etc etc, Yeah pretty simple.

So many posts here have rebutted your arguments, but STILL....

Yes we can have Opinions, but to disparage others - even with FACTS has gotten very old. Give it up.

Originally Posted by phylt (Post 2337052)

...and again the name-calling. Just another indication of pompous rudeness.

Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2336418)

I've want to type that, at least 5 times today.

Thanks for saving everyone the trouble, because I'm sure there were a lot more people in that boat.

Based on the tone of the recommendations, I'd say there was some justifying or quid pro quo going on.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2337075)

Amazing how easy it is to get the electric cart owners all riled up. The logical conclusion is that are insecure about their choice. Or as Shakespear put it "Methinks the lady doth protest too much". Anyway, my work here is done, maybe I'll move on to "cat people"

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2336530)

And I'd like to replace my 10-year-old gas cart with electric as well. But I would prefer an 80-mile range, and more than an "assumption" that the battery only degrades 2%/year.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2337099)

#6) In the future there will be charges everywhere just like gas stations are now. And BATTERY TECHNOLOGY will NOT stand still (science never stops). Batteries in the future will be lighter, smaller, and hold MORE charge.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2336514)

What facts do the pro EV people have? Even the OP stated they only had 25-mile range on their older electric cart. I also like the idea of quiet/no fumes electric carts, BUT.....they are not ready for prime time in a place as large as TV. When they have a reliable 80-mile range and no degradation for 10 years, I'm in. But anyone claiming that we are at that point now is delusional.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2337088)

To me,the most important advantage of an E-cart or vehicle over a reciprocating gas or diesel vehicle is greater reliability due to fewer parts and a circular moving motor (not slamming up and down with pistons). I can think of many more advantages, but that would be #1 with me.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2336514)

What facts do the pro EV people have? Even the OP stated they only had 25-mile range on their older electric cart. I also like the idea of quiet/no fumes electric carts, BUT.....they are not ready for prime time in a place as large as TV. When they have a reliable 80-mile range and no degradation for 10 years, I'm in. But anyone claiming that we are at that point now is delusional.

Originally Posted by phylt (Post 2336538)

Oh thanks for the not-delusional remark. Some folks here can be "my views are Correct, and nothing you say will change that". I'm simply providing information regarding US and our experience. But as usual here, it leaves one open for bashing and name-calling. So be it....

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2336602)

No idea what you are talking about. What is a "post count"???

And, no, I don't own an EV....yet. But I will when it is ready for prime time. Meanwhile, my knowledge about EV's, their range and battery life comes from posts by people who DO own them.

Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2336717)

I keep hearing this 80-90 mile range for Lithium Golf Carts ... nonsense.

I have a Star EV, 210 Amp.

I had a Star EV 120 Amp as a loaner for a week.

Your battery gauge is non-linear folks. Just because you get 35 miles and your gauge says 50%, don't count on it.

The 120 Amp I had, showed 1/2 charge at 18 miles. It really had about 3 miles left or 1 mile less than I needed.

Carts in The Villages are driven "pedal to the metal", almost all the time. If you don't believe that, go drive around in your cart at 17 mph and see if anyone stays behind you for more than 2 minutes.

As others have said, the general degradation of Lithium depends on a lot of factors and they don't seem enough have been in use, long enough to actually quantify what's really going to happen.

In the meantime, I wouldn't gamble on that 80-90 mile range. If I get 45-50 out my 210 AMP, I figure I'm doing ok.