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Maker 06-03-2024 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2337296)
I wonder what happens with the EZGO when the driver just "taps" the brake pedal to get a slight slowdown.It seems like that would confuse the engine and would it reverse for just a short time and then go back to forward. Apparently it works, but i don't see why not have regular friction brakes in combination with motor reversal ?

The original message was the cart uses reverse motor braking...

That does not mean the motor turns in "reverse". The motor is electronically changed into operating as a generator. The cart's forward motion is now used to drive the motor. Since operating in generator mode, the motor consumes the kinetic energy of movement, converting it into electricity. In other words, the motor becomes a mini power generation plant. The generation slows the cart, and recharges the battery at the same time.
Also called braking regen.
This captures kinetic as electricity to be used to get moving. Net overall saving battery use to extend range.

DaddyD 06-03-2024 11:18 AM

This thread is a perfect example of why "The Villages" / "Villagers" have the negative reputation it / they do amongst the general public.

MorTech 06-03-2024 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2337296)
I wonder what happens with the EZGO when the driver just "taps" the brake pedal to get a slight slowdown.It seems like that would confuse the engine and would it reverse for just a short time and then go back to forward. Apparently it works, but i don't see why not have regular friction brakes in combination with motor reversal ?

Just as soon as you take your foot off the accelerator the motor braking starts...Pressing the brake pedal just increases motor braking. The only time you really need to use the brake is coming to a complete stop. One-pedal driving is 95%. You have to experience the EZGO RXV Elite...The "brakes" are excellent and very touchy. I would buy one but they cost far more than I am willing to pay. I borrow my neighbor's. I have about $8000 into my cart and that includes the lithium pack I built.

Actually, I think I would buy an Atlas 210ah cart instead of the EZGO...If my name was Rothschild. :)

MorTech 06-03-2024 11:48 AM

I meant to state "1000s of EVs" Not just Teslas.

MorTech 06-03-2024 11:50 AM

400K miles? Just go to cars.com and select all and sort by highest mileage. Most of them are trucks.

MorTech 06-03-2024 11:55 AM

Nuclear waste is stored submerged in water...Why would you submerge a lithium battery in water when you can just recycle it? :)

UpNorth 06-03-2024 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2336336)
We purchased a new Custom Drive golf cart from Village Discount Golf Car. We bought at their 466 location just east of Morse Blvd. Their main location is in Summerfield.
Happened to stop there and took one for a test drive. We had a 48v batt cart and tired of range issues, lucky to get 25 miles.
The “C4” cart is amazing. 90 mile range with excellent lithium battery. Way too many features for me to list here. It’s truly like a Tesla.
I will not post the price of the new cart, but it is such a bargain.
Our sales rep was David Bailey, a very nice man- no pressure at all. Lots of colors avail and either black or tan seats.
We’ve had ours for a month now and so very impressed. And their service and prep is wonderful.

Highly recommend to check out the Custom Drive carts there. More info customdrive.com. Here’s a pic from their site.

I offer this information solely to assist others that may be in the market for a great Lithium Electric golf cart. Their # 352 633 4440. Or David at 401 345 7620

Back to that photo of that Custom Drive golf cart. I may be wrong, but it sure looks like one of those cheap carts you can buy direct on the Chinese Alibaba website and others.I would not be surprised if they just have a load of these shipped over and marked way up. Maybe add a few accessory items to make you think that it is made here in the USA.

jimjamuser 06-03-2024 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Maker (Post 2337338)
The original message was the cart uses reverse motor braking...

That does not mean the motor turns in "reverse". The motor is electronically changed into operating as a generator. The cart's forward motion is now used to drive the motor. Since operating in generator mode, the motor consumes the kinetic energy of movement, converting it into electricity. In other words, the motor becomes a mini power generation plant. The generation slows the cart, and recharges the battery at the same time.
Also called braking regen.
This captures kinetic as electricity to be used to get moving. Net overall saving battery use to extend range.

Now that explanation does make a lot of sense. The initial one I read did NOT.

jimjamuser 06-03-2024 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maker (Post 2337338)
The original message was the cart uses reverse motor braking...

That does not mean the motor turns in "reverse". The motor is electronically changed into operating as a generator. The cart's forward motion is now used to drive the motor. Since operating in generator mode, the motor consumes the kinetic energy of movement, converting it into electricity. In other words, the motor becomes a mini power generation plant. The generation slows the cart, and recharges the battery at the same time.
Also called braking regen.
This captures kinetic as electricity to be used to get moving. Net overall saving battery use to extend range.

I can understand that when you take your foot off of the accelerator the vehicles momentum keeps the motor turning, which then produces current like a generator and that then could help keep the battery charged. BUT, if you then need to make an emergency stop, you would HAVE to put your foot on the BRAKE. And I can't see how you would get enough braking force to stop the vehicle WITHOUT disc or drum brakes. I can see that eventually the turning of the generator would SLOW the vehicle, but not for an emergency stop.

jimjamuser 06-03-2024 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 2337364)
Just as soon as you take your foot off the accelerator the motor braking starts...Pressing the brake pedal just increases motor braking. The only time you really need to use the brake is coming to a complete stop. One-pedal driving is 95%. You have to experience the EZGO RXV Elite...The "brakes" are excellent and very touchy. I would buy one but they cost far more than I am willing to pay. I borrow my neighbor's. I have about $8000 into my cart and that includes the lithium pack I built.

Actually, I think I would buy an Atlas 210ah cart instead of the EZGO...If my name was Rothschild. :)

Thanks, I now understand it a little better. Not perfectly. I probably should GOOGLE it.

BrianL99 06-03-2024 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyD (Post 2337355)
This thread is a perfect example of why "The Villages" / "Villagers" have the negative reputation it / they do amongst the general public.


You're right about that.

Everywhere I go, I hear people saying ... "those damn Villagers, they can't even decide on whether to own a gas golf cart or an electric golf cart".

MikeVillages 06-03-2024 03:08 PM

I took a test drive today. The C2 is 2 seat, C4 is 4 seats. The acceleration was very quick, the top indicated speed I got was 21 mph. The auto braking was more aggressive than I liked but the salesman said they can adjust that. The included backup camera is useful. Seat Belts are included. A fob is better then a mechanical key imo.

The “sale" price was ~$14,000 + tax for the C2 but many things go on sale & maybe off then back on sale all the time so people feel pressure to buy. Accessories like fender lighting (a must have safety item in my opinion), side rain protection, ect are extra. We would consider it if we did not already have a golf cart but also feel new golf carts are overpriced.

dewilson58 06-03-2024 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVillages (Post 2337415)
I took a test drive today.

How was the ride???

Have not been on an electric that rides as nice as the newer Yamaha's.

Thanks for the info.

Altavia 06-03-2024 04:37 PM

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