Thanks, Tal,

These pics are wonderful. Happy to see some little guys (like my Finley) as well as larger.

Some dogs would be happy to lie in the sun in the yard of a CYV or one of the ranches with a fence. Others, like mine, would be noisy out there - especially with a fence as opposed to a villa wall - so the fences do concern me.

I agree with the RDOG post that dogs are a fact in TV. If we are responsible pet owners, we need to ensure that our pets do not impinge on our neighbor's paradise by excessive noise - not just by going potty inappropriately.

We just closed today. My husband is trying to make the meeting; I am still in SC for another couple of weeks. Dog parks are part of the answer - but they will not eliminate (no pun intended) owners who are not being responsible.

k

The fence around the Ranch Home is the same type of fence that is around the Courtyard Villas. I really don't understand why that concerns you, unless you assume the dogs will be left unattended just because they have a fence. I have seen many dogs on chains/ropes in their yards that bark everytime someone walks by and others that never make a sound. My dogs are never left unattended even in our fenced yard.

How many times a day would a dog owner take their dog to the dog park?

I agree that more Dog Parks are required.

We love our fenced courtyard villa, but we also visit Doggie Doo Run Run daily.

Most dog owners in TV are very clean and responsible. It is just a few that give dogs a bad bark.

We go at least once, and often twice a day.

For a monthly fee of $25, you can go as often as you want. For a monthly fee of $30, you can take two dogs .. we think it is great value!

Bare,

Love the new pic of Lolli Pup

k

We usually go twice a day; early in the mornings while it is still reasonably cool outside and then again late in the afternoon before closing time. Only about a 5-7 minute drive for me.

Bare,

your Lollie is gorgeous, she has a face to die for and I love it when she talks??LOL! Wishing you many happy years with your "new kid on the block!"

Fences is the only way to go there are restriction for everything yoy can't do whatever you want to your house, so why wouldn't there be restriction on the type of fences allowed. People should be alot more talerate. Dogs bark, Grandkids makes noise and old people are hard of hearing. my point is get over it!!!

One more thing I'll bet my two dogs are alot quieter and better behaved than your grandchidren. I know they are better behaved than mine, I love my Grandkids, but they are loud and messy.

One more thing I'm all for doggie runs, the more the merrier, but we still need fences. My dogs are like me old and fat, nieter of us would use a playground for dogs.

No fences.

Someone got out of the wrong side of the bed....
 

I have tried for two days to let this go, why it bothers me...I dont know :shrug:. But I have been on this site for quite some time, just posted yesterday or so and got slammed for asking a question about fences. Thank goodness I know there are wonderful people on here....which helped me make my decision to move to TV, but if a new person were to read the sarcastic reply I got yesterday by just asking about fences, I am sure they would have bolted :duck:. In reply to the very rude reply made by the above RDO, I do not need to explain myself, but to the other wonderful folks here...I only asked about fences because I have two precious golden retrievers, and thought a fence would give them some fresh air outside. I would never leave them and go party at the pool, etc. I would put them inside, which they are fine with, and dont bark or cause problems. As per the above rude comment, I was only searching for a home were my dogs would be comfortable and I wouldnt have to worry about them. I would never leave them alone to bark or bother my neighbors. I love the idea of the doggie parks, if I lived there I would be at your meeting. My house is ready to sell, and I am planning on being a year round resident at TV, but I feel the comment made by RDO was totally inappropriate and rude. I am sorry for venting, if I offended anyone I certainly didnt mean to, I really am a nice, quiet, happy person. :girlneener:

It is always difficult for people unfamiliar with The Villages to accept that only Courtyard Villas have fenced yards (other than a few "experiments" in Hemmingway"). If you have dogs, a CYV will make your life way, way easier. (This is a picture of Lolli in the back yard of our fenced CYV).

Thanks Kate and Nonie, for the compliments on Lolli Pup. It is difficult for us to believe she has had five homes in the past two years. She is a darling and she will never have to worry about being "recycled" again. She is very strong willed, but eager to please and very accepting of learning her boundaries.

And now Obama also has a Portugese Water Dog. His family is in for a real treat! They are wonderful dogs.

Lolli Pup is very cute Barefoot.
 

Hope you take her to the Doggie Doo Run Run sometime while I am there with my dog.

Thank you Barefoot....
 

Lolli is absolutely adorable! I am sure she is thrilled to finally found a great home. :). The fence in your yard is perfect, just like what we have here. I have looked at so many houses online at TV and hadnt seen that fence, so thank you very much. You have a very nice yard. Someone sent me a link of photos of the Doggie Doo Run Run and it looks like alot of fun! Bubba and Murphy love to play with other doggies :coolsmiley:. Thanks to you and Halle, now I know where to start, cause if I am lucky enough to sell soon I will have lots to do to get this dream of TV in gear! :pepper2:

Fences would not be a problem, many restricted neibhorhoods have fences.

Pretty much irrelevant here in the Villages. As others have posted here, fences are only allowed in certain neighborhoods, per Covenants and Restrictions.

Another topic: Is there any reason people with dogs cannot/will not train their pet to do their business on their own property?

And the obvious follow-on: Why to many pet owners feel its okay to use others property for their bathroom, common areas or private?
:cus:

Many of the dogs in the Villages are rescue dogs.
 

If you have a puppy it would probably be pretty easy to train it to poop and pee in the street. Except that many people in TV seem to have rescue dogs which are usually older dogs rather set in their ways. http://www.buzzle.com/articles/tips-...lder-dogs.html

Dog parks seems to be the answer to this problem.

Probably the phrase, "I'm gonna take the dog for a walk" applies here. Nice day, sunny, gonna take the dog for a leisurly 1 hr walk... suddenly, 1/2 hr into the walk... oops, get out the baggie.

Most Villagers probably do carry a baggie for poop.
 

But, rarely can you get a dog to poop out in the street. They choose their spots for where they drop a load. Then the responsible owner picks it up. That's the law in many urban areas that the dog owner has to pick up his or her pet's mess.

Please explain how dog parks will eliminate dogs pooping and peeing on lawns and "common areas".

Jeanne dont let one grouch spoil it for you. I have a white vinyl privacy fence where i live at present and it safely contains my two Cavalier King Charles Spaniels so that they can run and play safely. When we sell here and move to the Villages (soon I hope) we will buy a Courtyard Villa so that we enjoy the same privacy. I dont hear other dogs barking as described previously. Fences make good neighbors. I cannot walk my dogs because I am handicapped. So is my husband so the back yard is a necessary item for two active pups. We love watching them chase each other and romp around.

Thank you so much MaryAnn...
 

:;QUOTE=SUNNYMARYANN;199130]Jeanne dont let one grouch spoil it for you. I have a white vinyl privacy fence where i live at present and it safely contains my two Cavalier King Charles Spaniels so that they can run and play safely. When we sell here and move to the Villages (soon I hope) we will buy a Courtyard Villa so that we enjoy the same privacy. I dont hear other dogs barking as described previously. Fences make good neighbors. I cannot walk my dogs because I am handicapped. So is my husband so the back yard is a necessary item for two active pups. We love watching them chase each other and romp around.[/QUOTE]

Thank you for your nice post, your doggies are beautiful! I too love watching my doggies romp with each other! I appreciate you understanding, thats all I was looking for, so now I know to look for a Courtyard Villa. I'm sorry you and your husband are handicapped, when you and I get there I would be happy to help you. I have a bad back so walking my dogs all day, especially two golden's would be quite a task lol. I have raised them since they were pups and I have been home with them all along, they dont bark (as accused of lol lol). :shrug:. Gonna go look for some CYV online now :2excited:. Thanks again :pepper2:

The dogs would poop and pee in the dog park area and not on lawns and common areas. Owners would, of course, clean up after their pets.

Hundreds of dogs use Doggie Doo Run Run for exercise and bathroom duties. Owners pay a monthly fee. The DDRR people pick up after the dogs. Works perfectly.

Convenents and restrictions can be changed. Fences would solve so many problems, not everyone wants to or can afford to buuy a CYV, but would be interested in buying in the older sections of the villlages. My dogs,Both are Shrzer mixes, are important to my wife and I. There happiness is inportant to us, and as I've been told by a few people on this friendly site, that if I don't like the rules, well maybe you should look someplace else to live. That's not an answer I've been talking about fences being allowed here for a couple years now. I hope that maybe the idea of approved fences in the villages will become a reality. Fences will not bother anyone and those who don't like the idea should stop worring about what everyone else is doing and mind there own bussiness.

Buc, I know that you are a fence advocate. I would never suggest that you move if you don't like the rules in TV. There is nothing wrong with trying to change existing covenants. And you're right that it would provide more choices than CYVs for those of us with dogs. But I don't see it happening. Ever. I just don't think there is enough resident support for the idea.

A Courtyard Villa wouldn't have been my first choice for a home, and I think they are overpriced in comparison to other homes. But I've grown very fond of our Villa, and the fence solves a multitude of problems.

We've adapted to the restrictions in TV by making it a priority to visit the Dog Park once or twice a day. It would make life easier for a lot of pet owners if there were dog parks provided in each quadrant of TV. It would also be a plus for those who don't enjoy dogs .. it would get the dogs off the streets and away from the postal stations.

Do you think a meeting with the powers that be in The Villages to discuss putting in Doggie Parks in each village could accomplish any favorable results?

Unless you walk your dog 1/2 mile to the dog park.... another, "oops, get out the baggie"...

:agree::agree:

Unfortunately I don't believe more dog parks will prevent people from allowing their dogs to use their neighbors yards and common areas to relieve themselves. I see many people out walking their dogs early in the morning when I'm jogging and the primary purpose is for the dogs to relieve themselves. I don't think the majority of them will go to the Dog Parks every time Mother Nature calls. I think part of the solution is for people to be more considerate and to try to get their dogs to use their own yards. I know this can be done because my dogs won't go anywhere but their yard. We are actually trying to train our dogs to go in designated areas at roadside parks so we can take them with us on short trips. Any ideas of how to do this is appreciated.

I do support more Dog Parks as part of the solution.

Halle

I see an opportunity here to make some money. Any venture capitalists out there... wanna invest in my new company: Doggie Dypes... attends for your pooch. ???

No fences.

How many trips to the ddr would one have to make to eliminate going on lawns?

:pepper2:

:coolsmiley:

When I finally get down there I really, really hope I have nice neighbors, not busy- bodies, ready and looking forward to reporting any rules infaction not matter how minor. Some people are just plan miserable and they aren't happy until they make everyone as miserable as they are. I plan on enjoying my retirement and NOT worring about what other people are doing or not doing.

BE HAPPY! You live in the greatest place I've ever seen. Enjoy it.

BUC,,

you are so right on! wish there was a way to banish all grumps from The Villages!

The other day I turned around in a driveway because i overshot the street i wanted and a major craba** came flying down his driveway shaking his fists at me and screaming on top of his lungs that he was going to make me pay for his driveway when I wear it out!:shrug:

I apologized and told him it wouldnt happen again. I know I was wrong but geeeezzzzz!!!:ohdear:

One of the reasons it is the greatest place is, most people follow the rules.

Ode to a dog park...
 

There is no one perfect solution for keeping dogs and people happy in a high-density area such as TV. It is a truly wonderful magical place.

There will always be those who allow their dogs to pee and poop wherever. There will be those who allow their dogs outdoors or on the lanai to bark all day. Before you tell me your dogs are better behaved than... please read a recent thread about folks in Duval who had guests and 6 or 7 dogs on the lanai barking.

For the rest of us dog parks would be part of the solution. I personally always have our dog relieve himself on our property before we go for a walk. That said, he is a dog! He may need to go again before we get home. In that case, the street or a common area is best. We have a little "purse" that strips onto his leash so poop bags are always at hand.

Some homes in TV have fences - those cute ranches in Hemingway and the CYVs. For new buyers, I think those are your choices for now. You could also choose to lobby for them in new areas being developed - then prospective buyers will know that they are allowed in that area and make a decision based on that. I would not want fences in my new neighborhood and would be opposed to changing the rules.

One thing that hasn't come up is Invisible Fences. Are they allowed in TV? If so, that may be an option for some that only want a fence to keep their dogs safe.

Kate

Some of the people at Doggie Doo Run Run who are Villagers...
 

...have invisble fences for their dogs. You would probably have to check your Village deed covenants and restrictions though.

Thanks, Tal..

I can tell you are a dog lover.

We would rather go to DDRR (my husband plans to try it on Saturday) or a new dog park when that happens. Finley is happiest where we are. If we are in the yard, I can put him on a long leash and he will be fine.

I was just floating an option for some who would like a fence...


Kate

Invisible fencing is allowed in The Village of Amelia. We have several neighbors who have used it and it works very well for them. Once the dogs are trained they remove the training collars and the dogs remain in the invisibly fenced area. I personally would still need to be outside with my dogs but this would certainly give them more freedom to run and play.