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rshoffer 04-17-2009 10:06 AM

All this talk about doggie poop.... let me change the perspective (aka hijack the thread). It is not only dogs who leave a mess behind. 2 days ago it rained over an inch. That evening I was entering the Colony Cottage Rec Center. Just outside the main entrance is a beautiful round flower garden. Because of all the rain, there was about 1/2 inch of pooled water in this large circle. The pooled water was completel full of crummy cigarette butts. 5 feet away was a canaster to place butts in...

mfp509 04-17-2009 10:09 AM

When I walk my dog I always have poop bags with me. I know her schedule so we head for a common area at the end of the street and I pick up. When we are just walking around the neighborhood and I know she will want to sniff and piddle, she knows what "on the edge" means - she is not allowed to walk up onto any lawns - she can piddle on the edge which is mostly on the street.

Taltarzac 04-19-2009 06:43 AM

The pavement in the Villages often gets too hot...
 
...to walk the dog during the day especially from May through September or so and between say 10:00 a.m. and 5:00 p.m.

So, a local dog park would also be good for people with dogs here in TV for that reason. I usually golf cart my dog to a common area during those times. There is a park close by-- Lake Miona Park-- but it is not accessible to golf carts.

JeanneBeannie 04-19-2009 07:33 AM

Good Info Halle....
 
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Originally Posted by Halle (Post 199355)
Invisible fencing is allowed in The Village of Amelia. We have several neighbors who have used it and it works very well for them. Once the dogs are trained they remove the training collars and the dogs remain in the invisibly fenced area. I personally would still need to be outside with my dogs but this would certainly give them more freedom to run and play.


That is good to know that the invisible fences are allowed, just in case I cant find a home with a fence. However lol, I am just like you....I would have to be outside with them too. I bought the whole system and the collars when I moved here, cause the first few days they would bolt in the woods everytime they saw a deer lol! :faint:. It was too nerve wracking for me (I am a worry wart lol) I was so afraid they would run away. :blahblahblah: Long story short, the invisible fence is still in the box and I made them a large fenced in area lol. But it is good to know that they do work...thanks Halle! :coolsmiley:

JeanneBeannie 04-19-2009 07:49 AM

Amen to that lol....
 
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Originally Posted by nONIE (Post 199270)
BUC,,

you are so right on! wish there was a way to banish all grumps from The Villages!

The other day I turned around in a driveway because i overshot the street i wanted and a major craba** came flying down his driveway shaking his fists at me and screaming on top of his lungs that he was going to make me pay for his driveway when I wear it out!:shrug:

I apologized and told him it wouldnt happen again. I know I was wrong but geeeezzzzz!!!:ohdear:


I have a idea...we can be neighbors!! :pepper2: No grumps allowed lol chilout. I am probably gonna get yelled at again lol lol :shrug:. So before I do let me save "someone" the problem lol :bowdown:. I absolutely support the doggie parks, I think its a wonderful idea! However I have a new brainstorm :icon_wink:. For when my doggies have to "go" lol, I plan on letting them relieve themselves on my own lawn and just pick it up right away. And...I just saw a cool idea this morning on "house selling tips" and they have something called "Astro Spray Paint" for those little yellow spots our doggies leave behind lol. :coolsmiley:

3bells 11-08-2009 07:33 PM

Invisible fences do not work for every dog. Ours has such a high pain threshhold the current would have to be so high he would be electrocuted if a squirrel ran by outside the fence. Ask your vet about which breeds often can not be contained in an invisible fence before you invest.

We live in a neighborhood with a covenant against fences. (Bought pre-dog.) He goes in our yard unless out for a walk. Wherever; we pick up after him. He is always on leash. We love our neighbors and they have elected my husband as president of our association for eleven years. Never met a grump who didn't fall in love with our dog.

But now I want to move somewhere we can have a fence so I can sit out and watch him chase his toys and play. We are renting for three months at the villages (thankfully where there is a fenced in back yard.) But it sounds as though we will be overly limited if we decide to buy (one of the reasons we wanted to rent, to try it out).

Worse. I've heard so much about the friendliness of everyone that it sounded wonderful. Now I find out there are grumps. Sad.

Tweety Bird 11-08-2009 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ooper (Post 196153)
Common areas are not owned by the individuals... they can include the areas around the postal stations, along the main roads, parks, etc.

What if the dog can't wait? I have a dog that when he reaches any kind of "green grass" he pees. My question is...is it a NO NO for my dog to pee on someone else's lawn? What if he's past my lawn and then decides to piddle on someone else's? Shall I give him a lecture? That is SO hard to control. It's a DOG, for pete's sake. :confused:

barb1191 11-08-2009 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tweety Bird (Post 232767)
What if the dog can't wait? I have a dog that when he reaches any kind of "green grass" he pees. My question is...is it a NO NO for my dog to pee on someone else's lawn? What if he's past my lawn and then decides to piddle on someone else's? Shall I give him a lecture? That is SO hard to control. It's a DOG, for pete's sake. :confused:

I would imagine that, if you start out by walking your dog around your own property until he/she has done the duty and then take a walk with the pup and do not go on private property, that seems the proper thing to do.

I feel particularly strong about this because, living on a corner lot, it seems all dog-walkers would come up on our lawn and not always clean up after. Very very annoying and not in compliance with TV covenants, when imposing on private property.

Animal lover? Oh yes I am, very much so. I used to breed miniature poodles for many years and they were a huge part of our life. We are unable to have a pet now due to illness. When we're up North summers we have two adorable Jack Russell's that we adore belonging to my daughter's family and since we have an inlaw attached to her home, we have many visits from the pups and love it.

Yes, please curb your dog.....b

Tweety Bird 11-09-2009 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by barb1191 (Post 232790)
I would imagine that, if you start out by walking your dog around your own property until he/she has done the duty and then take a walk with the pup and do not go on private property, that seems the proper thing to do.

I feel particularly strong about this because, living on a corner lot, it seems all dog-walkers would come up on our lawn and not always clean up after. Very very annoying and not in compliance with TV covenants, when imposing on private property.

Animal lover? Oh yes I am, very much so. I used to breed miniature poodles for many years and they were a huge part of our life. We are unable to have a pet now due to illness. When we're up North summers we have two adorable Jack Russell's that we adore belonging to my daughter's family and since we have an inlaw attached to her home, we have many visits from the pups and love it.

Yes, please curb your dog.....b

Yes, you're right. It makes sense. Now I'm weirding out. I bought a corner lot! CRAP!

barb1191 11-09-2009 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Tweety Bird (Post 232830)
Yes, you're right. It makes sense. Now I'm weirding out. I bought a corner lot! CRAP!

Uh oh....I should have been more precise in noting "corner lot." Our corner lot abuts a common area, thus dogwalkers heading for that common area often would use our lawn as well.

Not to worry.....All "corner lots" are not alike and our problem is solved because we have wonderful neighbors who, when approached with our situation, respect our request to curb your dog.

Talk Host 11-09-2009 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tweety Bird (Post 232767)
What if the dog can't wait? I have a dog that when he reaches any kind of "green grass" he pees. My question is...is it a NO NO for my dog to pee on someone else's lawn? What if he's past my lawn and then decides to piddle on someone else's? Shall I give him a lecture? That is SO hard to control. It's a DOG, for pete's sake. :confused:

People say their dog is a member of the family. Can every member of the family pee on your lawn? :jester:

Tweety Bird 11-13-2009 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Talk Host (Post 232868)
People say their dog is a member of the family. Can every member of the family pee on your lawn? :jester:

well, I'm giving him away to a "forever family". I just can't deal with it.

SUNNYMARYANN 11-13-2009 08:12 PM

I agree with Halle. I have a vinyl privacy fenced yard that is completely enclosed,yet we do not leave our dogs out back unattended. We pick up after them and that is not a problem either. In our age restricted subdivision, we can only have one type of fence unless the house is on a corner, they can have a white vinyl picket fence. Others have the six foot white vinyl privacy fencing. Limiting the type of fencing would solve the problem of a conglomeration of types of fences and it does give a uniform appearance. Some older people like us are disabled and cannot take our dogs walking or to a doggie park. I occasionally have someone from an adjoining subdivision walking a dog who takes a dump on the front lawn, but one time they see me at the window, they usually pick it up. If not, then out comes my scooper and plastic bag. Buc, we are old and fat, so I understand what you are saying. It may well be time for TV to reconsider the need for and use of fences.

Tweety Bird 11-16-2009 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Talk Host (Post 232868)
People say their dog is a member of the family. Can every member of the family pee on your lawn? :jester:

hahahaha...you're so funny! I'm trying REALLY hard to teach my husband to pee in the toilet first! :evil6:

SUNNYMARYANN 11-16-2009 07:57 PM

Give it up Tweety, after 54 years he still hasnt learned how to aim.

Tweety Bird 11-16-2009 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SUNNYMARYANN (Post 233949)
Give it up Tweety, after 54 years he still hasnt learned how to aim.

I have a cleaning lady that comes bi-monthly to clean after him. It's the inbetween times I'd wish she was there too. Are there cabana boys in TV? Oh, that's right, can't build a private cabana. :1rotfl: I'll have to find another cleaning lady. Or..shall I have to actually clean it myself? :shrug:

dillywho 11-16-2009 11:52 PM

Sign
 
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Originally Posted by SUNNYMARYANN (Post 233949)
Give it up Tweety, after 54 years he still hasnt learned how to aim.

Saw a sign once in a bathroom: "In case of attack, jump in the commode...it hasn't been hit yet." Maybe she needs one in hers.:duck:

Mo779 11-17-2009 06:44 AM

Utility Right of Ways
 
Seems like lots of folks up here don't know (or want to understand) that in most cases, a good part (an area bordering the street) of "their yard" is, in fact, a utility right-of-way easement, NOT owned by the home owner!

Aceskaters 11-17-2009 09:22 AM

Geez, Nonie,
Fortunately we are not all like your craba** friend...someone was turning around in my driveway yesterday and unfortunately they left before I could get the fresh-baked cookies out to them. You can turn around in my driveway anytime.

Tweety Bird 11-18-2009 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mo779 (Post 234021)
Seems like lots of folks up here don't know (or want to understand) that in most cases, a good part (an area bordering the street) of "their yard" is, in fact, a utility right-of-way easement, NOT owned by the home owner!

Are you implying dogs can poop there? :crap2:

rshoffer 11-18-2009 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mo779 (Post 234021)
Seems like lots of folks up here don't know (or want to understand) that in most cases, a good part (an area bordering the street) of "their yard" is, in fact, a utility right-of-way easement, NOT owned by the home owner!

Now THERE is a can-of-worms....!

UGA fan 01-01-2010 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LindaB (Post 196024)
It is only common courtesy to curb your dog. Take the dog to a common area and pick up after him. if the dog can’t make it he will do his or her business in the street. Control the leash; do not let your dog pull toward your neighbor’s yard.
Remember you are the master. Please be respectful.

I totally agree. I have two neighbors that walk out their front door and straight to my yard to let their dogs do their business. They do pick up after them, but why can't they let the dog go in their yard? Very disrespectable. Can't understand it.

Bogie Shooter 01-01-2010 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by UGA fan (Post 240657)
I totally agree. I have two neighbors that walk out their front door and straight to my yard to let their dogs do their business. They do pick up after them, but why can't they let the dog go in their yard? Very disrespectable. Can't understand it.

Why not ask them?

Barefoot 01-01-2010 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mo779 (Post 234021)
Seems like lots of folks up here don't know (or want to understand) that in most cases, a good part (an area bordering the street) of "their yard" is, in fact, a utility right-of-way easement, NOT owned by the home owner!

The Villages covenants allow two domestic pets per household. Yet they initially made no provisions for a place to walk the thousands of residents' dogs. Big mistake in my humble opinion! And destined to make for some bad neighbour situations.

Personally, I take my two dogs daily to a private dog park and never walk them on neighbours' properties. But not everyone is able to do this. And dogs do have to be walked.

The Villages is now slowly building dog parks, one in Historical and one by Mulberry. Hopefully they will be providing more. This should hopefully help improve the situation.

bluedog103 01-01-2010 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mo779 (Post 234021)
Seems like lots of folks up here don't know (or want to understand) that in most cases, a good part (an area bordering the street) of "their yard" is, in fact, a utility right-of-way easement, NOT owned by the home owner!

Actually the land is still owned by the homeowner. The easement gives someone the right to cross or use the property, in this case the utility company.

Pturner 01-01-2010 09:00 PM

I'm getting pooped out reading all this.

havinfun 01-01-2010 09:09 PM

Curb your Dog.....please
 
:bowdown:first let me say I was a pet owner most of my life......loss my wonderful dog just prior to moving to TV. However, I agree dogs should be curbed. Unfortunately, not ever one does the right thing..I know some do clean up after their dog but the majority do not. Live on a small street with and half my neighbors have dogs. Most go unleashed constantly and are doing whatever on their neighbor lawns. My ??? why do owners never take their dogs to do their business on THEIR lawns????? Wouldn't that seem reasonable?

TednRobin 01-01-2010 09:15 PM

I have a question, and excuse me if this has been asked before.(I've searched the forum but way to many to look thru.)We are interested in a fenced yard, CYV or ranch on Nash Loop w fence. We have a small dog, are these neighborhood overly noisy w barking dogs? Smelly due to owners not picking up timely after their dogs? etc. Thanks.

Barefoot 01-02-2010 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TednRobin (Post 240706)
I have a question, and excuse me if this has been asked before.(I've searched the forum but way to many to look thru.)We are interested in a fenced yard, CYV or ranch on Nash Loop w fence. We have a small dog, are these neighborhood overly noisy w barking dogs? Smelly due to owners not picking up timely after their dogs? etc. Thanks.

I currently live in a Courtyard Villa community. Great set up for dogs. The neighbourhood is lovely. No barking dogs. No smells. Everyone picks up after their dogs. In three years I've never, ever seen anyone that doesn't pick up after their dog. And most people in CYVs really like animals.

Plus the dogs can run free in the courtyards. I also take my dogs daily to the private dog park so they can get lots of exercise and play with other dogs.

Regor 01-02-2010 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Ooper (Post 196153)
Common areas are not owned by the individuals... they can include the areas around the postal stations, along the main roads, parks, etc.

Common areas are owned by all of us! I have owned dogs for 40 years. They poop and pee in MY yard. Not some "common" area. I suppose then you pick up the poop and put it into a common trash can next to the common mailboxes so that the common people coming there get to smell the common smell.
They have dog parks for dogs. Or let them mess up your own yard and flush the poop. Not My common area!
Please!

TednRobin 01-02-2010 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 240736)
I currently live in a Courtyard Villa community. Great set up for dogs. The neighbourhood is lovely. No barking dogs. No smells. Everyone picks up after their dogs. In three years I've never, ever seen anyone that doesn't pick up after their dog. And most people in CYVs really like animals.

Plus the dogs can run free in the courtyards. I also take my dogs daily to the private dog park so they can get lots of exercise and play with other dogs.

Thanks for the helpful info, Barefoot.

debzaranti 01-02-2010 09:59 AM

Saying you can't keep your dog from urinating on your neighbor's lawn is a cop out. Keep the leash SHORT and problem solved. My only complaint since I moved here is the number of my neighbors who think it's OK to let their dogs relieve themselves on my front lawn. I spend a lot of time and money to make our grass look nice and green and weed-free. Dog urine causes YELLOW BURN SPOTS on the lawn! I own a large dog and he only uses our BACK yard as his toilet...and the grass back there is mostly dead. I would not dream of allowing him to kill a neighbor's grass, so why do you less-responsible dog owners think it's OK for your dog to kill MY grass?? If you walk them because you don't want them killing the grass in YOUR lawn, why do you think it's OK for them to destroy mine?? Sorry for the rant, but this really, really bugs me. I find these less-thoughtful dog owners to be ignorant, arrogant and rude!

ajbrown 01-02-2010 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by TednRobin (Post 240706)
I have a question, and excuse me if this has been asked before.(I've searched the forum but way to many to look thru.)We are interested in a fenced yard, CYV or ranch on Nash Loop w fence. We have a small dog, are these neighborhood overly noisy w barking dogs? Smelly due to owners not picking up timely after their dogs? etc. Thanks.

I back up to Villas. The share a wall with a CYV. I have never had any issue with smell :), but there are dogs that bark. It simply makes sense that barking would be more prevalent in a CYV as dogs can be outside unattended.

As an example, there is a dog near us that possibly is trained (or spoiled ;)) to bark when it wants to come in. This can be an issue when it is 5:30 AM or when the owner cannot get to the door for 5 minutes as you sit on the lanai. For us it is not that big an deal and very infrequent, but could be if you happen to live near someone that does not view this an an issue for the neighbors.

I suppose this could also happen when dogs(s) are left on lanai like a certain green at Tierra Del Sol :)

It is like so many threads that occasionally come up here, loud music, lights that shine on neighbors home, etc. It does not happen often and if you are unlucky enough to move next to someone that may appear a bit inconsiderate, you hope it can be dealt with a civil and friendly manner.

BTW, we love the idea of a CYV for the dog and almost bought one, my post should in no way keep you from buying a CYV.

Talk Host 01-02-2010 10:40 AM

Last Saturday, I saw a guy on Legacy Lane with his dog. The dog leash was loooooooooong. The guy was standing on the street by the curb. The dog was squatting in the middle of sombody's front yard, 30 feet away from the owner.

When the dog was done, the guy just walked away.

I know the guy and the dog and the people whose lawn he was on. This dog snarls at me (and every other stranger) and stretches out the leash every time I walk close to him and the owner. The guy never, ever, ever tries to pull the dog back or stop the snarling.

I could just smack the owner.

paulandjean 01-02-2010 01:29 PM

dogs
 
I know the feeling, guy in amelia the same way.big boxer dog. one night he let it out on long leash,I was in the driveway and he did not see me, almost kicked the dog in the face. owner got real smart with me,but ended with him walking away. from that point on he always walked his dog away from me. real jerk.

iaudit 01-02-2010 05:56 PM

Dog and Owner
 
I live in Caroline and there are two dog owners that live in my neighborhood who not only let their dog relieve themselves on the lawns but the owners also smoke. They both just throw their finished cigarette butts (with filters) into the street or onto the nearest lawn. I intend to follow them to their house while collecting their butts and dumping them on their doorstep. Maybe they will get the hint.

graciegirl 01-02-2010 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by iaudit (Post 240828)
I live in Caroline and there are two dog owners that live in my neighborhood who not only let their dog relieve themselves on the lawns but the owners also smoke. They both just throw their finished cigarette butts (with filters) into the street or onto the nearest lawn. I intend to follow them to their house while collecting their butts and dumping them on their doorstep. Maybe they will get the hint.

That would frost me.

chuckster 01-02-2010 07:34 PM

My turn to vent.............There should be a special assessment for dog owners that congregate at mail facilities as if it is a doggy play area.:yuck: Lots of dead grass (recently replaced) and plants (also replaced). Unfortunately all of us cover the replacement of dead sod and plants through our ever rising fees. Have had kids, dogs and cats all of our lives and have treated public areas and private lawns with respect. Pets are like children, they know what they are taught and reflect the owners attitudes.

Just my opinion........

RichieLion 02-28-2010 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mo779 (Post 234021)
Seems like lots of folks up here don't know (or want to understand) that in most cases, a good part (an area bordering the street) of "their yard" is, in fact, a utility right-of-way easement, NOT owned by the home owner!

Where do you get this crazy idea? The property is in fact mine, it just has a restriction of usage. I'm assessed for the value of and pay the taxes on this property and I have to maintain this property; therefore it is my private property and I would appreciate it if you refrained from allowing your animal to use it as a latrine.

barb1191 02-28-2010 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mo779 (Post 234021)
Seems like lots of folks up here don't know (or want to understand) that in most cases, a good part (an area bordering the street) of "their yard" is, in fact, a utility right-of-way easement, NOT owned by the home owner!

If there IS "a utility right-of-way easement" this is an easement for 'UTILITY' people ONLY and NOT for dogs doing their business on anyone's lawn other than the dog-owner's property. Walk your dog on the street AFTER he/she has done their business ON YOUR PROPERTY!!! Walk around your property a few times if need be, to make sure the job is done on your turf!

I've heard that some dog owners dump their dog doo in the storm drains on the street!!!! DISGUSTING!!!

Be kind, please curb your dog.


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