Yes!

Good description of a human (baby, toddler, teen, or adult).

Thanks for clearing that up??

And you can drown in a teaspoon of water but I'm not likely to suggest a life jacket for everyone in my kitchen.

Life is dangerous, some things make life more dangerous, larger breeds of dogs with more strength are some of those things.

Yes. Yes. And, yes. Correct, imho. If it is a dog (breed makes no difference) it can bite. Be ware!

All criminals say they have done nothing wrong and feign innocence. But, they did, and they are not.

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I wear one in my kitchen. 😮😶😶

I recall a pooch at Doggie Doo Run Run. Its owners would keep it around them near a shelter in the big dog section . It was a golden lab or something like that. Gentle for the most part. That was until it was a kid, any kid, coming into the dog park. The owners position allowed them to see who was coming into the dog park with time to spare. They needed to do that as some previous neighborhood kid had shot the pooch with various BBs. Or, maybe, a bad parent with a kid with tendencies of animal abuse. The dog hated the sight of any kid. The owners also mentioned that the poor dog still had BBs in it.

If I was near a dog "having a bad day", I would prefer a Pug and not a Pit Bull.

Tried reply twice but something flashed up so fast couldn’t read it. Seldom reply on this but life and death of children at stake. Tried to stay common knowledge loving Pitt bulls kill unexpectantly. 7 year old killed in my home town by loving Pitt bulls as is case many times. Many are not badly trained as are the facts. Maybe supporters should consider the harm to these innocent children often babies and toddlers-death. If your children maybe think differently. Why hard to accept the clenching killer bites of Pitt bulls is not like other dogs. Can’t direct comments at commenters but can at owners.

Seems owners of innocent loving Pitt bulls get a lot of support and encouragement.
How much support for the victims?

St. Bernard, Great Dane, and others were bred to hunt wolves. They were NOT bred for dog FIGHTS.

They should be outlawed for BREEDING, and any pitbull puppies should be REQUIRED to be spayed or neutered before they're old enough to breed. It'd be great to see the breed die out, too many of them are treated badly, and too many of the well-trained ones are feared and hated by too many people who don't know any better.

Pit bulls are no more or less stupid than most other dogs. Chihuahuas have no use as a breed in the US. They were originally bred as a food source. And yet there are lots of those, and they're nasty, yippy, nippy little monsters.

Pit bulls are active dogs that require socialization, training, and human interaction from the time they're born. They require physical exercise. In addition, the term "pit bull" isn't even an exclusive thing. It refers to one of a few different breeds of terriers. Remember the old black and white show Our Gang? The dog Petey was a pit bull.

I still have a piece of a BB in my back from when a fellow high-schooler thought it'd be funny to shoot me in the parking lot of the strip mall next to the school on our lunch break. It's why I have a fear of people carrying firearms and won't allow one in my house, and when I see someone carrying near me, I quickly extract myself from the vicinity. I fear people with firearms MUCH more than I fear dogs. I have no fear of dogs at all really, though I still can't stand chihauhuas.

In the USA, about 1 person per week is killed by a dog.
About 35 children are killed weekly by parents in the US.
Maybe it's time to get rid of parents, and keep the dogs.

I really hope you’re joking about this. That was a horrific incident with that child and you’re talking about Harley’s, directional’s, squatters and letting Pit’s run wild? Do you realize the horror that that little child experienced? If you’re not joking about this - Karma; just see how you like being torn apart.

I shot and killed 2 pit bulls on a traffic stop in Arkansas when the owner intentionally let them out of his vehicle. I didn’t give them the chance to attempt that again.

Pit bulls killed a 7 year old boy in my home town. There have been numerous incidences of owners saying their pit bulls are sweet and never hurt anyone before killing or seriously injuring a person or another pet.

And I hope that owner is still behind bars (unless they are dead!)

The 7 year old killed in my community was sleeping and left alone with the mother pit bull and 2 or 3 offspring. The 18 year old sister left for a couple hours to deliver papers. Look up incident in Olivehurst, California online.

100% support for innocent victims of dog attacks. 0% for victims of justified attacks (protecting children or adults from attack/abuse, criminals bitten by K-9 officers, etc).

Just my silly distaste for "dog pimps" (breeders who do it for profit) makes my breeding "pets for profit" should be outlawed as long as there is one adoptable pet in a shelter. Like breeding captive men and women and selling the babies to folks who want a "skin baby" to lord over like a pet. That's how disgusting it is to me.
As for Petey, I loved laughing at him as he bit the truant officer on the butt and tore his pants. Peter was also often the hero as he would protect young and old from dastardly villians. Peter was a good dog (every incarnation of him).

Pitbulls are terriers.

I loved Pete. The Little Rascals and Our Gang were "must-watch" shows when I was a little girl. Even though they were reruns by the time I got to see them, my parents and sister and I loved to watch them together.

Pete was the inspiration for my love of "big" dogs. The bigger the better, except for Great Danes. I just find them unattractive for some reason. Pitbulls aren't even large dogs. They just have large bites and their jaws are set in a way that makes them able to simply not let go once they've latched onto their target. That makes them dangerous, if not trained and controlled by a TRAINED owner. If the owner isn't also trained, then the dog needs to be placed with an owner who is.

My dream dog is the Great Pyrenees. But I also love Long-haired German Shepherds, Rottweilers, Cane Corsos, and this guy here:

Newfoundland dog - Wikipedia - if you've ever had the privilege of the company of a Newfie up close and personal, you can't help but want to just wrestle with him. 150 pounds of slobbering drooling muscle and fur. How can anyone resist!

I still have an old BB pistol. I've never shot anyone or any living thing with it, no matter how much I may have wanted to. I don’t carry it, so if I ever show up at your place, I'll be the bewildered stranger with no weapons. Just tell me to go home and I will. I'm very well trained.

St Bernard's were bred as rescue dogs. Not wolf hunters.

Sheriff Press Conference
 

I don't think this has been posted yet but it provides all the details including about the irresponsible owner who will face charges.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoGxPzzxxpc

The mother saw the attack through a window and ran over to protect her son. It was the most heart wrenching part of the press conference.

https://youtu.be/WoGxPzzxxpc?t=1890

Edit: The mother ran out and laid on top of her son while the dogs were right next to them. She was yelling for everyone to stay away because the dogs were dangerous.

Heroic doesn't even begin to describe her actions.

In my opinion, there is a lot to be said about how nature (genes) and nurture (upbringing) interact to shape canine behavior. My experiences have taught me to understand and respect every dog’s breed (nature). If I buy/adopt a border collie, just like its ancestors, it will be genetically programmed to herd. It’s very unlikely that I will ever be able to completely train that dog NOT to display herding tendencies. If I don’t live on a farm, and I am very kind and loving to the dog, and I never teach it or expose it to herding (nurture), under certain circumstances, herding tendencies will still surface and the dog will naturally chase, circle, and nip at a moving object (nature). It’s not that the dog “snapped.” It’s just doing what it was bred for. Everyone seems to accept herding behavior from the entire category of breeds called ”collies.” Yet many people deny that the category of breeds called pit bulls, who were bred to fight but raised in a loving home, have the propensity to attack, regardless of how friendly they appear. Just as I will never drink and drive because I won’t jeopardize the safety of myself and others, I will never own a pit bull. If I were ever at fault in an accident that injured or killed another human being (child or adult) after consuming alcohol, I would not be able to live with myself. If I owned one of those sweet pit bulls who “out of nowhere” injured or killed a human or someone’s pet , I would have the same feelings. I cannot fathom any parent taking a pit bull into their home and then allowing their children to climb all over the dog, even into their bed (as described in an earlier post). Why would anyone take a chance of potentially putting their child in harm’s way? Is it me, or are they being totally irresponsible?

Wrong .

Excellent response!

The herding dog will NOT try and herd, which is their nature to do, if they are trained to NOT do that, and they are "on duty." If their current "job" is to stay home and hang out, and stay on their leash, and obey their owner who says "NO" when a group of people scatter in the park, then that is their job, and that is what they're trained to do, and that is what they will obey.

A herding dog WILL herd, if they are "off duty" or if they are not trained to not herd. My shepherd was a perfect example of that. She was an off-leash dog. She had the run of the neighborhood. And she loved herding joggers on the street. They all knew her and they'd let her run with them once they realized she had zero intention of biting anyone, she just enjoyed the chase because that's what herders DO.

But when she was on my lawn, hanging out with me, she was "on duty" and wouldn't take off chasing after joggers if I told her to stay. That's because that was how I trained her.

A fighting dog is bred AND TRAINED to fight. They can be trained to NOT fight instead. It takes more work to train them against their nature, but basically all dogs need a job. If the job is to sit there and NOT attack, then that is their job, and they'll do it if properly trained AND if their owner is properly trained in mastering their dog's behavior.

A properly trained pitbull will not suddenly attack for no reason. It just flat out won't happen. If it's attacking, then somewhere there's a failure. Either there WAS a good reason for the attack, OR the person training the dog failed in their own training by not properly training and commanding their dog.

This guy trains dogs off-leash, here he is with his cane corso in a shopping mall picking up a gift for his wife at Nordstrom's:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-KB4Be3M48

Cane corso are primarily guard dogs. They're considered "giant" dogs (bigger than "large" dogs), have massive heads and jaws, can EASILY protect a henhouse from coyotes (ask me how I know), and fiercely guard their families. If not trained, socialized, and exercised properly, they can become terrifying aggressors. But a well-trained, socialized, and exercised cane corso is very likely to be just a really comfy, warm footrest when you're watching TV at night, or pillow if you've given him access to one end of the couch.

Bit bulls are terriers? Yes and no?

Bottom line Pit bulls were crossed breaded for fighting dogs from the Staffordshire Bull Terrier. Which was cross bread form Staffordshire terrier and bulldogs. Which IMO created vise like jaws with crushing teeth with grip of Chinese finger trap. When person take ownership of pit bull hybrid you taken on great responsibility and liability.

Now shall we talk about Bullmastiffs, Rottweilers, Tosa, and Neapolitan Mastiffs and dozen more breads bread for specific purposes. But IMO only the pit bull was bread to be killer. Even though some or more don’t display there specific purpose it’s lurks in there genes. Few dogs have the crushing jaw muscles and clamping strength of pit bulls. I see some pits that look like their ears was chewed off and some may have been? but probably was docked for purpose.

So, if you knew ****ed off MMA fighter lived next door you be aware what the person could do if provoked. You would either be their best buddy or avoid any confrontation know you could be bet within second of your life. IMO same goes with pit bulls, best to avoid them and give the WIDE safety area and carry 454 Casull which makes any threat equal.

Video of Sheriff and Animal Control Investigation of the incident. Note background info regarding owner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tu4OJW3Zuyg

I love how you handled this!!

You are so right dog owners, regardless of their dogs breed or size need to be vigilant at ALL times. Those who own large breeds (or mixes) such as German Shepherds, Dobermans, Rotties, etc. need to be especially vigilant and teach their dogs well. There is no room for error with these breeds. I've had German Shepherds, one Dobie, a German Shepherd mix and more large breed dogs. Our dogs had to learn early good behavior.

I love this!! It's such a common sense way to help a lot of dogs who end up abandoned and neglected.

Very well said and well thought. I love both cats and dogs but I realize that some things are more concerning with different breeds. I think that thought is very frightening but very realistic. I don't know who you are, but I so like how you think.

I agree. I love these dogs. Unfortunately some owners of these dogs (and other large breed dogs) seem to enjoy the "status" of having a dog that can be intimidating to others. If you haven't already read "The Lost Dogs Michael Vick's Dogs and their Tale of Redemption" it is worth the read.

Years ago, I was helping my wife set up her kindergarten classroom when a pit bull appeared at the doorway to the classroom. I started to panic until I heard someone call Duncan, Duncan. The dog stopped immediately and the owner, another teacher appeared. She told us about Duncan. She found him as a puppy in a box at a post office and took him home. She told us he is the sweetest dog and very friendly. She has a fenced in property and the dog would jump a 5' fence if kids came alone just so he could play with them. A lot had to do with how a dog is raised. I interacted with Duncan many times after that incident, and never found him to be aggressive. He was given a love of love by his owner, unlike many others who are chained up outside or kept in cages for most of their lives.

No such thing as bad dogs. Only bad owners

That is absolute bull****! They are no different than any other dog other than their strength and power of their bite. It all depends on how they were raised. I know plenty of friends with pits and they are friendly as hell.
Some of the little yap dogs here are more vicious

I have met some very sweet pit bulls at Doggie Doo Run Run. Jade, for instance, who was quite gentle until she started playing hard with a boxer about her size. We then had to keep our distance.

The higher the population of pit bulls, the greater the risk of unprovoked dog attacks. To say that all dog breeds pose the same risk is patently false. Proper care and training will make a big difference but it can not completely eliminate genetic instincts.

https://www.dogsbite.org/pdf/one-citys-experience.pdf
2019 U.S. Dog Bite Fatalities - Dog Bite Statistics - DogsBite.org


And hundreds of cities and towns ban or restrict pitbulls.
https://blog.dogsbite.org/wp-content...-laws-2021.pdf

2019 dog bite fatality statistics