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BUC 04-27-2010 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuckw (Post 261596)
Most of the restrictive covenants say that hedges (defined as plantings less than three feet apart which you cannot walk through) are limited in height to 4'.... A four foot high fence does not do much.

Chuck

So it's O.K. to have a 4' hedge installed but not a fence? Solves my fence problem!

senior citizen 04-27-2010 09:57 AM

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Vinny 04-27-2010 10:13 AM

Yep!
 
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Originally Posted by K9-Lovers (Post 261592)
I'll bet Mrs. Vinny said: "Where do our dogs sit????" :confused:

Yep. She is the leader of the pack.

Vinny 04-27-2010 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by senior citizen (Post 261597)
Trulia is the website, so type in as follows (into the google search engine)

trulia the villages florida nash loop resales

I printed it out with the photo to show my husband.

Another person on the forum awhile back, I believe a policeman , also directed people to the Florida Sex Offenders Registry. I just printed that out as well.

It's a small percentage compared to the large population in TV, however, I was simply looking for the ranch homes' photos, with the picket fences and what a surprise.

I would think from the offender's point of view that they want to live in a community with as few children as possible to avoid temptation but that probably makes it worse for those with grand children that visit in the Villages. Unfortunately, as I have learned in my 13 moves, you cannot escape the evil element out there. I am every vigilant but that goes hand in hand with being raised in NYC.

downeaster 04-27-2010 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 261464)
Thank heavens. Those restrictions. I like 'em.

I like them too, GG. Wouldn't have bought here without them. Better yet, they are enforced.

senior citizen 04-27-2010 10:46 AM

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villages07 04-27-2010 10:53 AM

sr....the 30 and 40 yr olds are most likely adult children living with their parents or grandparents and not property owners.

senior citizen 04-27-2010 11:04 AM

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Vinny 04-27-2010 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by senior citizen (Post 261610)
You are correct, however it is interesting what one can find out there.
The good news is that the ratio of residents in The Villages to the number of sex offenders in the registry is 833 to 1.

What surprised me, considering it is a 55+ community, of which 80% (?) should be at least 55 years old.........of the ten listed as living in The Villages, one guy was born in 1969 which would make him 41 years old; another was born in 1960; another in 1974; another in 1972, 1978, 1970 with the remainder being true senior citizens. What goes in TV? Thirty something year old sex offenders are allowed to buy in TV? If one reads the news, many times age is no barrier. It's not always children they go after.

However, it is a small percentage and if one follows the tv news, "kids" today get put on the list simply for texting or sending photos.

The Villages, like all 55+ developments I have looked at, is allowed by law to sell a certain percentage of homes to people less than 55 years of age. It is stated so in my contract. The Villages say it will do it in cases of Hardship as determined by the developer. I imagine if a husband dies and his trophy wife is under 30, she would be allowed to stay. :D

eweissenbach 04-27-2010 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinny (Post 261618)
The Villages, like all 55+ developments I have looked at, is allowed by law to sell a certain percentage of homes to people less than 55 years of age. It is stated so in my contract. The Villages say it will do it in cases of Hardship as determined by the developer. I imagine if a husband dies and his trophy wife is under 30, she would be allowed to stay. :D

How about if my wife dies? - I am her trophy husband!

graciegirl 04-27-2010 12:58 PM

Ten out of 80,000 is still too many.
 
Here is a link. I don't know how current it is but there are ten listed in The Villages.

http://www.homefacts.com/offenders/F...-Villages.html

senior citizen 04-27-2010 03:50 PM

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Russ_Boston 04-28-2010 08:58 PM

I found it. I'd have to have a conversation with that guy before I bought next to him.

Chi-Town 04-28-2010 09:23 PM

Beware of Laurel Bay Ln. (Lynnhaven?) Neighboring sex offenders. How cozy.

duffysmom 04-29-2010 02:44 PM

Chi town, you are so right. There are two sex offenders in their 30's living side by side in two separate residences on Laurel Bay Lane. One was convicted of having sex with a child under 12.:boxing2: When you think about it, TV is a good place to hide. My question is how close to a school can these vermin live?

MelZ 04-29-2010 03:13 PM

How come none of the offenders are female, looks like discrimination to me?
:a040::a040:

Before you Flame me

That was a joke..

army one 04-29-2010 03:44 PM

How
 
How did this get so far off the original topic?

l2ridehd 04-29-2010 04:05 PM

Beacuse all the female sex offenders are in high demand by all the old geezer perverts. :a040:

Pturner 04-29-2010 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by army one (Post 261999)
How did this get so far off the original topic?

What were we were talking about before?

GMONEY 04-30-2010 04:47 AM

would take to long to go back and look,,,, Delete the whole thread and start over might be the easiest thing.... from fences to sex offenders, what a deal

florlrl 05-03-2010 01:43 PM

I'm all for fencing and anything we as owners can do to change the dumb restrictions would be great. I appreciate the privacy and, in fact, it would save a lot of complaints about dog walkers in the neighborhood if home OWNERS not the developer decided what they wanted on their property.

l2ridehd 05-03-2010 01:53 PM

If you really feel that way, why did you buy here? The rules were set long before you arrived and you knew what they were. That just makes no sense to me. There are thousands of other places where you can put a fence around your property. Go there. When you look for a place to buy, look at the rules, the restrictions, the way it is set up. If you like what they offer, great. But if you don't, go someplace else. Don't buy and then try to change it, or complain about what they are. I just do not understand when someone thinks that way.

Fourpar 05-03-2010 02:12 PM

...what 12rdhrd said!:agree:

Pturner 05-03-2010 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by florlrl (Post 262620)
I'm all for fencing and anything we as owners can do to change the dumb restrictions would be great. I appreciate the privacy and, in fact, it would save a lot of complaints about dog walkers in the neighborhood if home OWNERS not the developer decided what they wanted on their property.

Hi Florlrl,
For the most part, I think home OWNERS did decide when we chose to live in a community with strict deed restrictions. They help preserve the gorgeous panaroma that is TV.

Deed restrictions are such big factor (most of us think benefit) of TV, that it is hard to understand why anyone opposed to them would choose to live here. Not only did we agreed to the deed restrictions when we purchased, the developer and CDD's agreed to enforce them.

Many people do think deed restrictions are dumb, so they live in communities that don't have them. Is it right to move to a community where they are promised to everyone for the beauty of the total community, and then seek to have them overturned?

mulligan 05-03-2010 02:56 PM

changes
 
Back in the day, all horses were supposed to look the same. Along came someone who wanted to change the design, a committee was formed, and the result was a camel. You want to talk about ugly??

KayakerNC 05-03-2010 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by l2ridehd (Post 262621)
If you really feel that way, why did you buy here? The rules were set long before you arrived and you knew what they were. That just makes no sense to me. There are thousands of other places where you can put a fence around your property. Go there. When you look for a place to buy, look at the rules, the restrictions, the way it is set up. If you like what they offer, great. But if you don't, go someplace else. Don't buy and then try to change it, or complain about what they are. I just do not understand when someone thinks that way.

:agree:

GMONEY 05-04-2010 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by l2ridehd (Post 262621)
If you really feel that way, why did you buy here? The rules were set long before you arrived and you knew what they were. That just makes no sense to me. There are thousands of other places where you can put a fence around your property. Go there. When you look for a place to buy, look at the rules, the restrictions, the way it is set up. If you like what they offer, great. But if you don't, go someplace else. Don't buy and then try to change it, or complain about what they are. I just do not understand when someone thinks that way.

:agree: :agree: :bowdown:

BUC 05-04-2010 06:23 AM

Change is part of life, a person has a right to try to change rules that they disagree with, But elling someone to live someplace else is rude.

graciegirl 05-04-2010 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BUC (Post 262732)
Change is part of life, a person has a right to try to change rules that they disagree with, But elling someone to live someplace else is rude.

The posts explaining that the restrictions are in place here when you consider choosing a retirement home were stated clearly and strongly worded but I don't think that they were meant to be rude.

We have lived in areas with a lot of restrictions for many years and find that it works for us and we are used to it. I think that the people who most want fences are the dog owners but I see that many, many people successfully and happily own dogs here. So just as in any other decision, it is wise to gather as much information as possible first.

Or.............as the old saying goes. "Marry in haste. Repent at leisure".

And Buc...I agree that we live in a free country, where we can try to effect change if we want, but this little bit of it is a benign dictatorship.

Long live the Morses!

Army Guy 05-04-2010 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by l2ridehd (Post 262621)
If you really feel that way, why did you buy here? The rules were set long before you arrived and you knew what they were. That just makes no sense to me. There are thousands of other places where you can put a fence around your property. Go there. When you look for a place to buy, look at the rules, the restrictions, the way it is set up. If you like what they offer, great. But if you don't, go someplace else. Don't buy and then try to change it, or complain about what they are. I just do not understand when someone thinks that way.

Totally Agree! If you want fences buy a CYV like we did for our dog. But otherwise NO FENCES in TV!!

Army Guy

zcaveman 05-04-2010 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Army Guy (Post 262741)
Totally Agree! If you want fences buy a CYV like we did for our dog. But otherwise NO FENCES in TV!!

Army Guy


Well said Army Guy!!! :agree:

I don't understand people buying into a community that has rules and restrictions and wanting to change them for their own good. We moved here knowing these rules and restrictions existed and we were happy with them - at least most of them. But we can live with all of them.

BUC 05-05-2010 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Army Guy (Post 262741)
Totally Agree! If you want fences buy a CYV like we did for our dog. But otherwise NO FENCES in TV!!

Army Guy

Not everyone can buy a CYV.

Army Guy 05-05-2010 06:52 AM

ok, BUC, you peeked my interest, why can't everyone who wants one, buy a CYV?

Army Guy

Barefoot 05-05-2010 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BUC (Post 262919)
Not everyone can buy a CYV.

I just edited out a stupid comment I made.

BobKat1 05-05-2010 11:12 AM

For a variety of reasons, it could be a budget issue for some.

Army Guy 05-05-2010 11:26 AM

Besides Patio/Cottage homes, CYVs are the most affordable homes TV sells. If you get a Keys Style CYV, the price pretty much equals a Patio/Cottage.

Army Guy

TrudyM 05-05-2010 02:31 PM

A number crunchers view
 
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Originally Posted by zcaveman (Post 262782)
Well said Army Guy!!! :agree:

I don't understand people buying into a community that has rules and restrictions and wanting to change them for their own good. We moved here knowing these rules and restrictions existed and we were happy with them - at least most of them. But we can live with all of them.

Just because someone wonders why something is a certain way it doesn’t mean they are attacking your decision or any ones for that matter. :undecided:

QUOTE: Army Guy;262927 ok, BUC, you peeked my interest, why can't everyone who wants one, buy a CYV?

If you look at re-sales sold and compare days on the market of, Colony Patio homes and Keys Marathon homes in the same village the Marathon with the walls sold in much less time. I assume this means that on the average at least with those looking at more compact units people like walls.

If you compare a new Colony Patio and a Keys Marathon in Pennecamp with similar size lots the Marathon is $20,300 more. That is a lot of money for fencing. The assumption is that the market will bear the increase ie people will pay more for a fenced lot:cool:


On an aside I personally don’t get the white picket fences in front of the Colony Patio homes they are just across the front and don’t enclose anything. I guess they look cute but seem a little strange to me. ( I am not criticizing don’t jump down my throat ):duck:

BUC 05-05-2010 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Army Guy (Post 262927)
ok, BUC, you peeked my interest, why can't everyone who wants one, buy a CYV?

Army Guy

I can buy a house on the Historical side for $100,000 or less, a CYV cost several 1000s more, or does that make me an undesireable. I really hope not because I really want to live in the T.V.

Bogie Shooter 05-05-2010 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BUC (Post 263013)
I can buy a house on the Historical side for $100,000 or less, a CYV cost several 1000s more, or does that make me an undesireable. I really hope not because I really want to live in the T.V.

A villager is a villager is a villager!

Indy-Guy 05-05-2010 03:52 PM

There are around 40,000 homes in The Villages lets say around 10,000 are Villas so lets say around 30,000 homes that were purchased by people who decided at the time of purchase that they didn't need to have a fence. So for them lack of a fence was not a deal breaker. It looks to me like 99% of those roughly 30,000 homes don't feel they need fences and are very happy with what they have.

For me this place looks great without fences and I feel comfortable knowing that that will not change.


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