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golfnut 05-05-2010 03:53 PM

army guy, not sure we'll be able to explain this one, I would like to buy a motorhome and can afford a Winnebago, but can someone explain to me why I can't buy a Prevost....gn

Pturner 05-05-2010 04:46 PM

Ok, it's time to mend fences.

golfnut 05-05-2010 05:00 PM

no fences (except in CYV's and on Nash Loop).....gn

zcaveman 05-05-2010 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrudyM (Post 263010)
Just because someone wonders why something is a certain way it doesn’t mean they are attacking your decision or any ones for that matter. :undecided:

They are not wondering. They want the restriction changed.

They should buy a CYV if they want a fence.

It is that simple.

Army Guy 05-06-2010 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BUC (Post 263013)
I can buy a house on the Historical side for $100,000 or less, a CYV cost several 1000s more, or does that make me an undesireable. I really hope not because I really want to live in the T.V.

Buc, no you are not undesireable! As Bogie said, a villager is a villager! I understand about affordability and what each can and can't do. I just didn't understand why you said why some couldn't buy a CYV at first, I was not thinking along cost lines. Just thinking availability. We are going through that now with looking for a place at TV for my folks. Weighing cost vs desires and also their needs.

Army Guy

Rag Bagger 05-06-2010 02:08 PM

It seems to me that the people that don't want a villa with a fenced/walled area don't like them because they look like a confined area complete with walls/fences. But yet they want us all to have our yards fenced or at least be able to fence off their little piece of the earth. No thanks. No fences untill I die. What a mess it would be if we all had fenced off lots.
If you have a pet you should be in the yard with it anyhow and not abandon the poor babe in the FENCED yard.

cats12470 05-06-2010 03:50 PM

No fences
 
We agree... we would not buy if they allowed fences... and yes, everyone knows ahead of signing.... what they are signing....
Enjoy the beauty of the Villages....

graciegirl 05-06-2010 04:09 PM

Are the walled in areas in the villas hot?
 
With the summer heat beating down, and the walls kind of capturing it, I would think that the yards that are enclosed with a wall would be hot without a breeze blowing through them.

BUC 05-06-2010 04:09 PM

It's O.K. but please don't get mad and yell at me when I'm walking my dog, if he pees on the county Right of way in front of someones yard (not on private property) and if someone yells at my wife, then that will lead to a totally different discussion, from me!

BarbaraT 05-06-2010 04:14 PM

:pepper2:
I am new here to this board. I can't get my picture up, but anyway
I have been breeding toy poodles for 35 years and always had fences!
I am moving down to the historic area (Lady Lake-Villages) soon with two toy poodles. Is there a rule against putting out a portable pen just long enough for them to go, clean up and take it back in again?

:shrug: Does someone have a link to all the rules? I would like to look at them, PLEASE!:bowdown:

Thanks in advance.
In South Ocala,
BarbaraT

Russ_Boston 05-06-2010 06:43 PM

I believe this is the deed restriction for the 'historic' district:
http://www.districtgov.org/images/De...ke/L-1-2-3.pdf

If not then other Lake County deeds docs are here:
http://www.districtgov.org/departmen...akeCounty.aspx

ptownrob 05-06-2010 07:14 PM

No Fences Make Better Neighbors!
 
I'm glad we don't have fences- it also makes our small lots look more spacious. I look at CYV's and think of exercise pens inside of max. security prisons. Huge walls for a little piece of "MY" land? No Thanks.

There are plenty of places in Florida where you can have a fence- but don't expect it to be as open or friendly as your neighborhood in the Villages.

BUC 05-07-2010 06:26 AM

I guess it's O.K to have a hedge up to 4'that works just as good as a fence. Sorry about my comment yesterday (just fustrated)

Army Guy 05-07-2010 06:54 AM

BUC, you are ok, we still love ya! We all get emotional about things now and then, God knows I have!
This fence thing all boils down to one fact.....Before you buy, you are given the rules. If you don't like them, don't buy, don't buy with the intent you cange them changed. Remember, TV is bascially a "private, owner controlled stand alone city" it is not like the town/city you moved from. That is why you are given the "rules" before you sign! A little Stepfordish? Yes kinda, but it is what we who own there want and like!

Army Guy

mulligan 05-07-2010 06:54 AM

rules
 
Your real estate agent should supply complete deed restrictions prior to closing, Part of his(her) job IMHO. Also, I believe this a legal requirement.

graciegirl 05-07-2010 08:04 AM

I guess if you read the deed...........
 
I don't think I remember our Villages agent telling us about the restrictions. He answered when we asked a specific question about anything. We did know about them because on our "drink the Koolaid" visit with friends, when they took us to Orange Blossom Hills restaurant for dinner, we noted that there were a lot of lawn ornaments on the older side and we discussed it then with our hosts and about the difference and tightening of restrictions as the area grew and moved south.

You may be right and it may be required by Florida disclosure laws, or they may be different from Ohio and I just don't remember hearing it, or Sweetie may have been told not in my hearing or I may have signed a paper with all of the details at closing...but I don't recall doing so.

Are disclosure laws consistent across the United States?

Because we have deed restrictions in our development in Cincinnati that are very similar to those in The Villages, I really didn't give it much thought.

I know I like those restrictions very much.

How did those folks get by the restrictions painting that house such a BRIGHT BLUE up near Glenview Country Club??????

mulligan 05-07-2010 08:36 AM

blue house
 
Probably with a roller

Army Guy 05-07-2010 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mulligan (Post 263306)
Probably with a roller

If stucco, I hope they used a roller with the thick nap.


Army Guy

zcaveman 05-07-2010 10:17 AM

Actually the blue house is not that bad. I think it was a case of the colors in the brochure looked okay but what ended up on the house was a little brighter when spread over that big of an area.

graciegirl 05-07-2010 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zcaveman (Post 263334)
Actually the blue house is not that bad. I think it was a case of the colors in the brochure looked okay but what ended up on the house was a little brighter when spread over that big of an area.

Oh Z. I have to disagree with you for the very first time.:p:wave:

jblum8156 05-07-2010 12:30 PM

I'll be so glad when this silly thread is done. The only sensible answer is if you don't want to live with restrictions, choose someplace else to live.

Barefoot 05-07-2010 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jblum8156 (Post 263361)
I'll be so glad when this silly thread is done. The only sensible answer is if you don't want to live with restrictions, choose someplace else to live.

Jblum, if you find this thread silly, perhaps you should pass it up and head over to Political. They're not silly over there, but they may use you for a dart board. :laugh:

graciegirl 05-07-2010 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 263366)
Jblum, if you find this thread silly, perhaps you should pass it up and head over to Political. They're not silly over there, but they may use you for a dart board. :laugh:

Bare, you are so right as usual. I have foolishly ventured over there twice in the past week. I must be losing my mind. Tony? The next time you see me post in political, just remove the post.

tony 05-07-2010 01:38 PM

If we did that, Gracie, there would be people whistling and prancing about censorship. Right?:icon_wink:

Pturner 05-07-2010 04:28 PM

Speaking of the "political" dart board...
 
I thought that in addition to no fences, TV had no school-yard bullies, given that it's an age-restricted community. Imagine my surprise when I've peeked into Political. OMG

Russ_Boston 05-07-2010 05:29 PM

Yep. Haven't and won't be joining the political forum. The best thing the admins did was require separate admission to that jungle!

GMONEY 05-08-2010 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ_Boston (Post 263402)
Yep. Haven't and won't be joining the political forum. The best thing the admins did was require separate admission to that jungle!

:agree: :agree:

memason 05-08-2010 05:15 AM

Where is the political forum? I'd like to take a look, just so I know what everyone is talking about.

Thanks....

ajbrown 05-08-2010 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by memason (Post 263462)
Where is the political forum? I'd like to take a look, just so I know what everyone is talking about.

Thanks....

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...editusergroups

I have been lurking there and it can be quite "entertaining":)

Army Guy 05-08-2010 06:58 AM

memason, before you go into the political board you may want to borrow my body armor and Kevlar Helmet!

Army Guy

nniles 06-17-2010 10:18 PM

Last year, when I was looking at model homes in the south, they were experimenting with having fences with new houses. Don't know what happened to that idea. It still may exist.

Russ_Boston 06-18-2010 05:41 AM

They did an experiment on/around Nash Loop regarding ranch style homes with vinyl fences.

My agent told me that it wasn't a rousing success. She doesn't think the idea will return anytime soon.

macro 06-18-2010 03:38 PM

Historical side
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BUC (Post 263013)
I can buy a house on the Historical side for $100,000 or less, a CYV cost several 1000s more, or does that make me an undesireable. I really hope not because I really want to live in the T.V.

When I was looking at TV, I looked at the options of new and pre-owned and different locations in the villages. Granted, maybe the newest manufactured home is over 20 years old but then, I don't buy a lot of really green bananas anymore either. (Not enough time left to wait for them to ripen.) Price was also a consideration. As far as restrictions are concerned, I've been in places they were worse. (without the cameraderie and ambience of TV) My lot size is just about right for me to 'putter around' in and enhance (or not) without consuming all my spare time and cash. If there is something didn't like that the previous owner did, I can change it, at my leisure. Personally, I think the few retrictions are reasonable and appropriate (disappointed I won't be able to put out those 200 pink flamingos I thought were standard in FL) . The only people that might be considered 'undesireable' are like those who buy property cheap at the end of the runway and then complain about the low-flying planes and want them to fly somewhere else. BUC I think you will be welcome anywhere in TV. Exceptional group of people. Another plus to pre-owned, close on the property and move in. No waiting for contractors to finish up. Also on Historical side, a lot of turn-key properties.

cloglova 07-26-2010 07:20 AM

Hi
I have purchased a home in The Villages, and will be closing on it in August. I have a beautiful, wonderful Bichon who is used to my backyard at my current house. He must go in and out of my home at least a dozen times a day, and loves the freedom of the yard with a fence enclosure. He is not a walker, and I don't really know how to handle his exercise outdoors, if a fence is not allowed. I would appreciate any suggestion you could offer. Are "bird cages" the answer. Where can I go to have one constructed as an extension to my lanai? Thanks for your help.
Clotilde and Roy

mulligan 07-26-2010 07:55 AM

It would probably work out best if you stayed at the house and had the work done there.

Barefoot 07-26-2010 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cloglova (Post 278765)
Hi
I have purchased a home in The Villages, and will be closing on it in August. I have a beautiful, wonderful Bichon who is used to my backyard at my current house. He must go in and out of my home at least a dozen times a day, and loves the freedom of the yard with a fence enclosure. He is not a walker, and I don't really know how to handle his exercise outdoors, if a fence is not allowed. I would appreciate any suggestion you could offer. Are "bird cages" the answer. Where can I go to have one constructed as an extension to my lanai? Thanks for your help.
Clotilde and Roy

A courtyard villa would have provided a fenced backyard for your Bichon. So I assume you've purchased a house and not a villa.

If you want your dog to have access to your back yard in order to go to the bathroom, then the solution is invisible fencing. We used Dog Watch for our invisible fencing and are extremely pleased. (I always hated the idea of invisible fencing but it has worked extremely well and our dogs react to the warning beep, they don't get corrections.) There are other threads on TOTV discussing Invisible Fencing (see the search button above).

If you want your dog to have more room to roam, then a birdcage would do the trick. We had our large birdcage built by Whites Aluminum and we recommend them highly. However a birdcage must have a concrete floor so you can't use one as a dog bathroom.

Congratulations on your home purchase, you'll love living in The Bubble!

English Ivy 07-26-2010 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cloglova (Post 278765)
Hi
I have purchased a home in The Villages, and will be closing on it in August. I have a beautiful, wonderful Bichon who is used to my backyard at my current house. He must go in and out of my home at least a dozen times a day, and loves the freedom of the yard with a fence enclosure. He is not a walker, and I don't really know how to handle his exercise outdoors, if a fence is not allowed. I would appreciate any suggestion you could offer. Are "bird cages" the answer. Where can I go to have one constructed as an extension to my lanai? Thanks for your help.
Clotilde and Roy

Welcome to The Villages! We have a westie and have solved the issue of going outside by placing a stake in the ground right outside the lanai door. To that we attached one of those outdoor dog leads which my husband cut to length to keep her only on our lawn (our backyard is narrow). When she wants to go out we just hook her up and let her go. She's got enough room to sniff around and find the "perfect" place to use. She also enjoys laying and rolling in the grass or sunning on the warm concrete. And this is a dog who up north had the run of a 1/2 acre yard which was protected with invisible fence. She got used to a new routine with no problem.

Although you said your dog is not a walker be careful if you do take him for any walks. The pavement here is extremely hot in the summer.

zcaveman 07-26-2010 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 278845)
A However a birdcage must have a concrete floor so you can't use one as a dog bathroom.

I have seen bird cages with a grass floor and a doggie door to let the dog outside when ever he wants to go out. There is one on Churchill Greens. I have also seen a birdcage with a special room with a grass floor for the pets. It had its own door so they could put their two dogs out and leave them out there.

Bogie Shooter 07-26-2010 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zcaveman (Post 278914)
I have seen bird cages with a grass floor and a doggie door to let the dog outside when ever he wants to go out. There is one on Churchill Greens. I have also seen a birdcage with a special room with a grass floor for the pets. It had its own door so they could put their two dogs out and leave them out there.

Artificial grass would be a good idea.

Vinny 07-26-2010 08:43 PM

Update from otiginsl post
 
We have since moved into a corner lot CYV since I first wrote the original post. The backyard is bigger than the one in my old home and my two children, I mean doggies, love it. Funny thing is that we spent more than planned to get a lot with alot of grass for them only to find that they do not like walking on the type of rough grass here. They are doing their thing on the rocks I put down where the straw used to be. So now I have all this grass that nobody uses and that I have to pay someone to mow. I could have saved myself dome money had I known. :shrug:


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