so true
 

Well said. We live in a known pet friendly town. This is a very simple concept.

I agree to disagree. My views are not your views. I finally get this.
duh,
Kitty

I meant that I think that most people, the majority, are responsible. The ones that are not....nothing will change them on this issue or anything else that requires them to think of others.

And that is what is wrong with the world, with any community, with government and with social interactions of any kind.

We do not live on this planet alone. We need to take care of ourselves, our own family and belongings and watch out for others. We do not have a right to take what isn't ours, infringe on others rights and act like we have no responsibility.

A pet is a member of our family, if we wouldn't let our child poop in someone's elses area, well you can put the rest together. I am blessed that I have only run into one neighbor who set out with a pup and no bag.
He didn't seem to care about anyone else on other matters either.

Blessedly he doesn't read this forum.

I hope.

Well said. it's about respect of one's neighbors

Finally, the voice of reason.

I must clarify one thing, then I'm (hopefully..heheh) going to bow out of this thread...

I am NOT one of those who will let my dog pee on your property. I DO respect your property rights. I don't foresee a confrontation in our future. :^) I was only stating my opinion regarding what is reasonable, not what I (and my dog) would do.

I would not appreciate dog owners taking advantage of my property either, like leaving #2 in my yard. I just don't have a problem with an occasional pee in my yard. IMHO, it's harmless.

I don't mind if someone's dog is walking by and happens to poo in my yard, as long as the owner cleans it up. The pee doesn't seem to do any harm. The dog may have gone in its own yard before the walk. You never know when nature is going to call again. What irks me is that we had a neighbor who would let her dog do its business in my yard every single day. Never her yard. We didn't want to cause a war so we never said anything. That is what gripes me. A passing dog fine, but not those neighbors who think your yard is their dogs bathroom area. I also had a neighbor across the street that did the same thing with the neighbor beside him. And what about the people who take their dogs to places where the leash law is in effect and think they are abiding by the law just because they have the leash in their hand.....not attached to the dog....and the dog gets out of site. If they can't see the dog, how do they know if their dog needs to be cleaned up after?

Okay, silver lining time!

At least most of the dogs here are tiny. :smiley:

and mine isn't, but she teaches ME better manners, the regal Emma...
Kitty

I'm tired of this thread too, PB, and glad we see pretty much eye to eye...
be well and enjoy paradise!

yes it does
 

yes it does

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I watched a gaggle of geese 'doing it' on private property this morning. they leave deposits much like a dog. their leavings do the same damage as a dog, which is not much!

I think some are missing the point in much of the discussions. It is not the act of wild animals or birds that is the issue. No one can control their actions unless perhaps a fence is put up as a barrier. We used to live on a lake and the only way to stop geese, or ducks from pooping on the lawn was to put up a string along the edge and constant vigilance. Another reason here why directly living on a pond or prairie has a disadvantage. Lol
The point here is people control their dogs by the leash and their actions, whether they claim it being an accident or purposely that the dog/ owner is on the property. Who controls who than? That is why many say it is rude, and self-centered, let alone ill-mannered and the owners feel entitled to use what they want, where and when they want. Whether it be a golf ball, dog, walking for short cuts, looking in private homes, stickers on mailboxes, and so on...

Kittty, I don't think anyone here is advocating that dog owners think it is OK to go on private property! Even though we don't personally take our dogs to the mail station area, I do understand (with the lack of dog parks), that people want to sometimes take their dogs for walks off their property.

Of course, it goes wiithout saying, that all responsible pet owners in The Villages pick up after their dogs. Except for a few creeps. Probably the same yahoos that leave cigarette butts everywhere they go. Probably the same yahoos that throw coffee cups out the windows of their cars.

Hmm. I read a lot of posts from people who seem to think their neighbors' yards are ok to pee and ok to poop if you pick it up...

Today I walked my dog past other dog-walking neighbors. They walked on the edge of the street with a 8 foot lead and let the dog walk in every single yard. They even walked their dog through yards located right across the street from an unbuilt lot where the dog could have gone...and where mine did go. It looked to me like they were walking carefully along the edge to allow the dog every possible yard to choose wherever it wanted to go. I'm gonna get a couple of "please keep off grass" signs.

I'm not trying to start a riot, but after researching laws, it looks like it is a first degree misdemeanor with a penalty of $1000 for trespass that leaves waste on homeowner yards. Please, no attacks. It's information, or how I read the statute anyway...

You are 100% right It is considered a trespass the owner of the dog recives the citation.I Spoke with the sheriff take a picture and they will issue a summons even if the dog does not relieve itself .and yes it's a misdemeanor

Were they on a leash or were they range free geese?

Yes Kitty, I have seen owners who do, in fact, ENCOURAGE their dogs to sniff and go on lawns they are passing. An accidental emergency poop I can understand. They are animals after all. But please have the curtesy to be the tiniest bit embarrassed, and pick it up if you have supplies with you, which you should. All will be happily forgiven under such circumstances. I love dogs too.

As I went north on Canal St. this morning, just before the gate at Bonita Blvd, a guy was walking his dog on the golf course on the right side. He himself was walking on the golf-course cart path there.......but the dog was out on an extended lead on the grass, sniffing all around on the golf course turf!

I stared and couldn't believe it, but the guy looked at me like "what's your problem??"

My answer verbally would have been "my problem is your attitude".

Great idea. Time to have a camera available each time they use the lawn(s). Do you have to have a sign posted saying no trespassing for it to be valid? Perhaps some fines might help deter some of the ill-mannered ones. Let them explain their reasons they say here to the police and see if they buy it! :a20:

Is this still America's friendliest home town??????? Are we all going to reduce ourselves to cameras and threats??????? Instead of communicating with the person and pet involved. If a person walks across my lawn should I have my camera ready because he crushed my grass???.
Allowing our community to reduce itself to cameras and reporting people to the police seems totally contradictive to the life style.
I just don't get it,,,,,Life is way to short. No one was injured and no one died, sooooooooooooooo be grateful for all that has been given to you to enjoy the time you have left in this world. If all the energy invested in this post were used for charitable cause. A small fortune could have been raise.
MHO.
My last and only thought as this thread has deteriorated well below what I believe most of the people in tv are really like.:pray::pray:

I will be so glad when this thread title is gone

me too. that happens when we all quit posting.
:024: :oops:

Oh Please.. Lol. This is a friendly and nice place with multiple cultures and one's norms prior to here. The majority of which are caring, fun, nice people. However, as mentioned numerous times here, (neighbors using others lawns but theirs, entitlements by those saying it is actually not ones property but ROW, i will do what i want since i did it where i was before, and today I also saw a woman climbing through a golf course property's shrubs looking for her ball against the birdcage, shortcuts through yards, etc). It is the same ones that have been asked, or signs explain it, that feel they can do what they want. We can talk here or with others until we are exhausted, and they still won't get it. It's an option if all else fails in efforts. Let's keep it friendly and respect others private properties and all will be good.

you don't need such a sign, but why not just put out a keep off grass sign. I think that will do it for those of us who prefer not to have walkers there. I expect people would respect that without my having to worry, stress or feel creepy and on guard like I'm trying to catch somebody. And everybody lived happily ever after....

Have you all lost your minds? You want to bring CRIMINAL charges against your neighbors because their 12 lb dogs stepped in your yard? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? I say "Go for it." I don't know where you all got your law degrees, maybe the colleges in Grenada were full so you were forced to Google.

Here's how it will play out, LE will think your crazy but will take the complaint, they will arrest your neighbor who will more than likely be bonded out with $100 station house bail. Assuming your neighbor hasn't had any prior convictions the case will be adjourned in contemplation of dismissal.

The real fun comes into play if your friendly neighbor insists on going to trial. Do you really think your average Sumter County jury will convict? One of the beautiful things about our justice system is a little thing called malicious prosectution, a civil charge that can (and IMO should)be brought against you.

Think long and hard before heading down this road. It likely could cost you thousands in legal fees, thousands more in damages and you will be spending the rest of your natural life tied up in litigation.

I say GO FOR IT, LET THE GAMES BEGIN.

I think the issue with your post is this is just Florida's Friendliest home town. In America's friendliest hometown I have read you can actually bring your pets into someone's home to beg at the table during dinner and relieve themselves if that is what they need to do. It is understood when you buy there, you should put newspaper down or gates up when folks come over.

I forget where this is and do not have the link, sorry....

Malicious prosecution? Jury trials? Hahahahaha You cant win that case. 1 paw in someone's yard is trespassing. It doesn't matter how much you love your dog, it's still trespassing.

Several weeks ago my Caly laid down a 3 b_a_gger in our yard. I cannot imagine this happening in someone else's yard. Three bags, a hose and I needed a shower after.....

I could see doing community service for that :jester:

ONCE AGAIN, go for it.

I wonder how many people have decided not to move to The Villages because of this thread...hundreds, thousands????????????

Poop Wars has become a pee for all. oh dear, at least we all know how other people might feel and how passionately we hold our views.

The posts on this thread have helped me immensely to understand how people think about property and their animals. I have a simple plan for protecting my property with keep off the grass signs (rear for golfers, front for walkers) and a gentle correction if needed.

thanks to all who posted. you saved me a million mistakes here at TV because I realize that all of us think that all of us should think like we do.
sincere thanks to the OP as well, :highfive:
Kitty

I don't believe we're allowed yard signs in the southern section of The Villages. We just have to train the owners. It takes time but eventually they will get it. Criminally, verbally or physically, they're all trainable...

My head just exploded.. i lost it around page 4.. now i am just ashamed of the entire bunch of you ..

Sometimes the best thing to say is nothing....

Its disappointing to read this "garbage" on here. I know some of you just do it to get attention for whatever reason you need to get attention...but it's really too bad and very immature. Grow up!!!

Every time I think this thread is finally getting POOPED out, some one fires it up again!
Oh well!

At the very least, the title of the thread should be changed to "DOG" Pee and Poop Survey if it's going to live on in perpetuity.

People who are newcomers to this blog wouldn't know by looking at the list of threads that it's about "dog" waste and the humans who love them..

Stop posting if you want the thread to die. It was only a few hours from oblivion...

This thread has degraded into attacking each others motives rather than talking about dog poop. It's all been said, many times over.

Thread is now closed.

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