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rayschic
01-11-2014, 10:29 AM
There is an article in the Villages News com. The AAC has agreed to pay for painting of center stripes on the multi-modal paths. The AAC has agreed to pay for the future maintainence of these painted stripes. There wil be NO cost to the individual CDD's.

CDD's 1, 2, 3 and 4 had meetings to discuss. Only CDD 4 accepted the AAC's offer.

I understand that it will not solve all the problems, but I feel it's a step in the right direction. Why not accept the offer ?

Sorry, I can't post a link to the article. Just add a dash between Villages and News and you should be able to get to the article.

ureout
01-11-2014, 11:05 AM
i think it's a waste of money.....there is no reason why drivers can't keep to the right on a cart path....what's next center guard rails.

cquick
01-11-2014, 11:33 AM
There is an article in the Villages News com. The AAC has agreed to pay for painting of center stripes on the multi-modal paths. The AAC has agreed to pay for the future maintainence of these painted stripes. There wil be NO cost to the individual CDD's..

AAC? who is the AAC? Also when I read the article, I got the impression that the cost of painting and maintenance would come out of amenity fees. Wouldn't that eventually cause them to go up?

graciegirl
01-11-2014, 11:39 AM
I don't know if it would help or not. I see cart drivers on Morse often with their left wheels outside the line....a very unsafe way to drive.

ijusluvit
01-11-2014, 11:44 AM
i think it's a waste of money.....there is no reason why drivers can't keep to the right on a cart path....what's next center guard rails.

I disagree. Not only is painting a center stripe a very inexpensive safety improvement, but I've seen many cart drivers misjudge the paths on curves and then swerve to miss carts in their proper lanes going in the opposite direction. Where center lines are missing or worn off the chances increase for these misjudgements leading to collisions.

TheVillageChicken
01-11-2014, 11:48 AM
If there is a centerline, and my tire nudges it on a tight corner...and a deputy hiding in the bushes sees my infraction, what will my fine likely be?

Duckfinger2
01-11-2014, 12:00 PM
If they don't want to spend the money on paint, how about the little L shaped plastic road markers. If you get the right one they also will glow at night when lights hit them. They very cheap and you place them very 20 feet or so.

Just saying maybe they need to think outside the box for solutions.

karostay
01-11-2014, 12:30 PM
:icon_bored: Big Yawn :icon_bored:

Cantwaittoarrive
01-11-2014, 12:43 PM
I think either a stripe down the middle or some reflectors on the edges would help at night. These old eyes have a hard time telling where the edge of the path is sometimes when there is a on-coming cart with their lights on and either a stripe down the center or reflectors on the edge would help me

batman911
01-11-2014, 01:00 PM
I believe painting a stripe will enforce the idea that the paths are primarily for carts instead of what they are intended for which is walkers, bikers, skaters and everyone's use. Maybe be everyone should just slow down and then it makes little difference what side of the road you are on.

Serenoa
01-11-2014, 01:52 PM
i think it's a waste of money.....there is no reason why drivers can't keep to the right on a cart path....what's next center guard rails.

Then why have center stripes on two lane highways??? There's no reason why drivers can't keep to the right on a two lane road, is there? Just think of all the money FL Dept of Transportation would save.:smiley:

billethkid
01-11-2014, 02:19 PM
Then why have center stripes on two lane highways??? There's no reason why drivers can't keep to the right on a two lane road, is there? Just think of all the money FL Dept of Transportation would save.:smiley:

I just love a good solid return shot!!
It is no secret that soem residents have no idea of the size of what ever vehicle they happen to be driving.
Painting a center line will add a factor of safety day and especially at night.
Maybe if TV were cited in a court action involving an accident they would change their minds.

There really is no justifiable reason to not do it.....NONE! In my humble opinion.

janmcn
01-11-2014, 02:25 PM
Then why have center stripes on two lane highways??? There's no reason why drivers can't keep to the right on a two lane road, is there? Just think of all the money FL Dept of Transportation would save.:smiley:


The center stripes on two lane highways tell drivers when it is safe to pass another vehicle.

red tail
01-11-2014, 02:36 PM
I just love a good solid return shot!!
It is no secret that soem residents have no idea of the size of what ever vehicle they happen to be driving.
Painting a center line will add a factor of safety day and especially at night.
Maybe if TV were cited in a court action involving an accident they would change their minds.

There really is no justifiable reason to not do it.....NONE! In my humble opinion.

no villa streets have a stripe. many many streets too numerous to mention throughout the villages have no stripes. so why all of a sudden all this rhetoric about the lack of safety.

downeaster
01-11-2014, 04:24 PM
AAC? who is the AAC? Also when I read the article, I got the impression that the cost of painting and maintenance would come out of amenity fees. Wouldn't that eventually cause them to go up?

AAC is the Amenity Authority Committee. A simplified explanation of their function is, they decide where our amenity fees are to be spent. Spending on a particular project will not cause the fees to increase. Increases are contractual.

I recommend attending one of the classes offered by the CCD for a fuller and correct explanation of their duties.

An article in today's Sun on page C3 explains the action talen in reference to painting multimodal path center strips.

Bogie Shooter
01-11-2014, 05:14 PM
AAC is the Amenity Authority Committee. A simplified explanation of their function is, they decide where our amenity fees are to be spent. Spending on a particular project will not cause the fees to increase. Increases are contractual.

I recommend attending one of the classes offered by the CCD for a fuller and correct explanation of their duties.

An article in today's Sun on page C3 explains the action talen in reference to painting multimodal path center strips.

I would add the ACC only has authority North of CR466.

I think the reasons cited in the article made sense.

clekr
01-11-2014, 05:20 PM
If you need a line on the multi modal paths you should not be driving.

123Cookie
01-11-2014, 05:22 PM
not trying to steal the thread here but I feel the money would be more strategically spent on a few street lights in certain designated areas - my pet peeve is the golf cart rotary near Brownwood -- a couple of street lights there would prevent an accident waiting to happen - I am sure there are other places that may be also as dark as a pocket.

123Cookie
01-11-2014, 05:24 PM
If you need a line on the multi modal paths you should not be driving.

that I agree with or TOO YOUNG to be driving - have seen sevral of late that no way in blue blazes are they 14 yrs of age!!!!

aln
01-11-2014, 05:39 PM
I just love a good solid return shot!!
It is no secret that soem residents have no idea of the size of what ever vehicle they happen to be driving.
Painting a center line will add a factor of safety day and especially at night.
Maybe if TV were cited in a court action involving an accident they would change their minds.

There really is no justifiable reason to not do it.....NONE! In my humble opinion.

Is a stripe going to stop a cart from crossing over - No.
Does a strip help you see the road if you're driving too fast for the distance your headlights project - No.

Just like the Morse bridge over Lake Sumter the best solution is slow down !
(no cost)

MikeV
01-11-2014, 08:22 PM
I like the reflector idea.

bluedog103
01-11-2014, 09:54 PM
There is an article in the Villages News com. The AAC has agreed to pay for painting of center stripes on the multi-modal paths. The AAC has agreed to pay for the future maintainence of these painted stripes. There wil be NO cost to the individual CDD's.

CDD's 1, 2, 3 and 4 had meetings to discuss. Only CDD 4 accepted the AAC's offer.

I understand that it will not solve all the problems, but I feel it's a step in the right direction. Why not accept the offer ?

Sorry, I can't post a link to the article. Just add a dash between Villages and News and you should be able to get to the article.
A center line and/or side reflectors is a great idea. With the poor headlights on the golf carts some sections of the multi-modals can be very difficult to see. Add to that a rainy, hazy night and no windshield wipers and it's even more difficult. I don't take my cart out on a rainy night but sometimes you get caught by surprise. It makes for an interesting ride home.

sailor47
01-12-2014, 03:22 AM
It would be a very good idea to add center lines. I hate to say for safeties sake, makes me sound like some old guy, but in this case it is true. Carts have their head lights aimed high in many cases and really blind oncoming traffic. I have found myself looking for the edge of the blacktop to make sure to stay in my lane. Rain and other conditions make it even harder. It's not needed in daylight but at night it makes all kinds of sense.

Slowing down doesn't really help. You could slow down right in front of an oncoming cart.

It's not really going to help the dingbats that cut corners but it could remind them they are over the line.

It's a no-brainier, should be done. It's true there are some country roads that do not have enter lines. At night, they are by far the most dangerous to travel. Fortunately traffic is lite so accidents are few but when they happen they are deadly. The neighborhood streets without lines are not that difficult because cars have their head lights aimed. Try driving around town with bright lights on that is more what it's like on the car path.

mickey100
01-12-2014, 06:50 AM
The striping would be primarily helpful to night drivers. The question is, how many drive their carts at night? How many accidents have there been at night due to head on collisions that the center striping would have prevented? It will be very costly to install and maintain the striping.

Golfingnut
01-12-2014, 07:42 AM
Painting a line would look like deification. I also don't like reflectors but that would look a sight bit better than a painted line.

ROCKETMAN
01-12-2014, 08:46 AM
I think those who posted no need for anything have never driven to brownwood at and had a cart coming at them and one behind them plus being close to the road the headlights from vehicles come into play. I drive 15mph at most and still have a tough time seeing the edge of the path. Also as previoiusly mentioined, something at the round a bout in brownwood would be nice, very dark. Relectors or striping, either one a good idea.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
01-12-2014, 08:53 AM
AAC is the Amenity Authority Committee. A simplified explanation of their function is, they decide where our amenity fees are to be spent. Spending on a particular project will not cause the fees to increase. Increases are contractual.

I recommend attending one of the classes offered by the CCD for a fuller and correct explanation of their duties.

An article in today's Sun on page C3 explains the action talen in reference to painting multimodal path center strips.

So the CDDs would not be paying for this, basically, the home owners would be paying for it.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
01-12-2014, 08:54 AM
It would be a very good idea to add center lines. I hate to say for safeties sake, makes me sound like some old guy,

Get off my lawn!!

downeaster
01-12-2014, 11:27 AM
So the CDDs would not be paying for this, basically, the home owners would be paying for it.

In as much as the homeowners pay amenity fees and the cost would be paid from those fees, yes, the homeowners north of CR466 would pay for it.

cquick
01-12-2014, 11:31 AM
AAC is the Amenity Authority Committee. A simplified explanation of their function is, they decide where our amenity fees are to be spent. Spending on a particular project will not cause the fees to increase. Increases are contractual.

I recommend attending one of the classes offered by the CCD for a fuller and correct explanation of their duties.

An article in today's Sun on page C3 explains the action talen in reference to painting multimodal path center strips.

Thank you.

BobnBev
01-12-2014, 12:39 PM
If there is a centerline, and my tire nudges it on a tight corner...and a deputy hiding in the bushes sees my infraction, what will my fine likely be?

:cus:10 days without beer.:police::cryin2::eek:

eweissenbach
01-12-2014, 12:40 PM
If there is a centerline, and my tire nudges it on a tight corner...and a deputy hiding in the bushes sees my infraction, what will my fine likely be?

Why did you cross the road?

ureout
01-12-2014, 01:03 PM
i wish lines would help....apparently no one on TV drives their car down Morse Blvd. or Buena Vista these roads are lined and i see cars drifting over them allllllll time....

skyguy79
01-12-2014, 01:14 PM
Why did you cross the road?Probably to get away from the hungry smiley!

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zcaveman
01-12-2014, 02:22 PM
In as much as the homeowners pay amenity fees and the cost would be paid from those fees, yes, the homeowners north of CR466 would pay for it.

But this is only for the area north of 446. For you that live south of 446 this is not a concern or problem with you. So no need to worry.

Just a little background - when we had the 12 foot (?) cart paths north of 466, it was decided to put the yellow line down the cart paths. It was really a safety move. And it worked. Most people started to keep their carts to the right of the ***ted line. When they widened the cart parts north of 466 to 16 foot (?), they got rid of the ***ted line. When the drivers of the carts go around the blind corners they veer to the left of the center of the 16 foot of the cart path. Many of us feel that the ***ted line will make the drivers stay on the right side of the cart path. When I drive the cart path from Marion county to Sumter county I see the ***ted line on a few of the curves. Most seem to obey it. For the ones without the ***ted line, it is not so defined.

So as far as I am concerned we should at least have the ***ted line on the blind curves. For the straightaways, I could care less either way. I can see you coming and will hug the right side of the cart path.

Z