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Taltarzac725
05-08-2014, 03:27 PM
I went to the 1:10 P.M. showing of The Amazing Spider-Man II yesterday at the Old Mill Playhouse. I got there just before the movie started about 1:00 and sat at the very top. I have kind of an old gunfighter thing about wanted my back at the wall. Anyway, as the movie progressed, I thought it was very weird that this-or-that scene had smoke in it. The movie, after all was in 3-D. But, then I figured that it must be that man scooting down a few seats just ahead of me and smoking. I took a big wiff to see if this person was also smoking Mary Jane. After all, this was Spider-Man, but with no Mary Jane in scent or sight. That was the old Spider-Man and Mary Jane Watson.

Anyway, throughout the movie, I would see the smoke rising every 20 minutes or so and this was about a 2.5 hour movie.

I thought about going to the manager with a complaint about someone smoking. There were maybe 10 people in total at this showing of Spider-Man and all of these but me were in front of the smoker and quite a distance way.

The man smoking was Oriental in appearance with a large purse as well. I was not sure it even was a man until I saw him waiting in the men's room as I went out of the Old Mill Playhouse. The very large purse kind of gave me pause about determining this person's gender. His appearance was also quite well kept and a bit effeminate. Short hair but some women have haircuts like this person had.

I am not very confrontational most of the time and thought again maybe I should have complained. What happens with these kinds of things here in the Villages? Would the cops come and take statements because someone was violating the laws against smoking in movie theaters?

The movie was OK. If you do see it, there is an ad for an X-Men movie just a little bit in the Credits.

No extra scene after the Credits however which was a bit of a let down.

Bogie Shooter
05-08-2014, 03:30 PM
I went to the 1:10 P.M. showing of The Amazing Spider-Man II yesterday at the Old Mill Playhouse. I got there just before the movie started about 1:00 and sat at the very top. I have kind of an old gunfighter thing about wanted my back at the wall. Anyway, as the movie progressed, I thought it was very weird that this-or-that scene had smoke in it. The movie, after all was in 3-D. But, then I figured that it must be that man scooting down a few seats just ahead of me and smoking. I took a big wiff to see if this were also smoking Mary Jane. After all, this was Spider-Man, but with no Mary Jane in scent or sight. That was the old Spider-Man.

Anyway, throughout the movie, I would see the smoke rising every 20 minutes or so and this was about a 2.5 hour movie.

I thought about going to the manager with a complaint about smoking. There were maybe 10 people in total at this showing of Spider-Man and all of these but me were in front of the smoker and quite a distance way.

The man smoking was Oriental in appearance with a large purse as well. I was not sure it even was a man until I saw him waiting in the men's room as I went out of the Old Mill Playhouse. The very large purse kind of gave me pause about determining this person's gender. His appearance was also quite well kept and a bit effeminate.

I am not very confrontational most of the time and thought again maybe I should have complained. What happens with these kinds of things here in the Villages? Would the cops come and take statements because someone was violating the laws against smoking in movie theaters?

The movie was OK. If you do see it, there is an ad for an X-Men movie just a little bit in the Credits.

No extra scene after the Credits however which was a bit of a let down.

The manager could have answered your question or are you just looking for opinions?

Taltarzac725
05-08-2014, 03:44 PM
The manager could have answered your question or are you just looking for opinions?

I did not think this person's smoking was that bothersome at that time so I did not complain. I would like to get an idea of what would happen if I had taken this to the manager? I cannot remember any time in my movie going experiences that I have ever seen someone smoking. It happened a lot at concerts and this was usually smoking Mary Jane. I got a little high for instance from second hand smoke at the Red Rocks Bette Midler concert. Complaining to the manager at Red Rocks though would have been quite foolish as half the spectators seemed to be smoking something.

My reason for posting this was that it might help someone who finds themselve with this person smoking in a Villages' movie theater who reads TOTV and would like to do something about this smoker.

I like to pick my battles and this did not seem one worth starting with the smoker. And the Old Mill Playhouse staff who clean up the theaters after the people have left MAY or MAY NOT have found evidence of someone smoking like cigarette butts.

If the Villages' movie theater staff read TOTV maybe they can look out for this Oriental man carrying a large purse if he does smoke at Villages' movie theaters.

Bogie Shooter
05-08-2014, 03:51 PM
I did not think this person's smoking was that bothersome at that time so I did not complain. I would like to get an idea of what would happen if I had taken this to the manager? I cannot remember any time in my movie going experiences that I have ever seen someone smoking. It happened a lot at concerts and this was usually smoking Mary Jane. I got a little high for instance from second hand smoke at the Red Rocks Bette Midler concert. Complaining to the manager at Red Rocks though would have been quite foolish as half the spectators seemed to be smoking something.

My reason for posting this was that it might help someone who finds themselves with this person smoking in a Villages' movie theater who reads TOTV and would like to do something about a smoker.

I like to pick my battles and this did not seem one worth starting with the smoker.

Not saying you should have "reported" the smoker, just ask management the policy. I am sure some of the "19th hole" lawyers will give you and opinion...........allthough it may be the wrong one.

Vernster
05-08-2014, 04:00 PM
I would have approached the smoker and reminded him/her of the rules. If the smoking continued, I would have reported it to the manager.

Taltarzac725
05-08-2014, 04:04 PM
Not saying you should have "reported" the smoker, just ask management the policy. I am sure some of the "19th hole" lawyers will give you and opinion...........allthough it may be the wrong one.

If you ask the management what is your policy on smoking you are kind of opening them up to asking "Why are you asking us that question"? Then I would have had to look around and see if I saw the person who had been smoking. As I was leaving the Old Mill Playhouse, I had seen the man waiting to get into the toilet stalls in the men's room near the concession stand and Auditorium I which was playing The Other Woman yesterday.

Gat0r
05-08-2014, 04:04 PM
Could have been a E-cigarette he was using (vapor)

pooh
05-08-2014, 04:11 PM
Smoking in public buildings is prohibited in Florida. Are there no smoking signs around? Honestly, I never looked to see if any are around. One can say the movie theater is a privately owned building so the law may not apply but not sure that excuse would work.

Taltarzac725
05-08-2014, 04:13 PM
Could have been a E-cigarette he was using (vapor)

Maybe. From the people I see smoking at Doggie Doo Run Run, on occasion, the smoke has an appearance which is distinctive to regular cigarettes. From the E-cigarettes on YouTube I have seen smoked, there is quite a larger amount of smoke (vapor) created.

The man seated in front of me also seemed to be quite concerned about who was around him. He took a risk lighting up in other words.

Smoking in public buildings is prohibited in Florida. Are there no smoking signs around? Honestly, I never looked to see if any are around. One can say the movie theater is a privately owned building so the law may not apply but not sure that excuse would work.



I do not believe a movie theater would be considered a private venue not protected by the FL Health and Safety Laws. I have never see anyone smoking in any other theater while I lived in Florida. That's since 1996 or so. I rarely go to movies other than in the afternoon so I am not aware of what audiences in the evening and midnight showings would be like. I do not remember any no smoking signs at the Villages' movie theaters but cannot say I ever really searched for them.

Bogie Shooter
05-08-2014, 04:18 PM
Smoking in public buildings is prohibited in Florida. Are there no smoking signs around? Honestly, I never looked to see if any are around. One can say the movie theater is a privately owned building so the law may not apply but not sure that excuse would work.

But you could carry in there right?

OBXNana
05-08-2014, 04:24 PM
I would have gone to the manager immediately. Smoking in the building is not permitted. It would have been a nuisance to the other patrons. It's a fire hazard.

It isn't always easy doing what you feel is right and you don't want to be a bother. I truly understand your feelings. I'm not one to complain, unless there's a rule or law being broken. If something is different than my opinion, it's that persons right to have that opinion. It's simply an opinion. Smoking is a public building is more than a persons right to express themselves.

I've read your posting more than once. You're obviously a good person thinking about the feelings of others. You allowed this person to interfere with the enjoyment of a movie. That isn't fair to you.

buggyone
05-08-2014, 05:01 PM
Are e-cigs allowed in a theater? I would doubt it but do not know for certain.

Is the term " Oriental" correct to use in 2014?

justjim
05-08-2014, 05:08 PM
Are laws regarding smoking include e-cigarettes? Common sense seems that they do include e-cigarettes.

OP, regarding the incident you reported, The prudent response would be to report it to the management of Old Mill Playhouse.

tippyclubb
05-08-2014, 05:11 PM
Are e-cigs allowed in a theater? I would doubt it but do not know for certain.

Is the term " Oriental" correct to use in 2014?

For now e-cigs are pretty much allowed everywhere. Its up to the establishment to determine if they are not allowed by posting a no e-cig sign. They use to be allowed at airports but last time I was there they had up signs no vapor. Its just a matter of time and they will have the same fate as smoking, banned everywhere. Regulation have already begun in a few states.

Taltarzac725
05-08-2014, 05:11 PM
Are e-cigs allowed in a theater? I would doubt it but do not know for certain.

Is the term " Oriental" correct to use in 2014?

I should have said Asian, I guess. I used this term mainly because I never got a very good look at the man. He left when the theater was still dark and I only had a fleeting look at him from a distance as I passed the men's room where he was waiting to go to a toilet stall. I had not seen him while I was climbing the stairs and only noticed him after the movie started when he looked back at me. Probably just before lighting up.

gerryann
05-08-2014, 05:12 PM
Are e-cigs allowed in a theater? I would doubt it but do not know for certain.

Is the term " Oriental" correct to use in 2014?

My son called me on that. I guess Asian is PC.

Taltarzac725
05-08-2014, 05:18 PM
I would have gone to the manager immediately. Smoking in the building is not permitted. It would have been a nuisance to the other patrons. It's a fire hazard.

It isn't always easy doing what you feel is right and you don't want to be a bother. I truly understand your feelings. I'm not one to complain, unless there's a rule or law being broken. If something is different than my opinion, it's that persons right to have that opinion. It's simply an opinion. Smoking is a public building is more than a persons right to express themselves.

I've read your posting more than once. You're obviously a good person thinking about the feelings of others. You allowed this person to interfere with the enjoyment of a movie. That isn't fair to you.

You are right but I have never been a confrontational person. And it would have ruined the movie for probably everyone in that theater if there had been any kind of ruckus.

TheVillageChicken
05-08-2014, 05:19 PM
After ascertaining that the smoker was not a retired police captain, I would have confronted him.

bluedog103
05-08-2014, 05:27 PM
My son called me on that. I guess Asian is PC.
How can you tell by appearance that the person was Asian?

billethkid
05-08-2014, 05:50 PM
I am a firm believer of the statement....see something, say something.

I would not recommend any individual confronting another....that is the manager's job.

People who frequently violate the rules anticipate the fear of involvement in this country and get away with way too much.

See something say something has proven to save lives.

Taltarzac725
05-08-2014, 06:19 PM
How can you tell by appearance that the person was Asian?

Actually I thought she was an African-American woman when I first noticed the person sitting in front of me. It was not until he got up that he looked Asian. Much of the time I saw this person was in the dark of a movie theater. I only ascertained that he was Asian-American or Asian after I saw him waiting for the men's toilet stall.

I cannot really say what makes a person appear Asian or Asian-American. Does this woman appear Asian-American? http://verilymag.com/cosmetic-surgery-an-asian-american-perspective/

I do hope that the Old Mill Playhouse management has seen this thread. The ticket takers probably would remember the very few people who went to the 1:10 P.M. showing of "The Amazing Spider-Man II" in 3-D on May 7, 2014 as this was an Asian-American or Asian man carrying a large bag or purse of some kind. That's kind of memorable in the carrying of a large bag like that by a man.

Bogie Shooter
05-08-2014, 06:40 PM
Actually I thought she was an African-American woman when I first noticed the person sitting in front of me. I was not until he got up that he looked Asian. This was not until in the dark of a movie theater. I only ascertained that he was Asian-American or Asian after I saw him waiting for the men's toilet stall.

I cannot really say what makes a person appear Asian or Asian-American. Does this woman appear Asian-American? Cosmetic Surgery: An Asian American Perspective (http://verilymag.com/cosmetic-surgery-an-asian-american-perspective/)

I do hope that the Old Mill Playhouse management has seen this thread. The ticket takers probably would remember the very few people who went to the 1:10 P.M. showing of "The Amazing Spider-Man II" in 3-D on May 7, 2014 as this was an Asian-American or Asian man carrying a large bag or purse of some kind. That's kind of memorable in the carrying of a large bag like that by a man.

Too late to hope sombody else takes care of it.
What do they then do, put out an APB?

Taltarzac725
05-08-2014, 06:54 PM
Too late to hope sombody else takes care of it.
What do they then do, put out an APB?

I do not think this is THAT important a matter. If it is a habit of this person to hide his addiction to smoking by finding a dark Villages' theater, then he probably would cause a problem as he was as far as I know lighting up cigarettes in a dark movie theater. He had picked a seat very far away from anyone else. I had been rather late to the movie theater and had not even noticed the person two seats down from me until he sat up when the previews started. I had thought again that this was an African American woman with a very short hair cut. There is a slight fire danger from this habit, especially since movie theaters do not have ash trays or something else like this which provide a safe place to deposit ashes and the like.

My reason for posting this thread was mainly to make people aware that there is, at least, one person who smokes cigarettes in Villages' theaters. I am hoping that the Old Mill Playhouse people see this thread.

zcaveman
05-08-2014, 07:23 PM
If it was bothering you, you should have reported it to the manager and let him investigate it.

Z

Buffalo Jim
05-08-2014, 07:44 PM
Could someone from the PC Police please share what the appropriate penance is for using the term " Oriental " instead of Asian ?

Also what is the penalty for NOT correcting some innocent soul who happens to use a term [ Oriental ] which has long been accepted ? And my long time Asian friends have shared with me is not objectionable to them ?

Also how does one determine that someone is " African American " ? We have many citizens of Canada living here in the Villages . How do you know that a person isn`t " African Canadian " ?

Except the people I know from Canada who we would call " African American " have told me that they find " African-Canadian " to be objectionable . This past winter when I asked a good friend from Montreal what the PC term would be for someone such as himself who was a person of color , he told me real quick " my family considers us to be " French-Canadian ". We don`t care for the African label ".

So ............ I guess what is PC depends on where on the globe one might be located . Or who is wearing the PC hat today .
PC Police p-lease chime in !!

ilovetv
05-08-2014, 08:14 PM
Unbelievable. Somebody is presenting a fire hazard in a movie theater, and is breaking state no-smoking laws, and is acting weird in the bathroom with his big purse...... and people here are worried about political correctness of saying "oriental" or "Asian"??????

How about "lawbreaker"?

Taltarzac725
05-08-2014, 08:36 PM
If it was bothering you, you should have reported it to the manager and let him investigate it.

Z

It was not bothering me that much at that time. There were about ten people in the theater with only myself and the smoker sitting in the back. Of course, this smoker would be able to tell who brought the authorities-- so to speak--down on him.

I do not have that much of a problem with smokers unless they start a fire. There is also the concern of second hand smoke but this person was far enough away that I could not smell anything.

There is a concern though if this is this person's habitual routine when he goes to a movie at the Old Mill Playhouse. I am hoping again that someone will alert the Old Mill Playhouse management to this thread. They would probably also have to catch him in the act of smoking as I doubt if they could search his belongings on the word of some other theater goer. I suppose I could have taken a picture of the smoke coming out of his area with my cell phone but I am quite new to cell phone use.

It could have been an e-cigarette too as I am not familiar with anyone who smokes these things. I am familiar with people who smoke or have smoked over the years regular cigarettes and cigars. I did not actually smell any tobacco nor any marijuana.

The next person who reads TOTV and sees this behavior and knows how to use a cell phone I hope will take a picture of this man's smoking and contact the management of whatever Villages' theater he is in.

Buffalo Jim
05-08-2014, 08:37 PM
Unbelievable. Somebody is presenting a fire hazard in a movie theater, and is breaking state no-smoking laws, and is acting weird in the bathroom with his big purse...... and people here are worried about political correctness of saying "oriental" or "Asian"??????

How about "lawbreaker"?

There are a few very important self-appointed people who patrol this site who seem to be responsible for the following :

1] Determining if a Topic is worthy of being posted " Relevancy " and ........

2] Political Correctness : [ Their " Expert Last Word " on what is not PC ]

This is why I pointed out that what is Politically Correct is not always so clear and there- fore not necessarily Politically Incorrect --- that is unless one hails from the
local distribution geography of The Washington Post . In which case they are automatically PC in all matters . And the " final word " on what is PC .
Just don`t tell it to my good friend from Montreal who happens to be Black but carries a French surname that he is " African-Canadian ". :beer3:

Taltarzac725
05-08-2014, 09:27 PM
There are a few very important self-appointed people who patrol this site who seem to be responsible for the following :

1] Determining if a Topic is worthy of being posted " Relevancy " and ........

2] Political Correctness : [ Their " Expert Last Word " on what is not PC ]

This is why I pointed out that what is Politically Correct is not always so clear and there- fore not necessarily Politically Incorrect --- that is unless one hails from the
local distribution geography of The Washington Post . In which case they are automatically PC in all matters . And the " final word " on what is PC .
Just don`t tell it to my good friend from Montreal who happens to be Black but carries a French surname that he is " African-Canadian ". :beer3:

I do think people get carried away with this kind of stuff. There are boundaries that should not be crossed but these are usually very well known by most people by the age of ten or so.


The movie theaters I frequented when I lived in Palm Harbor had video surveillance on the audiences which I am pretty sure was taped and kept for a certain amount of time. You could see the recording cameras in various corners facing the audiences.

I wonder if the Villages' theaters have these surveillance cameras on the audiences? If they do, then they probably know about this man and whether or not he makes a habit of smoking at the Villages' theaters.

Groups of teens would often frequent these Palm Harbor and Oldsmar movie theaters on Friday and Saturday nights so it is understandable that they would tape audiences or want to make them think they were being videotaped. Big brother does not always have to carry a big stick.

Bogie Shooter
05-08-2014, 09:27 PM
I do not think this is THAT important a matter. If it is a habit of this person to hide his addiction to smoking by finding a dark Villages' theater, then he probably would cause a problem as he was as far as I know lighting up cigarettes in a dark movie theater. He had picked a seat very far away from anyone else. I had been rather late to the movie theater and had not even noticed the person two seats down from me until he sat up when the previews started. I had thought again that this was an African American woman with a very short hair cut. There is a slight fire danger from this habit, especially since movie theaters do not have ash trays or something else like this which provide a safe place to deposit ashes and the like.

My reason for posting this thread was mainly to make people aware that there is, at least, one person who smokes cigarettes in Villages' theaters. I am hoping that the Old Mill Playhouse people see this thread.

And, what then would they do?

Taltarzac725
05-08-2014, 09:31 PM
And, what then would they do?

Look for evidence of his smoking like cell phone and/or video surveillance-- if he was actually smoking tobacco which is illegal-- and then simply ask him to leave the theater and warn him that he cannot smoke at Villages' theaters. Then, if he is caught doing so, contact the police.

Average Guy
05-09-2014, 04:58 AM
Look for evidence of his smoking like cell phone and/or video surveillance-- if he was actually smoking tobacco which is illegal-- and then simply ask him to leave the theater and warn him that he cannot smoke at Villages' theaters. Then, if he is caught doing so, contact the police.

This thread has me scratching my head.

You observed someone smoking in the theater but did not report him, yet you want someone else to report him if they see him smoking. Why not just report him yourself and not have to rely on someone else reporting him?

Taltarzac725
05-09-2014, 06:14 AM
This thread has me scratching my head.

You observed someone smoking in the theater but did not report him, yet you want someone else to report him if they see him smoking. Why not just report him yourself and not have to rely on someone else reporting him?


One-- I am not sure he was smoking tobacco. He might have had an e-cigarette. http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/senators-warn-carcinogen-risk-cigarettes-23641802 http://youtu.be/U81x8t2iMhw

Two-- He was the only person sitting near me so he would know I turned him in to the management. I do not like creating personal grudge matches unless there is nothing else to do.

Three-- I do not have a problem with smokers. Live and let live unless the second hand smoke starts getting into my lungs. Of course, I would have had a huge problem if he started a fire as I was the only person sitting behind him and would have needed to get past the fire. There's no exit at the top the auditorium. At least not in Auditorium 5 which is where they play 3-D movies at the Old Mill Playhouse.

I wanted to alert the Old Mill Playhouse management and audience members on TOTV about this person as it would seem if he likes movies and has a smoking addiction he has done this before and will probably do it again unless he reads TOTV and knows people are looking for his smoking.

Four-- if they have video surveillance in the Old Mill Playhouse then alerting them about this would I hope make them look at the recordings so they would have evidence of this person's smoking. They could then refuse him entry into the movie theater if he smoked tobacco.

Five-- I went there to see The Amazing Spider Man II and not to get embroiled in some kind of drama. Reporting this man would have ruined the movie for everyone else in the auditorium especially because of recent events in movie theaters about complaints about the actions of various audience members. I did have a problem with just seeing cigarette smoke in some 3-D scenes where it did not belong. I was very curious about whether or not this happens at other Villages' movie showings.

bluedog103
05-09-2014, 08:19 AM
Don't you think that if this person was smoking you would have smelled something? I'm a former smoker who hates the odor of tobacco smoke. I can detect that stink instantly and from a great distance. I don't think I'm unique in this sensitivity.

Taltarzac725
05-09-2014, 08:26 AM
Don't you think that if this person was smoking you would have smelled something? I'm a former smoker who hates the odor of tobacco smoke. I can detect that stink instantly and from a great distance. I don't think I'm unique in this sensitivity.

Depends on how the air conditioning is flowing. The smoke was going straight up for maybe three feet and then dissipating. It looked like the kind of smoke produced by a cigarette rather than an e-cigarette. At least, as far as the YouTubes I have seen of smoke from e-cigarettes.

I do not have much real life experience with e-cigarettes however as everyone I know who smokes uses tobacco cigarettes, cigars, or pipes.

rubicon
05-09-2014, 08:58 AM
Why is it that we can't stay on task? The issue was someone smoking in a theater? It doesn't matter if it was a cigarette, marijuana or an e-cigarette.
The OP only had to go to management explain that he believed but was not 100% sure that a person near him was smoking and then let management do their job. Management could then determine the facts.

Asian is the PC term

Chi-Town
05-09-2014, 09:52 AM
Be thankful Max Cady wasn't in front of you.

mrsyarbie
05-09-2014, 10:24 AM
I WOULD OF REPORTED IT IMMEADILTY. of COURSE THERE IS NO SMOKING IN THE THEATER

Taltarzac725
05-09-2014, 10:26 AM
Be thankful Max Cady wasn't in front of you.

Now that would have been a situation. Smoking and Cackling - Cape Fear (2/10) Movie CLIP (1991) HD - YouTube (http://youtu.be/M6HxD6sZ-I0)

Taltarzac725
05-09-2014, 10:32 AM
I WOULD OF REPORTED IT IMMEADILTY. of COURSE THERE IS NO SMOKING IN THE THEATER

Some people are confrontational. Others are not. Also remember that as Taltarzac I have quite a presence on the Internet so I do not need any additional enemies or people targeting me in some way.

I am sure if I had complained the smoker probably would have learned my real name especially if this involved smoking tobacco and some kind of misdemeanor arrest or ticket of some kind. I have been a victim advocate of sorts since 1991 and did have some impact (24 nominations to Marquis Who's Who publications between 1992 and 2002) so I pick my battles wisely and this one seem quite trivial in the broader context.

Now if this had been a Max Cady http://youtu.be/M6HxD6sZ-I0 like situation the entire population of that theater showing The Amazing Spider-Man II would have complained to the management.

Taltarzac725
05-09-2014, 10:39 AM
Why is it that we can't stay on task? The issue was someone smoking in a theater? It doesn't matter if it was a cigarette, marijuana or an e-cigarette.
The OP only had to go to management explain that he believed but was not 100% sure that a person near him was smoking and then let management do their job. Management could then determine the facts.

Asian is the PC term

Except I was the only person sitting behind the smoker. I do not like to create a potential enemy unless there is a good reason to do so. And, if the Old Mill Playhouse has video surveillance than that would be all the facts they need for kicking this smoker out of the theaters. Problem solved then for any future members of the audience. I am a progressive thinker. And, this thread should alert the Old Mill Playhouse to this potential problem if they do have tobacco smokers.

Steve9930
05-09-2014, 11:00 AM
I would have reported it to the manger. Its a fire hazard. Not sure of the laws but at least someone would know of the problem. They could then decide whether to take action then or put up no smoking signs. Even now I would let the management know. I'm an ex-smoker and way back when I was younger I don't believe where I lived at the time you were allowed to smoke in a theater because of the possibility of a large group of people and the fire hazard.

Taltarzac725
05-09-2014, 11:03 AM
I would have reported it to the manger. Its a fire hazard. Not sure of the laws but at least someone would know of the problem. They could then decide whether to take action then or put up no smoking signs. Even now I would let the management know. I'm an ex-smoker and way back when I was younger I don't believe where I lived at the time you were allowed to smoke in a theater because of the possibility of a large group of people and the fire hazard.

Thanks for the suggestion. I may do that soon on Facebook. They do have a Facebook page for each of the Villages' movie theaters.

jdsl1998
05-09-2014, 11:47 AM
Even if they are E-cigs...probably not the place for them.

Taltarzac725
05-09-2014, 11:50 AM
Even if they are E-cigs...probably not the place for them.

It does distract from the viewing experience from the smoke coming up between you and the screen if this were an E-cig or maybe about six of them or so. He lit up about every 20 minutes.

Buffalo Jim
05-09-2014, 01:42 PM
Could someone please develop a " Decision Tree " to help many like me better follow and understand the original OP`s issue / message ?

If one has paid for a seat to enjoy an experience in a public exhibition space and another patron is causing concern or distress and most likely breaking a "house rule " or perhaps a Public Ordinance the response is simple : Locate a responsible party from Management and point out the issue and / or change seats .
How could such a decision process be that difficult ?

Buffalo Jim
05-09-2014, 01:52 PM
Why is it that we can't stay on task? The issue was someone smoking in a theater? It doesn't matter if it was a cigarette, marijuana or an e-cigarette.
The OP only had to go to management explain that he believed but was not 100% sure that a person near him was smoking and then let management do their job. Management could then determine the facts.

Asian is the PC term

Who said that " Asian " is the correct PC term ? Where was it officially adopted and decided and when ?

What is the PC term for Black citizens of Canada ? Great Britain ?
I am from an area which has a reservation which spans both sides of the US Border . If " Native American " is the correct term for the inhabitants who live on the US side of a common Reservation is " Native Canadian " the correct term for those who live just North of the US Border which passes through their assigned Lands ?
Please some PC experts ---- help a guy out .

BobnBev
05-09-2014, 02:10 PM
I suppose his large purse could have concealed an AK47 or an UZI.
BTW, I have an "Oriental" rug. Do I have to sell it and get an "Asian"
rug? I want to be PC, you know.:pepper2::pepper2:

ilovetv
05-09-2014, 02:17 PM
Could someone please develop a " Decision Tree " to help many like me better follow and understand the original OP`s issue / message ?

If one has paid for a seat to enjoy an experience in a public exhibition space and another patron is causing concern or distress and most likely breaking a "house rule " or perhaps a Public Ordinance the response is simple : Locate a responsible party from Management and point out the issue and / or change seats .
How could such a decision process be that difficult ?

I sensed from the o.p.'s earlier posts that he feared or wasn't sure whether to fear for retaliation from the guy because the o.p. was the only person near him, up at the top in the seating.

After the Aurora movie theater massacre, at an action movie like the one the o.p. went to see, it is reasonable to be suspicious of a person acting weirdly and nervously while digging in a large purse or tote bag....and chain smoking while nervous and where smoking is prohibited.

The bag could have contained weapons and ammo as the Aurora killer brought into the action movie setting.

Now I'll wait for all the ridiculing "far fetched" claims. But nobody I know ever would have expected massacres like the Aurora theater, nor in classrooms of first graders in an all-american town like Newtown, CT.

Take a look at what the Aurora shooter had at this link. As an earlier poster said, "See something....SAY something".

Aurora gunman carried semi-automatic arsenal to theater - The Denver Post (http://www.denverpost.com/ci_21124763/aurora-gunman-carried-semi-automatic-arsenal-theater)

jblum315
05-09-2014, 02:40 PM
I agree with you except for your use of the word massacre.

Taltarzac725
05-09-2014, 02:43 PM
I sensed from the o.p.'s earlier posts that he feared or wasn't sure whether to fear for retaliation from the guy because the o.p. was the only person near him, up at the top in the seating.

After the Aurora movie theater massacre, at an action movie like the one the o.p. went to see, it is reasonable to be suspicious of a person acting weirdly and nervously while digging in a large purse or tote bag....and chain smoking while nervous and where smoking is prohibited.

The bag could have contained weapons and ammo as the Aurora killer brought into the action movie setting.

Now I'll wait for all the ridiculing "far fetched" claims. But nobody I know ever would have expected massacres like the Aurora theater, nor in classrooms of first graders in an all-american town like Newtown, CT.

Take a look at what the Aurora shooter had at this link. As an earlier poster said, "See something....SAY something".

Aurora gunman carried semi-automatic arsenal to theater - The Denver Post (http://www.denverpost.com/ci_21124763/aurora-gunman-carried-semi-automatic-arsenal-theater)

The guy just was watching the movie and smoking either a cigarette or an e-cigarette. I only saw the huge purse after he got up and also while he was waiting for a toilet stall. The big purse is unusual but I kind of figured he was just someone who worked around Sumter Landing in a night shift of some kind.

My fear about reporting him was mainly that I do not have a big problem with smokers, but many do. And, the Old Mill Playhouse management probably know this man if he is a regular at the theater AND carries a large purse. He was about 160 lbs, maybe 5' 7 or 5' 8", no beard or mustache, very nice short haircut, slim build. Asian-American in appearance. Well dressed, too. Everything matched quite well.

And, it did not ruin my movie going experience. Now going to the management and worrying about what might be the consequences of reporting this person is another story. That probably would have put everyone in the theater at edge. I have never particularly liked causing trouble or making a scene. That's probably why I wanted to go into something involving librarianship and not related to the rough-and-tumble world of being an attorney. Even though there are many areas of law practice which are very dry and which most people would find incredibly boring.

Buffalo Jim
05-09-2014, 04:20 PM
I suppose his large purse could have concealed an AK47 or an UZI.
BTW, I have an "Oriental" rug. Do I have to sell it and get an "Asian"
rug? I want to be PC, you know.:pepper2::pepper2:

The person could have been an agent of an International " Freedom " Movement and the " bag
" could have contained a " Dirty Bomb ".

Or it could have been a " Dry Run " . The smoking may have actually been a " test " as to how " Hardened " the Movie House Security might be !!!!! :beer3:

Taltarzac725
05-10-2014, 06:50 AM
The person could have been an agent of an International " Freedom " Movement and the " bag
" could have contained a " Dirty Bomb ".

Or it could have been a " Dry Run " . The smoking may have actually been a " test " as to how " Hardened " the Movie House Security might be !!!!! :beer3:

I know you are joking.

Probably one in a million experiences in America involve something like the Boston Marathon bombing.

This man probably was sleeping when I came into the movie theater. I never even noticed him until he sat up when the previews started. He was sitting in the 3rd row from the back very middle seat just under the camera. I was in the first row from the back just under the camera.

I believe many avid movie goers sit in their favorite spots when they can. So, the Old Mill Playhouse or other Villages' movie theaters may find him right around those seats.

jnieman
05-10-2014, 07:29 AM
I was in the waiting room at the doctor's office yesterday and the man next to me was smoking an e-cigarette. He chain smoked it. I didn't smell it and the vapor didn't bother me at all. My husband smokes one and when we travel he uses it in the car. No smell. My son has one and his smells like a sweet flavored cigar, I don't like being around it at all.

Taltarzac725
05-10-2014, 07:48 AM
I was in the waiting room at the doctor's office yesterday and the man next to me was smoking an e-cigarette. He chain smoked it. I didn't smell it and the vapor didn't bother me at all. My husband smokes one and when we travel he uses it in the car. No smell. My son has one and his smells like a sweet flavored cigar, I don't like being around it at all.

What does the vapor look like? The 30ish man Wednesday looked to me smoking a cigarette as you saw tell tale smoke from the cigarette and interspersed between this the blow out of smoke from a smoker.

I did not smell anything either however. And, I am quite familiar with the smell of tobacco as some Doggie Doo Run Run regulars smoke. That dog park is very large so I can just get a little distance from the smoke.

I will try to alert Old Mill Playhouse on their Facebook page about this possible smoker-- 30ish, Asian-American, 5' 7" or so, 160 lbs, clean shaven, very nice hair cut and appearing very well groomed and dressed. Also carries a large purse.

I had thought this person was an African-American woman when I first saw just the back of the head. It was only when he got up to leave the theater that from the solid build I could see it was a man. And, I only noticed he was of the Asian ethnicity when I saw the side of his head and body as he was waiting to get into the toilet stall in the men's room.

TVMayor
05-10-2014, 07:58 AM
What does the vapor look like? The 30ish man Wednesday looked to me smoking a cigarette as you saw tell tale smoke from the cigarette and interspersed between this the blow out of smoke from a smoker.

I did not smell anything either however. And, I am quite familiar with the smell of tobacco as some Doggie Doo Run Run regulars smoke. That dog park is very large so I can just get a little distance from the smoke.

I will try to alert Old Mill Playhouse on their Facebook page about this possible smoker-- 30ish, Asian-American, 5' 7" or so, 160 lbs, clean shaven, very nice hair cut and appearing very well groomed and dressed. Also carries a large purse.

I had thought this person was an African-American woman when I first saw just the back of the head. It was only when he got up to leave the theater that from the solid build I could see it was a man. And, I only noticed he was of the Asian ethnicity when I saw the side of his head and body as he was waiting to get into the toilet stall in the men's room.
What if he got tired of watching the movie and went home?

Taltarzac725
05-10-2014, 08:05 AM
What if he got tired of watching the movie and went home?

He watched the whole movie. He left after the trailer for the new X-Men showed up in the end credits. He was smoking every 20 minutes or so through the 2.5 hour movie. I would guess he had about six cigarettes or e-Cigs.

I also wanted to see the entire movie I had paid to see so there was also that problem if I had gone to get the management. I suppose if I had been with a date I would have gone and complained to the management especially if this date had a problem with second hand smoke and the like. I was alone like the smoker was. All of the rest of the 8 or so theater goers for this Wednesday 1:10 P.M. May 7, 2014 showing of The Amazing Spider-Man II were nearer the screen in the first section of rows past the entranceway.

jnieman
05-10-2014, 08:08 AM
What does the vapor look like? The 30ish man Wednesday looked to me smoking a cigarette as you saw tell tale smoke from the cigarette and interspersed between this the blow out of smoke from a smoker.

I did not smell anything either however. And, I am quite familiar with the smell of tobacco as some Doggie Doo Run Run regulars smoke. That dog park is very large so I can just get a little distance from the smoke.

I will try to alert Old Mill Playhouse on their Facebook page about this possible smoker-- 30ish, Asian-American, 5' 7" or so, 160 lbs, clean shaven, very nice hair cut and appearing very well groomed and dressed. Also carries a large purse.

I had thought this person was an African-American woman when I first saw just the back of the head. It was only when he got up to leave the theater that from the solid build I could see it was a man. And, I only noticed he was of the Asian ethnicity when I saw the side of his head and body as he was waiting to get into the toilet stall in the men's room.

The vapor at first glance looks like smoke but evaporates quickly and leaves no smell or haze. Normally the e-cigs are black, slim and with a tip. Although my husband's looks just like a real cigarette at first, but then you can tell it's not if you get closer.

Taltarzac725
05-10-2014, 08:14 AM
The vapor at first glance looks like smoke but evaporates quickly and leaves no smell or haze. Normally the e-cigs are black, slim and with a tip. Although my husband's looks just like a real cigarette at first, but then you can tell it's not if you get closer.

Thanks. The Asian-American (or maybe even Asian-Canadian or Asian-French) ;) was probably smoking a cigarette. Or, more precisely, six or so of these.

Taltarzac725
05-10-2014, 11:25 AM
What does the vapor look like? The 30ish man Wednesday looked to me smoking a cigarette as you saw tell tale smoke from the cigarette and interspersed between this the blow out of smoke from a smoker.

I did not smell anything either however. And, I am quite familiar with the smell of tobacco as some Doggie Doo Run Run regulars smoke. That dog park is very large so I can just get a little distance from the smoke.

I will try to alert Old Mill Playhouse on their Facebook page about this possible smoker-- 30ish, Asian-American, 5' 7" or so, 160 lbs, clean shaven, very nice hair cut and appearing very well groomed and dressed. Also carries a large purse.

I had thought this person was an African-American woman when I first saw just the back of the head. It was only when he got up to leave the theater that from the solid build I could see it was a man. And, I only noticed he was of the Asian ethnicity when I saw the side of his head and body as he was waiting to get into the toilet stall in the men's room.


I just posted a note on Facebook to the Old Mill Playhouse about my experience with the smoker.

Bogie Shooter
05-10-2014, 12:20 PM
The explanation should now be complete.

scarecrow1
05-10-2014, 01:44 PM
I would have approached the smoker and reminded him/her of the rules. If the smoking continued, I would have reported it to the manager.

I think you have to be careful in movie theaters in Florida now a days. Just saying.

Taltarzac725
05-10-2014, 02:04 PM
I think you have to be careful in movie theaters in Florida now a days. Just saying.

I agree. You probably have to be more careful in many places now. Even in the Villages.

Taltarzac725
05-10-2014, 02:06 PM
I just posted a note on Facebook to the Old Mill Playhouse about my experience with the smoker.

They did not keep it up on their Facebook page at the Old Mill Playhouse but that is fine by me. :posting: