Motor Scooter on the paths?

[fred53]

Not sure if it's new or not, but I've seen a few people who ride motorized scooters/mopeds on the multi-use trails here in TV. Is it legal? Anyone know?

Thanks.

[pqrstar]

Not sure if it's new or not, but I've seen a few people who ride motorized scooters/mopeds on the multi-use trails here in TV. Is it legal? Anyone know?

Thanks.


SHARE THE PATH MEMO FROM HUMAN RESOURCES NEWSLETTER 11/2014

http://www.districtgov.org/departments/Human-Resources/11-2014-NL.pdf


"Who is allowed to use the multi-modal paths throughout The Villages?

This is a question that the District receives on a regular basis.

The multi-modal paths are for use by NON-AUTOMOTIVE, nonvehicular traffic such as bicycles, golf carts, pedestrians, and skaters.

It is not legal, nor is it smart to drive vehicles such as smart cars, motorcycles, or mopeds on any of the multimodal paths in The Villages."

[njbchbum]

http://www.districtgov.org/community/Multi-Modal-Memo.pdf

[Biker Dog]

SHARE THE PATH MEMO FROM HUMAN RESOURCES NEWSLETTER 11/2014

http://www.districtgov.org/departments/Human-Resources/11-2014-NL.pdf


"Who is allowed to use the multi-modal paths throughout The Villages?

This is a question that the District receives on a regular basis.

The multi-modal paths are for use by NON-AUTOMOTIVE, nonvehicular traffic such as bicycles, golf carts, pedestrians, and skaters.

It is not legal, nor is it smart to drive vehicles such as smart cars, motorcycles, or mopeds on any of the multimodal paths in The Villages."

That being said, street legal carts should not be aload on the multi-model paths either.

[mulligan]

That being said, street legal carts should not be aload on the multi-model paths either.

By definition in FL law, they are excluded. If it is capable of exceeding 20mph, it is no longer a golf cart, it is an LSV.

[alzjr]

There are about 50,000 golf carts in The Villages, how many do you think are LSVs, maybe 100? Are they really a problem? Some regular carts have bee clocked at close to 30 MPH. Much bigger problem.

[Lovey2]

There are about 50,000 golf carts in The Villages, how many do you think are LSVs, maybe 100? Are they really a problem? Some regular carts have bee clocked at close to 30 MPH. Much bigger problem.
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[fred53]

Both alzjr and Lovey2 ignore the fact that it's illegal. I wasn't looking for reasons why something "should" be okay to do, but if they should be. I know there will always be people with opposing opinions and while it's their right to present them it is of no use to anyone.

Thanks to all who answered the question. It is very helpful.

[tomwed]

Both alzjr and Lovey2 ignore the fact that it's illegal. I wasn't looking for reasons why something "should" be okay to do, but if they should be. I know there will always be people with opposing opinions and while it's their right to present them it is of no use to anyone.

Thanks to all who answered the question. It is very helpful.
I enjoy reading opinions. That's how I learn. I find them useful. Speak for yourself.

[Penguin]

Another example of "self entitlement" rearing its ugly head here in the Villages. If its written that its illegal than its illegal. Some folks still think that if they deem it acceptable then its ok.

[mulligan]

There are about 50,000 golf carts in The Villages, how many do you think are LSVs, maybe 100? Are they really a problem? Some regular carts have bee clocked at close to 30 MPH. Much bigger problem.

Has nothing to do with OP's question.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I might be mistaken, but I believe that there is a class of motor scooter that does not require a drivers license and is legal on the multi modal paths.

It could be electric scooters and scooter under 50cc.

I'm not sure, but I've seen something about this somewhere.

[red tail]

I don't mind sharing the paths with lsvs, they have many more safety features than a golf cart. particularly the 4 wheel hydraulic brakes and an emergency brake. furthermore there are roads like bv and others that are not safe to be on at certain times. so if an lsv comes onto the path for a while that's ok with me.

[Topspinmo]

This has come up several times before and I think before 2010 or 11 you could ride scooters done the trail. (scooter 50CC or more, with speeds up to 60MPH, MOpeds 49CC or less single speed with limited speed up to 35 MPH.
So, when you say scooter it goes a lot faster and has multi speed gearbox in most cases. when you say Moped it's CC's and speed limited. JUST like LSV.


It's illegal to run through stop sign also, but see it every day. So, we allow certain LSV's on paths but not Mopeds. I would say that I would NOT want be on BV or MB on 49cc scooter with Single speed gears that will verily break 25 MPH either. Also no way to get to squares if you live on the other side of the major road without going on 466A,44A, or 466 on moped.

IMO It's OK for Golfer's to speed going down the paths to and from there all important tee times, but don't let a card carrying paying person ride little bitty moped down the path that get over 100MPG. Mopeds are not the same as motorcycle just like golf carts are the same as LSV. I guess could buy mini bike or ORV and drive merrily down the trail. They need to take the multi out of the multi-M-Trails cause the restrict personnel transportation.

This is not the place to change any rules, I sure somebody knows who to call or go to try to get it heard before board. If enough go and be heard and explain the difference between Moped, scooter, and Motorcycles something might happen (I dough it).

[TheVillageChicken]

SHARE THE PATH MEMO FROM HUMAN RESOURCES NEWSLETTER 11/2014

http://www.districtgov.org/departments/Human-Resources/11-2014-NL.pdf


"Who is allowed to use the multi-modal paths throughout The Villages?

This is a question that the District receives on a regular basis.

The multi-modal paths are for use by NON-AUTOMOTIVE, nonvehicular traffic such as bicycles, golf carts, pedestrians, and skaters.

It is not legal, nor is it smart to drive vehicles such as smart cars, motorcycles, or mopeds on any of the multimodal paths in The Villages."

It may be illegal, but it appears that there is no way to enforce the "law", (http://www.districtgov.org/community/multi-modal-memo.pdf)so I guess anything goes. I've been here a year now, and so far this issue remains close to last place on my peeve list. In order to move up, a lot of dogs need to develop agoraphobia, a lot of ladies need to stop scowling when I use the word, "Ma'am", line dancing must fall out of fashion, golfers need to start respecting the course, and someone has to start serving a decent gumbo around here.

[justjim]

I have no dog in this fight as I don't own any type moped or scooter.... But having traveled the trails for over eight years by golf cart I can say this with confidence. If you took off all the golf cars on the trail that exceed 20mph, you would have less than half of em' left to travel on the trails. That's a fact.

We can call them golf carts but they really aren't. And that's a fact.

My point is---they are a 4 wheel vehicle mode of transportation and even 20mph is too fast and considered unsafe on a golf course.

OP, technically they are illegal but probably not enforced on the trails just like over half of the so called golf carts.

[NotGolfer]

We have a street legal and we've been passed by "regular" un-licensed golf-carts before. Not our problem....especially if they get ticketed!

[TomW]

I have an LSV and two 49cc scooters which are legal on our multi-modal trails and they have excellent brakes. None of my vehicles can keep pace with a standard Yamaha golf cart with the governor pushed all the way up (average 35mph per TV mechanics.) I overheard a guy at the pickleball courts yesterday saying his Yamaha cart can do 42 mph as verified by his GPS. These vehicles have brakes designed to slow carts running 12mph. Maybe the new engine braking systems can stop them a few feet sooner. I don't know about that. A golf cart running between 30-40mph also screws up the perspective of autos turning right across the golf cart lanes since they close the distance much faster than expected.

[Wandatime]

It may be illegal, but it appears that there is no way to enforce the "law", (http://www.districtgov.org/community/multi-modal-memo.pdf)so I guess anything goes. I've been here a year now, and so far this issue remains close to last place on my peeve list. In order to move up, a lot of dogs need to develop agoraphobia, a lot of ladies need to stop scowling when I use the word, "Ma'am", line dancing must fall out of fashion, golfers need to start respecting the course, and someone has to start serving a decent gumbo around here.

I can help with the gumbo.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I have an LSV and two 49cc scooters which are legal on our multi-modal trails and they have excellent brakes. None of my vehicles can keep pace with a standard Yamaha golf cart with the governor pushed all the way up (average 35mph per TV mechanics.) I overheard a guy at the pickleball courts yesterday saying his Yamaha cart can do 42 mph as verified by his GPS. These vehicles have brakes designed to slow carts running 12mph. Maybe the new engine braking systems can stop them a few feet sooner. I don't know about that. A golf cart running between 30-40mph also screws up the perspective of autos turning right across the golf cart lanes since they close the distance much faster than expected.


Are LSVs required to have a better braking system than standard golf carts?

[tomwed]

It may be illegal, but it appears that there is no way to enforce the "law", (http://www.districtgov.org/community/multi-modal-memo.pdf)so I guess anything goes. I've been here a year now, and so far this issue remains close to last place on my peeve list. In order to move up, a lot of dogs need to develop agoraphobia, a lot of ladies need to stop scowling when I use the word, "Ma'am", line dancing must fall out of fashion, golfers need to start respecting the course, and someone has to start serving a decent gumbo around here.
It's not important but I wrote a satirical reply post about your peeves that was deleted. It started out "You have no right wanting my dog to be afraid of Al Gore!" and it rapidly went down hill. I don't mind getting cut for "not funny." I do that myself sometimes.

[graciegirl]

THEY say park your scooter.


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“It is not legal…nor is it smart…to drive vehicles such as smart cars, motorcycles, or mopeds on any of the multi-modal paths in The Villages,” according to the District Office.
To read a memo from District Counsel regarding the use of multi-modal paths, follow the link below:
Village Community Development Districts (http://www.districtgov.org/PdfView/PdfView.aspx?path=’/PdfUpload/Multi-Modal%20Memo%20-%20Valerie%20Fuchs.pdf’&ql=standard)

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[Walter123]

Nothing should be allowed on the multi-modal that can exceed 20mph and that includes fast woman!

[Topspinmo]

Multi mogul not proper name, should be speeding golfer lanes anybody else beware!:cus:


As for mopeds don't effect me my moped soup-up just like the golf carts and can break 50MPH with 3 hp motor. Any golf carts want to drag race?:pepper2: