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TNLAKEPANDA
12-10-2014, 08:14 AM
Over $6 Billion paid in error to Child Tax Credits! That's a lot of money and this is only one of their many screw ups. It's your money. You should be outraged. :swear:

graciegirl
12-10-2014, 08:29 AM
I still am not over their political targeting. The IRS. It is supposed to be a lot of bean counters, not a political espionage unit.


What in the world is happening to this country?

AND when something "unpleasant" happens, another news crisis is brought up.

I always wonder....WHY, at this time, is this or that scab picked?

If you control CNN you control the minds of the world it seems. I used to respect that News network.



I know, I just hijacked your thread. Sorry. Back to the IRS.

TheVillageChicken
12-10-2014, 08:34 AM
The IRS also sent $43 million in refunds to 29,000 different names at the same address in Atlanta. (http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/itin.asp)

fred53
12-10-2014, 08:36 AM
Over $6 Billion paid in error to Child Tax Credits! That's a lot of money and this is only one of their many screw ups. It's your money. You should be outraged. :swear:

what do you expect me to do about it? Getting all worked up never solved anything...it does(in some cases)bring on anxiety and other medical problems.

In lieu of posting here write your congressman.

Walter123
12-10-2014, 08:56 AM
It's frustrating because we are helpless. We do what they say when they say it.

As another poster said...

"What in the world is happening to this country?"

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
12-10-2014, 09:02 AM
Here is the solution to a lot of the problems. Too bad the politicians will never let it happen. It takes power and control away from them.

home - FairTax.org (http://fairtax.org/)

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
12-10-2014, 09:05 AM
The IRS also sent $43 million in refunds to 29,000 different names at the same address in Atlanta. (http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/itin.asp)

Probably a very big apartment building.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
12-10-2014, 09:11 AM
from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they here, gave the last full measure of devotion – that we here highly resolve these dead shall not have died in vain; that the nation, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

Too bad everyone didn't listen to Lincoln.

dewilson58
12-10-2014, 10:58 AM
Shoot, once again I didn't get a check.

TNLAKEPANDA
12-10-2014, 11:12 AM
Here is the solution to a lot of the problems. Too bad the politicians will never let it happen. It takes power and control away from them.

home - FairTax.org (http://fairtax.org/)

That would be the best thing that could ever happen in this country. Although it might cost retired people more depending on their tax bracket I am still all in if only we could make it happen.

JB in TV
12-10-2014, 11:26 AM
Here is the solution to a lot of the problems. Too bad the politicians will never let it happen. It takes power and control away from them.

home - FairTax.org (http://fairtax.org/)

I've read about this on and off over the years, and agree it is a great idea on the surface... however, as other have said, it will never happen. Can you imagine the unemployement of all the accountants, tax preparers and IRS agents? It would hurt the economy, big time. :22yikes:

Jim 9922
12-10-2014, 03:19 PM
Stumble, bumble, dribble and fail. Another example of government workers' incompetence. Same for the system: no responsibility, no accountability, no punishment, no terminations and probably promotions and bonuses to all for being able to hush it up for at least 6 months. And of course, excuses, finger pointing in all directions, and the blame game.
Bring the next boondoggle on.:mmmm:

rjm1cc
12-10-2014, 04:30 PM
I sent small dollar amounts to lots of people as rewards and we wrote the software to audit for possible fraud. With the amounts of money the IRS sends out they should have a lot of audit rules in their software that should catch a lot of the fraud.

rubicon
12-10-2014, 04:44 PM
Worse yet 24% of the EBIT credits were paid in error and the government knew it, knows it and uses it as a redistribution scheme:cold:

TNLAKEPANDA
12-10-2014, 05:44 PM
Worse yet 24% of the EBIT credits were paid in error and the government knew it, knows it and uses it as a redistribution scheme:cold:

Things are really bad & very wrong... Pray for Change don't just Hope for it.

LndLocked
12-10-2014, 10:49 PM
I can only assume that the head of the IRS's next job will be Gov of Florida

sunnyatlast
12-11-2014, 12:23 AM
I can only assume that the head of the IRS's next job will be Gov of Florida

Governor is elected. IRS Commissioner is appointed by the President.

Commissioner of Internal Revenue - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commissioner_of_Internal_Revenue)

Average Guy
12-11-2014, 04:26 AM
I sent small dollar amounts to lots of people as rewards and we wrote the software to audit for possible fraud. With the amounts of money the IRS sends out they should have a lot of audit rules in their software that should catch a lot of the fraud.

The IRS did catch the fraud.

Average Guy
12-11-2014, 04:32 AM
Worse yet 24% of the EBIT credits were paid in error and the government knew it, knows it and uses it as a redistribution scheme:cold:

How exactly can you substantiate your claim that the government "uses it as a redistribution scheme?"

graciegirl
12-11-2014, 06:08 AM
How exactly can you substantiate your claim that the government "uses it as a redistribution scheme?"

I think Rubicon was just being a little bit sarcastically funny.

Average Guy
12-11-2014, 07:37 AM
I think Rubicon was just being a little bit sarcastically funny.

I guess we all have different reactions to what is or is not funny.

Sandtrap328
12-11-2014, 10:19 AM
I guess we all have different reactions to what is or is not funny.

...and it was not funny.

graciegirl
12-11-2014, 11:34 AM
...and it was not funny.

Some people use sarcasm and some people use passive aggressive behavior and some people use diversionary tactics when discussing something potentially heated and controversial.

It depends on what you believe and how you perceive things as to whether you think it has humor.

It is very hard on this forum to see faces so as to ascertain a person's current attitude. But after having read what a person thinks and believes over time, you can get a feel for their innate personality.

If you agree with a person's philosophy it is easier to like them and to appreciate their humor. If you don't accept their philosophy or agree with their values and morals and attitudes, there is nothing funny about them. EVER. They just make you discouraged, angry and turned off.

It is sad, that as we get to know each other better, we are more comfortable with some and continually aggravated with others. It seems that politics takes the place of religion as our core intensity as we age.

I am not happy about that, but I see It happening to myself and others. We were better off not knowing them so well...perhaps.

The bottom line is that we all have good things about us. When we disagree we can't see them.

Chi-Town
12-11-2014, 01:07 PM
Some people use sarcasm and some people use passive aggressive behavior and some people use diversionary tactics when discussing something potentially heated and controversial.

It depends on what you believe and how you perceive things as to whether you think it has humor.

It is very hard on this forum to see faces so as to ascertain a person's current attitude. But after having read what a person thinks and believes over time, you can get a feel for their innate personality.

If you agree with a person's philosophy it is easier to like them and to appreciate their humor. If you don't accept their philosophy or agree with their values and morals and attitudes, there is nothing funny about them. EVER. They just make you discouraged, angry and turned off.

It is sad, that as we get to know each other better, we are more comfortable with some and continually aggravated with others. It seems that politics takes the place of religion as our core intensity as we age.

I am not happy about that, but I see It happening to myself and others. We were better off not knowing them so well...perhaps.

The bottom line is that we all have good things about us. When we disagree we can't see them.
All the more reason for a political forum. Posters can be so different from their political posts and their non political posts. Sometines it's hard to tell it's the same person.

rubicon
12-11-2014, 01:30 PM
How exactly can you substantiate your claim that the government "uses it as a redistribution scheme?"

Hi Average Guy: the information comes from an article I read in Wall street journal some time back. The article specifically made the point that it was an effort at redistribution. Average Guy were talking about the federal government meaning how can one explain anything when it comes to federal spending programs?

You ask me to substantiate my claim. May I now ask why you believe this information is incorrect? The EBIT is on the agenda to be re-worked next year. Want to bet that the populist party will fight it tooth and nail.

The federal government is too big too rigid too inefficient. it enacts short term spending programs that go on for years and years without anyone monitoring their need or efficacy. ...and you are questioning my statement??????