Bye-Bye Hillary!!!

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She has cancelled her appearances scheduled for this morning.....had to write $6.4 million dollars of personal money again this month....lost NC big (15%) as predicted....won IN by 2% (in essence broke even) when a double digit win was anticipated........she can't get there even if she won landslides in the remaining primaries.....her ONLY GAME/HOPE is to turn the super delegates away from the tally of the people's votes/delegates

I think she is doing some heavy thinking this morning. It will be interesting to see how far she is willing to buck the tide (or is it a tsunami?).

BTK

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Sure would like to see a concentrated front come up soon for a Democratic candidate. All the in fighting between Senator Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton may have put Senator John McCain in the White House in January '09. The Democrats kind of Swift boated their own party. >:(

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:agree: Tal. Time for Obama to take on McCain for an easy victory. :bigthumbsup:

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:agree: Tal. Time for Obama to take on McCain for an easy victory. :bigthumbsup:


Not sure if this will be an easy victory for Senator Obama in the red states. Many of the blue states also may be turned off by the Jeremiah Wright stuff as well as Obama's guns and religion statement.

Think both religion and a reasonable amount of guns as well as the kind of guns are very important to not just the working class. That is coming from someone who grew up in Reno, Nevada where you would often need some kind of proetction when walking in the desert around Reno because of rattlesnakes. We lived about a mile and a half from Rattlesnake Mountain in Reno, Nevada which lived up to its name. Even if I think its name was from what it looked like from the air.

I just had a couple of shotguns and a couple of 22s which was a reasonable amount of guns for that location.

I minored in Religious Studies while at the University of Nevada, Reno so I have been interested in Religions for a long time.

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Not that I would ever again vote for the Democrat party but if Obama indeed does get the nomination it will be an easy victory for the Republicans.

I really don't think this great nation of ours needs a "President in Training" which is what we will get with Obama. This is not a position where you would want to give someone a 90 day evaluation period. ::)

I personally would like to thank all of the people who voted for him ensuring a Republican victory. I'll update this post in late November. ;D

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Puterguru, you're entitled to your opinion, however I really don't think this great nation of ours needs a continuation of the Iraq war, which is what we will get with McCain. Its shameful what the cost of the war has cost us as a nation as far as lives lost and the terrible burden on our economy. Whether or not you like Obama as a candidate, McCain, in my opinion, is an awful choice. Hopefully the rest of America will think the same. ;)

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The most important thing is TO VOTE.

We can disagree until Haedes glacierizes as to the merits, qualifications and abilities of any of the candidates. Thank God and the Founding fathers we have that freedom to do so. I don't know about the rest of y'all, but I've enjoyed the reparte back-and-forth, and am glad to have neighbors with passion about the nation and its future. But, it's nothing but air into the breezes unless we actually vote.

In the end, I have faith in the collective "wisdom" of the voting public. It's worked better than other systems in the world for the past couple centuries.

So, whomever you choose - thanks for taking the time to share your feelings, and please continue sharing clear up to making out that ballot.

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Not that I would ever again vote for the Democrat party but if Obama indeed does get the nomination it will be an easy victory for the Republicans.

Maybe part of the problem with this great nation of ours is the simple fact that people vote the party line rather than for individuals. It has never ceased to amaze me that individuals in a nation created for individuals doesn't matter -- what matters is whether you vote Democrat or Republican or Green or .....

To make such a blanket statement truly saddens me.

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Maybe part of the problem with this great nation of ours is the simple fact that people vote the party line rather than for individuals. It has never ceased to amaze me that individuals in a nation created for individuals doesn't matter -- what matters is whether you vote Democrat or Republican or Green or .....

To make such a blanket statement truly saddens me.

I'd be happy to vote for a Democrat, when a Democrat believes in

The Right to Life
Less Gov Bureaucracy
Tax Cuts
Less Entitlements
Marriage=One Man One Woman
Does Not Believe In "Income Distribution".

I'll stop there. If there is such a Democrat that I don't know about, please somebody let me know.

Thanks!

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Change that saddens to sickens.

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Maybe part of the problem with this great nation of ours is the simple fact that people vote the party line rather than for individuals. It has never ceased to amaze me that individuals in a nation created for individuals doesn't matter -- what matters is whether you vote Democrat or Republican or Green or .....

To make such a blanket statement truly saddens me.


Am I correct in my understanding that they do the same thing in countries like England, France, Germany, Australia, Italy, Greece etc? Then again, they have votes of no confidence and can change things faster and don't need the 2 year campaigns that cost millions of dollars and only create polarization amongst the elected who can't seem to get things done except for the special interests.

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I really don't think this great nation of ours needs a "President in Training" which is what we will get with Obama. This is not a position where you would want to give someone a 90 day evaluation period. ::)



I much prefer that to a President with one foot on a banana peel and one finger on the button. It's just my opinion, and with all due respect, I think you're out of step with the world. We'll see what happens in November. We'll await your update.

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They do, Hancle, and I'm not convinced it is the best way to vote anywhere. I much prefer voting for the person I feel is best for the job (even when their beliefs differ from mine) and not the person my "party" recommends. The vote of no confidence does make it a little more palatable. The fact that the losing party/individual has some powerful seats in Parliament also helps to my mind.

It truly does bother me that people will blindly vote for someone no matter what their qualifications so long as they toe the party line and have the right rhetoric. That's no way to select the leader of the most powerful nation in the world. To refuse to vote for someone because they don't follow your beliefs makes little sense to me. Some of our greatest leaders vetoed bills that truly held to their personal beliefs but were bills that would have harmed this nation. They worked hard to enact legislation that went against their religious beliefs for the simple reason that it was the best law for this country. Sorry, I just don't "get" toeing the party line thing.

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Red, I agree with you most of the time, but not about the party line thing. I agree, it would be nice to vote for people based on what we think of them as individuals. But in our country, generally speaking, the candidates seem to "go along" with the party line most of the time. When you look at some of the legislation that was passed by very narrow margins, most of the time the voting was done along party lines. Its a system where the legislators get on powerful committees and receive other bonuses, such that if they buck the party line, its difficult for them to get the experiences and have the accomplishments which enhance their ability to get re-elected. I certainly wouldn't vote for someone unqualified, simply because they belonged to one party or another, however. And I'm not saying I think this is a good system, but its the way politics operates in Washington at the present time. Now if Obama gets in, maybe he can help change things....he certainly seems motivated.

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Oh, I know it's the way things are done. I just hate it. I've voted Republican (Nixon) when I felt the candidate was the best man for the job. The majority of the time I've vote Democratic. I have not regretted my decisions. I have regretted some of the decisions made by the majority but have accepted that part of the price of living in a democracy is the simple fact that the best person will not always win. (Otherwise, why wasn't Stevenson ever our president?)

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Good posts! Keep it going. We need some posts about McCain. He has a major temper problem and will give us more of Bush's policies.

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Maybe part of the problem with this great nation of ours is the simple fact that people vote the party line rather than for individuals. It has never ceased to amaze me that individuals in a nation created for individuals doesn't matter -- what matters is whether you vote Democrat or Republican or Green or .....

To make such a blanket statement truly saddens me.


:agree: :agree: :agree: :agree:

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JOIN TOGETHER

There are less than eight months until the election, an election that will decide the next President of the United States.

The person elected will be the president of all Americans, not just the Democrats or the Republicans. To show our solidarity as Americans, let's all get together and show each other our support for the candidate of our choice.

It's time that we all came together, Democrats and Republicans alike.

If you support the policies and character of John McCain, please drive with your headlights on during the day.

If you support Obama or Hillary, please drive with your headlights off at night.

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Sorry, wiw, not even remotely funny.

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Red -

I vote for the individual, not the party line - thought someone out there might get a kick out of it

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Red -

I vote for the individual, not the party line - thought someone out there might get a kick out of it

I thought it was HILLARIOUS!

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Sorry, I guess I don't see the humor in basically telling people to die if they don't vote for your candidate. I honestly wouldn't find it funny if the candidates were reversed. To tell someone to drive at night without lights on is a very suicidal suggestion. To me, not funny.

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I thought that was an amusing joke AND I will probably vote for Senator Barack Obama if he is the Democratic candidate in November 2008. Have not found that much information about what John McCain would do if he were elected in 2008 even though I kind of think I am betting on a losing horse and that Senator McCain will wind up winning.

That is unless Senator Barack Obama gets a lot more savvy about his campaigning. He probably will be President of the United States but in 4, 8, or perhaps more years. He is very young for a US Senator.

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You have disappointed me wiw

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Wiwi, I don't see the humor. ??? :agree: with Red. :barf: Very bad taste.

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Red, Chel, Bright

Whoa - I put this in the wrong category - I, like Susan and Tom, do not touch the political forums except this once and I should have posted it in the Just for Fun Forum - my mistake. :dontknow:

Like the "If I Was (were) a Terrorist" video, it is a satirical joke, not a personal political statement.

Thesaurus: a creative work that uses sharp humor to point up the foolishness of a person, institution, or human nature in general.

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I took it as a joke, found it modestly funny.

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wiw -

We must share the same sense of humor. I'm sure you didn't mean it literally - I got a chuckle out of it.

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I totally agree with you Red. I did not find this funny at all.

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Caught the possibility that Senator Hillary Clinton could be running beside Senator Barack Obama as his Vice President. Now that is a combination that might have a very good chance of beating John McCain and his running mate unless he also comes up with a very politically savvy choice of running mates??

Think this was on CNN last night and it was coming from Senator Barack Obama?

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wiw.....

I read the post and laughed immediately. :bigthumbsup:

I guess some voters are getting sensitive as the primary frenzie continues on and on.........and on. Rightfuly so, this elections go round is particularly frustrating and lenghthy.We need a bit of humor at this point.

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wiw:
I also thought your post was hilarious. I'm sorry but I can't remmemer the last time I didn't care who wins. :dontknow: :dontknow:

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wiw: I didn't realize that you had posted this joke and I also posted it as well, only when I received the joke the names were switched.

I, as you, was amused by the joke and chose to share it. Then I received the negative responses such as you did; there are those who must complain!! Fortunately, there were some that responded to you with an appreciation of the intention of a light-hearted JOKE. A joke is a joke is a joke....sheez. I agree with you that the joke is hilarious!!

Have you noticed that there are the same certain few that need to get on their soapbox and preach the "gospel truth" (their opinions)?

Argggghhhh

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This certainly wasn't the worst joke I've ever heard so I let it go. I still think you're a great lady wiw and look forward to meeting you again this summer.

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1rnfl ty livingston...but I don't need your suggestion to do so... 1rnfl

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Sorry you thought my saying a joke was not funny was whining. Not sorry I made a comment about it.

I like wiw a lot. She's a great person, intelligent, fun, kind, generous of spirit. I didn't like her joke. I have a tendency to speak up when I think something is hurtful. Suggesting that people drive at night without lights because of voter preference was harmful to my mind. I'll also speak up if I feel a joke is sexist, prejudicial or just plain mean-spirited. It's the nature of MY beast.

Oh, and wiw ..... HUGS!