She has cancelled her appearances scheduled for this morning.....had to write $6.4 million dollars of personal money again this month....lost NC big (15%) as predicted....won IN by 2% (in essence broke even) when a double digit win was anticipated........she can't get there even if she won landslides in the remaining primaries.....her ONLY GAME/HOPE is to turn the super delegates away from the tally of the people's votes/delegates

I think she is doing some heavy thinking this morning. It will be interesting to see how far she is willing to buck the tide (or is it a tsunami?).

BTK

Sure would like to see a concentrated front come up soon for a Democratic candidate. All the in fighting between Senator Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton may have put Senator John McCain in the White House in January '09. The Democrats kind of Swift boated their own party. >

Tal. Time for Obama to take on McCain for an easy victory. :bigthumbsup:

Originally Posted by chelsea24

Tal. Time for Obama to take on McCain for an easy victory. :bigthumbsup:

Not sure if this will be an easy victory for Senator Obama in the red states. Many of the blue states also may be turned off by the Jeremiah Wright stuff as well as Obama's guns and religion statement.

Think both religion and a reasonable amount of guns as well as the kind of guns are very important to not just the working class. That is coming from someone who grew up in Reno, Nevada where you would often need some kind of proetction when walking in the desert around Reno because of rattlesnakes. We lived about a mile and a half from Rattlesnake Mountain in Reno, Nevada which lived up to its name. Even if I think its name was from what it looked like from the air.

I just had a couple of shotguns and a couple of 22s which was a reasonable amount of guns for that location.

I minored in Religious Studies while at the University of Nevada, Reno so I have been interested in Religions for a long time.

Not that I would ever again vote for the Democrat party but if Obama indeed does get the nomination it will be an easy victory for the Republicans.

I really don't think this great nation of ours needs a "President in Training" which is what we will get with Obama. This is not a position where you would want to give someone a 90 day evaluation period. :

I personally would like to thank all of the people who voted for him ensuring a Republican victory. I'll update this post in late November. ;D

Puterguru, you're entitled to your opinion, however I really don't think this great nation of ours needs a continuation of the Iraq war, which is what we will get with McCain. Its shameful what the cost of the war has cost us as a nation as far as lives lost and the terrible burden on our economy. Whether or not you like Obama as a candidate, McCain, in my opinion, is an awful choice. Hopefully the rest of America will think the same.

The most important thing is TO VOTE.

We can disagree until Haedes glacierizes as to the merits, qualifications and abilities of any of the candidates. Thank God and the Founding fathers we have that freedom to do so. I don't know about the rest of y'all, but I've enjoyed the reparte back-and-forth, and am glad to have neighbors with passion about the nation and its future. But, it's nothing but air into the breezes unless we actually vote.

In the end, I have faith in the collective "wisdom" of the voting public. It's worked better than other systems in the world for the past couple centuries.

So, whomever you choose - thanks for taking the time to share your feelings, and please continue sharing clear up to making out that ballot.

Originally Posted by Puterguru

Not that I would ever again vote for the Democrat party but if Obama indeed does get the nomination it will be an easy victory for the Republicans.

Maybe part of the problem with this great nation of ours is the simple fact that people vote the party line rather than for individuals. It has never ceased to amaze me that individuals in a nation created for individuals doesn't matter -- what matters is whether you vote Democrat or Republican or Green or .....

To make such a blanket statement truly saddens me.

Originally Posted by redwitch

Maybe part of the problem with this great nation of ours is the simple fact that people vote the party line rather than for individuals. It has never ceased to amaze me that individuals in a nation created for individuals doesn't matter -- what matters is whether you vote Democrat or Republican or Green or .....

To make such a blanket statement truly saddens me.

I'd be happy to vote for a Democrat, when a Democrat believes in

The Right to Life
Less Gov Bureaucracy
Tax Cuts
Less Entitlements
Marriage=One Man One Woman
Does Not Believe In "Income Distribution".

I'll stop there. If there is such a Democrat that I don't know about, please somebody let me know.

Thanks!

Change that saddens to sickens.

Originally Posted by redwitch

Maybe part of the problem with this great nation of ours is the simple fact that people vote the party line rather than for individuals. It has never ceased to amaze me that individuals in a nation created for individuals doesn't matter -- what matters is whether you vote Democrat or Republican or Green or .....

To make such a blanket statement truly saddens me.

Am I correct in my understanding that they do the same thing in countries like England, France, Germany, Australia, Italy, Greece etc? Then again, they have votes of no confidence and can change things faster and don't need the 2 year campaigns that cost millions of dollars and only create polarization amongst the elected who can't seem to get things done except for the special interests.

Originally Posted by Puterguru

I really don't think this great nation of ours needs a "President in Training" which is what we will get with Obama. This is not a position where you would want to give someone a 90 day evaluation period. :

I much prefer that to a President with one foot on a banana peel and one finger on the button. It's just my opinion, and with all due respect, I think you're out of step with the world. We'll see what happens in November. We'll await your update.

They do, Hancle, and I'm not convinced it is the best way to vote anywhere. I much prefer voting for the person I feel is best for the job (even when their beliefs differ from mine) and not the person my "party" recommends. The vote of no confidence does make it a little more palatable. The fact that the losing party/individual has some powerful seats in Parliament also helps to my mind.

It truly does bother me that people will blindly vote for someone no matter what their qualifications so long as they toe the party line and have the right rhetoric. That's no way to select the leader of the most powerful nation in the world. To refuse to vote for someone because they don't follow your beliefs makes little sense to me. Some of our greatest leaders vetoed bills that truly held to their personal beliefs but were bills that would have harmed this nation. They worked hard to enact legislation that went against their religious beliefs for the simple reason that it was the best law for this country. Sorry, I just don't "get" toeing the party line thing.

Red, I agree with you most of the time, but not about the party line thing. I agree, it would be nice to vote for people based on what we think of them as individuals. But in our country, generally speaking, the candidates seem to "go along" with the party line most of the time. When you look at some of the legislation that was passed by very narrow margins, most of the time the voting was done along party lines. Its a system where the legislators get on powerful committees and receive other bonuses, such that if they buck the party line, its difficult for them to get the experiences and have the accomplishments which enhance their ability to get re-elected. I certainly wouldn't vote for someone unqualified, simply because they belonged to one party or another, however. And I'm not saying I think this is a good system, but its the way politics operates in Washington at the present time. Now if Obama gets in, maybe he can help change things....he certainly seems motivated.

Oh, I know it's the way things are done. I just hate it. I've voted Republican (Nixon) when I felt the candidate was the best man for the job. The majority of the time I've vote Democratic. I have not regretted my decisions. I have regretted some of the decisions made by the majority but have accepted that part of the price of living in a democracy is the simple fact that the best person will not always win. (Otherwise, why wasn't Stevenson ever our president?)